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The reality is, it's a very calculated gamble.
It's potentially an absolute steal.

If he was avaliable to us on this deal, we'd have been foolish to turn it down.

Obviously I hope he gets the bad aids now, but it's still a risk worth taking and there's no point on trying to paint it any other way
 
The reality is, it's a very calculated gamble.
It's potentially an absolute steal.

If he was avaliable to us on this deal, we'd have been foolish to turn it down.

Obviously I hope he gets the bad aids now, but it's still a risk worth taking and there's no point on trying to paint it any other way


They have the money and it looks like they are planning for trying to win the league either this season or next. Hope he fails miserably.
 
What has it got to do with then? He's a club legend alright, why wouldn't they want him to stay. Reading between the lines there they aren't reliant on him and he's not going to get as many games as he might want.

There has to be some sort of decline in performance or fitness because the old schweinsteiger was one of the best.

Think Gerrard. Most clubs tend to be very respectful to their 'legends' and letting them go for free, or not asking for an exorbitant fee, is part and parcel of that.
 
The reality is, it's a very calculated gamble.
It's potentially an absolute steal.

If he was avaliable to us on this deal, we'd have been foolish to turn it down.

Obviously I hope he gets the bad aids now, but it's still a risk worth taking and there's no point on trying to paint it any other way

With wages as high as about € 200k per week (as speculated in Germany) he's not exactly a bargain.

In his prime he was probably second to few but now he's injury-ridden and not half the player he used to be.

I think/hope they got it wrong again. Falcao mk2.
 
Yep, that was my point.
He hasnt had an injury free season since 10/11.
Started 15 league games last season and only half of the 108 games while Guardiola has been in charge.

Calculated risk? Yeah, for Utd it probably is as they're on another level to us financially.
For us I highley doubt it would be.

Great player but will he be fit, will he adapt and how do they shoehorn him and Carrick in the same role.
Maybe they see him and Carrick being fit 50/50 of the time.

He's also Germanys captain and will play all the international games.
His ankles and knees are pretty fucked already.
Hoping for Falcao mk II
 
Think Gerrard. Most clubs tend to be very respectful to their 'legends' and letting them go for free, or not asking for an exorbitant fee, is part and parcel of that.


I totally understand that in many cases loyal servants get to leave for reasonable fees, but you said you think it has nothing to do with a 'perceived decline' in the player. So I was asking why this situation has reached the point where a club legend is actually leaving if there is no decline?

He has missed 50 games in 2 seasons, there's a definite decline, they don't need him any more and I doubt he wants a struggle to reach the first 11 at his age. If he was the same player he was 5 years ago this wouldn't be happening, that was my point.
 
I totally understand that in many cases loyal servants get to leave for reasonable fees, but you said you think it has nothing to do with a 'perceived decline' in the player. So I was asking why this situation has reached the point where a club legend is actually leaving if there is no decline?

He has missed 50 games in 2 seasons, there's a definite decline, they don't need him any more and I doubt he wants a struggle to reach the first 11 at his age. If he was the same player he was 5 years ago this wouldn't be happening, that was my point.
Age and his injury record I guess, rather than a decline in his performances - that doesn't seem to be substantiated by his scoring/assists/performances. Possibly akin in some ways to Sturridge who isn't in decline per se but whose injuries make him a real concern. A club like Bayern will have no problems finding a class replacement so can afford to pay him due respect.
 
I imagine they're going to move Rooney back to the 9 role now.

You'd think they'll advance Herrera forward of the central mid role he had, and maybe allow Di Maria to go a bit more central too. Looks to me like they've reversed the problem of last year when they had Rooney, RVP, Falcao and Wilson all competing for 1 or 2 forward roles with zero decent midfielders behind them.

This year they've got 4 top class central midfielders and no strikers.

Unless they're gonna go and buy one I suppose.

They get Benzema or someone like that and they'll really challenge.
 
IMO they still have an issue at CB. I wouldn't want to be pinning my hopes on Smalling and Jones.

Rest of the squad looks ominous though.
 
Begovic to Chelsea to waste the rest of his career.
No doubt he'll be made up to earn a packet whilst playing 4 cup games all season.
 
Begovic to Chelsea to waste the rest of his career.
No doubt he'll be made up to earn a packet whilst playing 4 cup games all season.


To be fair to him, he wasn't going to win anything at Stoke either. Doesn't seem like anyone else was in for him, should have moved a couple of years ago.
 
To be fair to him, he wasn't going to win anything at Stoke either. Doesn't seem like anyone else was in for him, should have moved a couple of years ago.

Well he probably won't play enough matches to get a PL medal if they win it again and he won't be entrusted to big CL matches so that's FAC and LC ..... if you are happy enough with that then so be it. A pay rise and to experience (though not participate in) the CL and other big matches is probably the extent of his ambition, that and praying for Courtios to break a leg !
 
Well he probably won't play enough matches to get a PL medal if they win it again and he won't be entrusted to big CL matches so that's FAC and LC ..... if you are happy enough with that then so be it. A pay rise and to experience (though not participate in) the CL and other big matches is probably the extent of his ambition, that and praying for Courtios to break a leg !


To him it probably looked like he had missed his big moves where he would have been the first choice keeper and his future lay at Stoke or similar clubs. I can see why he did it, Glen Johnsons face says all you need to know about how it feels to play there.
 
Ha ha ! Poor Glenjo.

I've no idea why he chose Stoke. Surely he could have got a bumper pay day and some sun fun in Turkey or the Middle East.
 
R.I.P Begovic's career. Now a bench warmer forever more. Confirmed. Shame, I'd have had him over Mignolet.
 
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