It's confidence, isn't it? He just looks like everything he does is effortless. Like a Van Dijk in the midfield.
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He's world class ... there, I said it.
Yes. Confidence, belief, self-assurance. Call it what you will, but it's also the confidence Arne had in him to unlock it out of him.
Made me raise something else
The blinds… to see if there was any sunlight yet?
We're gaining sunlight at rapid pace now that we're past the solstice!
Virgil van Dijk said he might celebrate making 300 appearances for Liverpoolwith one glass of red wine. “Just me and my wife, but that’s it,” said the club captain, whose family were present at Anfield to witness the proud moment along with a mismatch against Ipswich. Van Dijk did not want to reflect on past achievements after Liverpool’s latest win, only on what the rest of the season might hold, and made a point of toasting Ryan Gravenberch’s contribution to an outstanding campaign. The midfielder may not have been stretched by Ipswich’s passive approach but his consistent form and role in Arne Slot’s system encapsulate the impact the Dutch coach has had. Gravenberch has started every Premier League and Champions League game this season and has become, in Van Dijk’s words, “vital” to what Liverpool hope to achieve. “The way he approaches the game on and off the pitch is key to being a world-class player,” said the defender. “In my eyes, the consistency he’s been showing, he’s definitely a world-class player and he can only become better. He’s been almost flawless throughout the whole season.” Andy Hunter
The Guardina’s 10 things from the weekend.
The Guardina’s 10 things from the weekend.
Depends how (un)reasonable you want to be.
Transfermarkt has it right maybe 70% of the time. It doesn't really factor in rapid rises.
I'd say he's easily worth double what we paid, maybe 70-80m.
Do I see anyone at this moment paying that for him? No.
They'll be excited about letting go of another high value player for free in a couple of years.
Whatever Bellingham is supposed to be worth plus 25m
His value should be higher than any of Enzo, Rice, Caicedo. You absolutely LOVE to see it.
All aboard the Gravy Train, and its chief conductor @MomoWASright
All aboard the Gravy Train, and its chief conductor @MomoWASright
Is it just me that reads "you love to see it" and immediately transposes Dantes onto the poster/post?
yeah transfer market that great pricing thing - Gravy is now an 85M+ player (GBP)
CHOO FUCKING CHOO
This is the thing none of you seem to want to acknowledge - as much as Pep G is a system coach, Klopp was the ultimate abuser of midfielders in his entire coaching career. Even if Gravy had a pre-season it would have made no difference under Klopp - he would have made him run around and press for the ball all game and just hand it over to any of the front 3 or pass back/sideways. You see the player in training all day - yet by the end of the season most of us fans had not got a clue what use we had for Gravy - such was the poor use of him last season.
What bullshit. The difference between him last year and this year is one year. He had barely played before he arrived to us. He was young and adjusting to a less mature team, that was all new in midfield around him.
And slot is doing with szobo and gravy exactly what klopp did and would do, running their fucking legs off. That's modern football.
You see how markets work in this evil corrupt world of capitalism is that if noone is paying that at the moment then he is not worth that. Everyone and everything is worth what the market will pay for it.
Sorry you are talking shit, go see Arsenal away game last season on how Klopp used him. Then watch Klopp completely have a melt down coz the Gravey experiment went wrong. No midfielder, either his past omes at Dortmund or any he had at Liverpool wanted to play for Klopp, they would rather go somewhere else unless they were non-baller midfielders whow knew they had a good thing at LFC.
Your last point would have merit had we seen Klopp try to, and succeed, in signing his old strikers, defenders and goalkeepers to Liverpool, while failing to do so with his ex-midfielders. Fabinho was played very similarly to how Grav is being played now. Why was Fabinho not running around at 100mph all around the pitch throughout games? Because he was our number 6, as is Grav. As Fark correctly points out, our other two midfielders today are made to work just as hard as Klopp’s midfielders.
Klopp did not have a meltdown. A meltdown is what you’re having in this thread.
The biggest change in terms of how midfielders are played is szobo, who obviously gets more time in the box, and has been told he should score more.
He's scored about 1 in 10. It's clear that when we have all the possession in the world that's not good enough at all. On the eye, his eye for a goal has been just been poor and he's been oddly passive for how much time he's got in the box, making wrong decisions, preferring to give it to Salah, etc. We are just now seeing more out of him again. The best since his injury.
He's also not a mature player though, and while the last couple games seem to offer hope, but so did his first many. He should mature into a better player. Slot could and should get credit for that, but let's say he really becomes a beast. That's how a young player often pays off; not immediately, in fits and starts. They mature.
It wouldn't therefore mean klopp missed anything with him, either.
He's scored about 1 in 10. It's clear that when we have all the possession in the world that's not good enough at all. On the eye, his eye for a goal has been just been poor and he's been oddly passive for how much time he's got in the box, making wrong decisions, preferring to give it to Salah, etc. We are just now seeing more out of him again. The best since his injury.
He's also not a mature player though, and while the last couple games seem to offer hope, but so did his first many. He should mature into a better player. Slot could and should get credit for that, but let's say he really becomes a beast. That's how a young player often pays off; not immediately, in fits and starts. They mature.
It wouldn't therefore mean klopp missed anything with him, either.
Ditto Gravy.
Never tried that, is it as good as Onion Gravy?
You can't buy it in Europe or North America. Asia only I'm afraid.
