Other forum meltdown watch 24/25

[Farkmaster]

Arteta is quite good at rationalizing and contextualizing failure, it's because of all the practice.

This time though, I'm not so sure. Which one is it, "over my dead body" or "we are actually punching above our weight to be where we are."

 

[MomoWASright]

Who's leaving this summer? Sounds juicy

Zinchenko, Partey and Jorginho

 

[MomoWASright]

Apparently they've not scored from a set piece since december. He's no doubt hiding in the back

They’ve scored 1 since Saka got injured. I’m sure I read that in the last few weeks. They haven’t scored by any method since.

 

[Squiggles]

I'm sure Arsenal justified the overspend on Rice with the classic "he's the final piece of the jigsaw" line. Now, as they near the end, they're realising the box was missing half the pieces all along.

 

[mwake]

I'm sure Arsenal justified the overspend on Rice with the classic "he's the final piece of the jigsaw" line. Now, as they near the end, they're realising the box was missing half the pieces all along.

£105 million for Rice OR £129.2 million for the combined transfer fees for Alexis Mac Allister, Dominik Szoboszlai, and Ryan Gravenberch. When Arsenal push the lucky Liverpool narrative I direct them to this fact. You make your own luck on and off the pitch.

 

[Farkmaster]

I was very happy for them to spend like 160 mil on havertz and rice at the time. I thought rice was only a marginal functional improvement on xhaka, and I still think that.

They haven't identified what needs they have that would be transformative. They haven't bought awful players, but they have bought unnecessary ones.

 

[binomial]

Arsenal got taken to the cleaners for Rice, moreso than they did for Pepe...who for a brief spell actually looked like a 70m winger.

Does all the basics well enough but no 1 part of his game stands out and no amount of media dick sucking will convince me otherwise.

 

[Brizzle]

Yep they bought at the top of his value, you love to see it. With the right players around him he's a v. good player but he's not 100m worthy

 

[keniget]

I guess the argument was that Rice didn't need to be worth 110M if they win the league... which has some merit.

Havertz wasn't necessarily a terrible signing from a sporting perspective but the 65M fee made it one. They let Chelsea off the hook there.

Anyways, any team would struggle losing their main source of goals and creativity so it's a little unfair to judge them too harshly this season. They will still finish 2nd / 3rd... it's a tough league!

They will have to buy goals in the summer and as we know, easier said than done.

 

[Brizzle]

Has this been posted? It's brilliant


View: https://x.com/NoContext_FanTv/status/1895208114045292777

 

[LarryHagman]

Arsenal got taken to the cleaners for Rice, moreso than they did for Pepe...who for a brief spell actually looked like a 70m winger.

Does all the basics well enough but no 1 part of his game stands out and no amount of media dick sucking will convince me otherwise.

Bollocks. Rice isn't worth £100M but at least he's a good player. Pepe was pure dog shit. He wasn't worth 100 pence.

 

[mwake]

Was even Prime Henderson (the player Rice wishes he was) worth 100m at any point?

Prime Henderson was an important part of our team and was a very good player...but can't see Madrid or Barcelona knocking on our door with 100m for Henderson at the time.

I think Macalister, Slobo and gravy are all levels above prime Henderson already technical wise.

Rice has regressed this season.

 

[rubans]

I think we all felt if they lost Saka, they would lose their atttack. This is what has happened.
They are now lost their 4 attackers in a matter of months. Havertz,Jesus, Saka and Martinelli. Similar thing happened when we lost our defenders 20/21, it can often give the balance of whole side. Not a fan Arse but they have been unlucky with that number if injuries in short amount of time.

 

[doctor_mac]

Bollocks. Rice isn't worth £100M but at least he's a good player. Pepe was pure dog shit. He wasn't worth 100 pence.

100% this. Rice is an excellent midfielder that would grace most teams in world footy and really did improve them. Arsenal are still a very good team, they dominate most teams in this league and Rice is a big part of that. The comparison with Pepe is nonsensical.

 

[SummerOnions]

Was even Prime Henderson (the player Rice wishes he was) worth 100m at any point?

Prime Henderson was an important part of our team and was a very good player...but can't see Madrid or Barcelona knocking on our door with 100m for Henderson at the time.

I think Macalister, Slobo and gravy are all levels above prime Henderson already technical wise.

Rice has regressed this season.

Hendo was to me always one of those players who was in the right place and the right time and was clearly somehow performing way above the actual talent he had through hard work and the right team/manager around him. See also Wijnaldum, possibly even Mane. One of those reasons why most players we sell are shit elsewhere, with the likes of Alonso, Suarez, Mascherano being world class exceptions

 

[Fabio]

100% this. Rice is an excellent midfielder that would grace most teams in world footy and really did improve them. Arsenal are still a very good team, they dominate most teams in this league and Rice is a big part of that. The comparison with Pepe is nonsensical.

The problem I have with rice and his pricetag, is that as that cost they should be a transformative influence, and he just isn't.

Virgil and Ali absolutely transformed us so those fees made sense.

Rice is a very good midfielder; but are they actually dramatically better for the 110m? He's just a more consistent, less hot headed Xhaka.

Perhaps I've been spoiled my getting value for players more often than not

 

[Fabio]

As a comparison, Rice has 1 goal and 5 assists this year. Macca has 3 goals and 3 assists. I know we had a good deal, but 70m difference? Really?

 

[doctor_mac]

As a comparison, Rice has 1 goal and 5 assists this year. Macca has 3 goals and 3 assists. I know we had a good deal, but 70m difference? Really?

I didn't mention the fee, because that's not the player's fault, and he has the traditional English premium. We know we stole Macca by activating a release clause so again, the price comparison is massively skewed. Rice is also much more about controlling a midfield rather than goals and assists. You should be comparing him with Gravy, who has 0 goals and 2 assists. I'm not saying I would have forked out 100m on him, but I will repeat, the comparison with Pepe, bought for over 70m and who was totally shite, is ludicrous.

 

[the count]

I didn't mention the fee, because that's not the player's fault, and he has the traditional English premium. We know we stole Macca by activating a release clause so again, the price comparison is massively skewed. Rice is also much more about controlling a midfield rather than goals and assists. You should be comparing him with Gravy, who has 0 goals and 2 assists. I'm not saying I would have forked out 100m on him, but I will repeat, the comparison with Pepe, bought for over 70m and who was totally shite, is ludicrous.

I read elsewhere and have no idea of it's validity but apparently we enquired about buying Macca the season before we actually did and he was very keen on the move. So when he signed a new contract with Brighton the low ball release clause was included on the basis that it was likely that Liverpool were coming back for him the following summer. When other clubs started sniffing around they were told that there was already a gentleman's agreement in place for him to go to Liverpool.

 

[tombrown]

Rice is just a big pudding

 

[Fabio]

I didn't mention the fee, because that's not the player's fault, and he has the traditional English premium. We know we stole Macca by activating a release clause so again, the price comparison is massively skewed. Rice is also much more about controlling a midfield rather than goals and assists. You should be comparing him with Gravy, who has 0 goals and 2 assists. I'm not saying I would have forked out 100m on him, but I will repeat, the comparison with Pepe, bought for over 70m and who was totally shite, is ludicrous

Slight disagreement as rice still bombs up and is involved in a decent amount of attacking play, and takes a lot of set pieces, so I thought Macca was a reasonable comparison. Add in gravy is absolutely the base of the midfield, whereas partey or jorginho is the base of their mid.

I agree the price tag isn't the player's fault, but it also shouldnt be discounted when discussing the merits of a player. 110m with a capable teams hands could have been used dramatically more effectively across multiple positions. Realistically they could have (and for me, should have) used the money better. Especially when you consider they were bidding against city, it seemed more of a dick swinging contest by the end than sensible transfer decisions

 

[the count]

Rice is just a big pudding

He should have went to Bayern and then there could have been a Muller - Rice combo

 

[Dreambeliever]

View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGpViABzaAI/?igsh=YWgwenJqNjI5YjYx

 

[Beamrider]

View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGpViABzaAI/?igsh=YWgwenJqNjI5YjYx

Can't deny it can he? Suck it up, bitch.

 

[SummerOnions]

Rice is just a big pudding

He's got a thick skin though

 

[Judge Jules]

I read elsewhere and have no idea of it's validity but apparently we enquired about buying Macca the season before we actually did and he was very keen on the move. So when he signed a new contract with Brighton the low ball release clause was included on the basis that it was likely that Liverpool were coming back for him the following summer. When other clubs started sniffing around they were told that there was already a gentleman's agreement in place for him to go to Liverpool.

I can believe it. When the deal did go through there were more references in the media to how keen he was to come. As I've said elsewhere, it leads me to hope that he might not be especially keen on a move to Spain if that possibility were to materialise.

 

[Athens]

He should have went to Bayern and then there could have been a Muller - Rice combo

Imagine the pilau-ver over who would take the corners?

I can't believe this is the second time this year (I think) that I've made a muller corner joke.

 

[Judge Jules]

And neither of them has featured chocolate balls.

 

[Roopy]

Arsenal had a striker that they sold to Monaco - Mika Biereth.

In 10 games for Monaco - he has 10 goals including 3 hattricks 😀

 

[MomoWASright]

Tee fucking hee.

Arsenal Mania at about 80 minutes onwards.

24 attempts 8 on target and no goals while having lot of on form players is incredible luck by slot

Whole tie could rest on that heel being offside and the decision not to give a red

Salah didn't even try with that pass, saw it was Nunez and just "fu3k sake" and just gave it away and got back in his defensive position 🤣

We would be crucified for this performance.

Liverpool shaming the league here.

The Premier League Champions 2025 are getting asswhooped ffs. lets bring on Real en then Pool.

The Boy does The Boy stuff

FFS LIVERPOOL **** OFF

Holy s**t what a smash and grab with this would be for Liverpool

How lucky can a team get?

No freaking way!!

Nah. What kind of witchcraft is this?

liverpool are winning the prem and UCL now aren't they?

Scouse Gollum scored

This is ridiculous hahahaha

About to put my life savings into Liverpool winning it all, this season is some kind of divine intervention jfc

First shot on target. Of course. They are the luckiest side I have ever seen. It is undeniable

One of the biggest robberies I’ve seen in years
This is like Wenger vs Mourinho back in days. We were missing thousand of chances and these guys just go score lmao.

Easily. Such a jammy club it's unreal. This is a full on robbery.

Liverpool is riding some insane luck this season

PSG had a perfectly good goal ruled out for offside. I'm not having someone's calf being offside.

Slothluck

Reminds me of us in some games eg West Ham where we have all the play and lose to the only shot the opposition have.

Certainly have not seen many that one sided. Liverpool barely crossed the half way line. Complete robbery.

What a bunch of d!ckheads PSG are.

I didn't even watch the match and I'm triggered by how they let Liverpool steal a win like that.

Pathetic.

The amount of luck Liverpool has had this season is unbelievable.