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A great game - Sunderland played well but what can you say.... We have the best player in league. Welcome back to the PL Suarez!

Yes - welcome back Suarez. A few more performances like this and maybe the hurting will stop.. 😛
 
A bit late but I'll add my thoughts:
  • Does the loss of one (two if you count Coutinho) really necessitate a complete formation change as Rodgers was intimating? It feels like we're using it as more of an opportunity to give our abundance of centre-backs game time.
  • Hollywood balls and aimless punts into the box. Are they being instructed to do this or are they just really really thick? I can't decide. 3-5-2 can work, but you have to use your wing-backs to get in behind the defence and yet rather than try and combine with the midfielders / attackers to create space and / or overload the opposition defence, Enrique and Henderson generally preferred to stop and hoof in a cross. We surrendered possession way too easily but going for glory / playing the percentages too often. Very very frustrating.
  • Henderson, as we all know, simply doesn't belong on the wing. Sterling, in his brief appearances at RB, has actually looked pretty capable. I'd have rather seen him start there. Enrique... *sigh*
  • The legend of Kolo grows...
  • Moses looks pretty average. He grew in stature in the second half and produced a few good moments but overall pretty poor. If he continues in this vein I'd much rather see one of our players get the opportunity to run into groups of defenders and lose the ball.
  • Sky Sports are really determined to make this SaS thing stick, aren't they? Embarrassing.
  • Towards the end of last season I said that the biggest Rodgers decision would have to make in the summer would be what to do with Joe Allen because his team needs a playmaker. Whether he decided to stick with what he's got or didn't recognize it to be a priority decision - he got it badly wrong. Our midfield was bad enough last season and now it looks even worse.
  • Gerrard has been so amazing for so long... I don't really want to remember him like this.
  • Oncey was right about Mignolet palming shots back out after getting loads of stick. Bad mistake and though he looks to be a great shot stopper he needs to prove that he can cut out the errors to be considered a top keeper. Not quite there yet. Amazing save in the first half though.
  • We reacted well to conceding, which was nice to see. Rather than retreating even further into our shells we actually stepped up and took control of the game. Again, makes you wonder why we were sitting back so much to begin with - is it on Rodgers instructions? Frustrating because we just give the opposition confidence.
  • Sakho looks good. Bit ungainly at times, which may be why some think he's a bit ropey but have high hopes. Looks strong and composed.
Great to get the 3 points but another questionable performance. It'd be nice to see an improvement in that respect against Palace.
 
@keniget,
I agree about the formation change. I don't think it's doing us any favours, especially if Moses is in the #10 role.
 
@keniget,
I agree about the formation change. I don't think it's doing us any favours, especially if Moses is in the #10 role.

It's very odd because he is patently unsuited to playing in that position and if Rodgers didn't know it before than surely must now.

We may as well just go for a straight 4-4-2 in the next game seeing as Lucas is out and there isn't really anyone to replace him - we're pretty short on midfielders considering we generally play with three, aren't we?
 
It's very odd because he is patently unsuited to playing in that position and if Rodgers didn't know it before than surely must now.

We may as well just go for a straight 4-4-2 in the next game seeing as Lucas is out and there isn't really anyone to replace him - we're pretty short on midfielders considering we generally play with three, aren't we?

Unless Joe Allen (who I rate) comes back from the dead.

Gerrard and Henderson with Moses on the left, Sterling on the right should be fine.
 
I actually thought Hendo did ok on the right... He was always providing an option when we went forwards and he was dependable at the back. You can't ask for much more from the guy! I'm starting to really rate him as a player.
 
Another vote from me to try Sterling at RB/right wing-back if need be. Generally when I've seen him he's put a shift in and isn't afraid of a tackle.
 
I actually thought Hendo did ok on the right... He was always providing an option when we went forwards and he was dependable at the back. You can't ask for much more from the guy! I'm starting to really rate him as a player.

He'd also make a fucking great rb imo.

He's an extremely proficient player with an incredible engine. Whether he can be a great player is another question, & I think it will depend a lot on whether he can find a position in our cm where he can perform as a box to box midfielder like he does for England u21s whilst stevie is still in the side.
 
McLaughlin really must get a chance at RB soon, he's ready.

This has me perplexed.
We have been shoehorning centre halves and right mids into the right back spot when there seems to be a bona fide right back just waiting for the chance.
I can't understand how he hasn't got a look in, even if it was in the league cup, to see how he would get on.
 
After watching the match and being quite pleased with the commitment and concentration we showed I have now, after reading the preceding posts; decided to revise my view.

We play the wrong formation, our Manager doesn't know what he's doing and relies on dumb luck, our GK, DM and RB were and are shite; our first goal was sheer luck, Sunderland were denied a famous victory because of poor fortune, Gerrard is shot, Moses is average and Allen is zzzzzzzzzzzz

I can't bear to think how we can cope if we drop to say 3rd place. I'm genuinely fearful.
 
I actually thought Hendo did ok on the right... He was always providing an option when we went forwards and he was dependable at the back. You can't ask for much more from the guy! I'm starting to really rate him as a player.

I was a fan of Jordan when it wasn't particularly fashionable to do so but I was disappointed in him yesterday as he seem to have contracted a touch of the superstu's what with his pointless crossing and failing to get it past the defender.
Sure he showed well for it and worked really hard but that is the best parts of his game.
He got himself into a few great positions and received the ball completely unmarked deep into the Sunderland half on a couple of occasions
A more confident/clinical player would have at least drove forward and worked the keeper or opposing defense.
Not a popular opinion but I would like to have seen what Aspas would have done with the space and time Jordan got in, those positions
 
After watching the match and being quite pleased with the commitment and concentration we showed I have now, after reading the preceding posts; decided to revise my view.

We play the wrong formation, our Manager doesn't know what he's doing and relies on dumb luck, our GK, DM and RB were and are shite; our first goal was sheer luck, Sunderland were denied a famous victory because of poor fortune, Gerrard is shot, Moses is average and Allen is zzzzzzzzzzzz

I can't bear to think how we can cope if we drop to say 3rd place. I'm genuinely fearful.
Is that Sarcasm? I'm not sure......
 
So I'm the only one who think Mignolet did nothing wrong re the goal? As Skrtel jumped/dived over it and he saw it late?

Regardless Ming is ace.
 
It isn't so much that he did something wrong IMO. It's just that a keeper of the absolute highest class might still have stopped it.

That said, I think Mignolet can get there. There are other aspects of our play which are far higher priorities for improvement.
 
Ming has been great since we got him but he did look a bit flaky yesterday. I'd have expected him to push that ball round the post rather than into oncoming traffic... but he made two top saves (one with his legs from close range in the first half and the other immediately after they scored where he got down dead quick and pushed it wide) and I'm sure he's gonna be a top player for us for years.
 
It isn't so much that he did something wrong IMO. It's just that a keeper of the absolute highest class might still have stopped it.

That said, I think Mignolet can get there. There are other aspects of our play which are far higher priorities for improvement.

Good point. Thankfully he looks very strong mentally and just gets on with it rather than playing bad the rest of the game.
He looked more and more confident and commanding as the game went on imho. Maybe he was a bit nervous about going back to Sunderland for the first time.
He's still "young" for a goalkeeper.
 
It was a reaction save Hansern, which to me means the ball could go anywhere, as he's just doing anything to keep it out. Any keeper would tell you that, so you aren't alone. You're right - he seems to be a mentally strong keeper.
 
I actually thought Hendo did ok on the right... He was always providing an option when we went forwards and he was dependable at the back. You can't ask for much more from the guy! I'm starting to really rate him as a player.

He was absolutely abysmal ! Failed in 9/10 crosses to beat the first bank of defenders and constantly gave the ball away / lost it.
 
This has me perplexed.
We have been shoehorning centre halves and right mids into the right back spot when there seems to be a bona fide right back just waiting for the chance.
I can't understand how he hasn't got a look in, even if it was in the league cup, to see how he would get on.

I forget who said it the other day though, one of the lads here who watches all the youngsters games, that McLaughlin isn't physically ready. Slight lad who needs to bulk up for a defender.
 
It was a reaction save Hansern, which to me means the ball could go anywhere, as he's just doing anything to keep it out. Any keeper would tell you that, so you aren't alone. You're right - he seems to be a mentally strong keeper.

Have you heard him being interviewed? He comes across as a very mature and impressive young man. He also speaks better English than most of our English players. 😀
 
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Decent squad, that. A tough selection problem, but I'd go for:

------------------------------------------------------------Lady-Boy---------------------------------------------------

Fag-------------------Queer-------------------------------------------------------Tranny--------------------Poof

-------------------------------------------------------------Dyke-------------------------------------------------------

------Bender-------------------------------------------Princess------------------------------------------------Lezzer

------------------------------------------------------------Midget---------------------------------------------------------

--------------------------------------------------------Knob Jockey------------------------------------------------------


Lady-Boy can be relied on to look after himself. Queer and Tranny would need to help each other out throughout the game. Fag and Poof would be given licence to push up hard and fast whenever they see an opening. Dyke will patrol just outside the area cutting out passes and generally looking for trouble. In the absence of the suspended prick, Lezzer will be able to relax and come inside whilst Bender will be available to help out at dead ball situations and get things moving again. The great thing about Midget is that he can be relied on to see things quickly and join in as Knob Jockey makes his movements.



Subs: Arsehole, Clit, Pansy and Wang.


Manager: Brendan Rodgers.
Sorry if I'm quiffing but is that list really real? That's fucking hilarious! I have no idea what a 'spic' or a 'nip' is although I am aware of the terms. I often say I'm off down the Chinky's for some grub never thinking it might be derogatory (I might have to change this as my wife is from a Chinese background! Ooops 😳) And is it really bad to call someone a 'Gypsy'? And 'Pikey' - That's just what they are right? 😉
 
Mingolet speaks five languages and hold a science degree. Well, according to the lizard commenting on sky sports.
 
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