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How will we set up against Palace ?

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Whilst Skrtel is playing out of his skin (or maybe more likely, back to his old self of being a complete fucking CB destroyer) I don't think Agger will come back in as Toure too is playing v well and BR will want to continue playing Sakho who also had a v good game against Sunderland.
 
I think Cissokho just returned to full training.

Good to know - I wonder who said that he is out.. I'm sure its in the Enrique thread somewhere.. Great news to get another option on the left..
 
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Crystal Palace set-up

Their set up has its foundation on the double pivot in midfield of Kagisho Dikgacoi & Mile Jedinak . Dikgacoi is the player more likely to step forward out of midfield with the captain Jedinak more dispossed to covering behind. Whilst Holloway played an expansive attacking game with Blackpool, he has become more pragmatic with Crystal Palace. Two weeks ago he said that in 2008 he went to Liberty Stadium to watch a few games and that " .....Swansea changed how I see the whole of football ". However, he was asked if a solid defence was the best starting point for a successful campaign with Holloway replying tellingly that: " I think it is for this group. We actually got promoted by being hard to beat, hard to break down and then counter attacking ".

Palace have not generally played with 2 out-and-out wide players . Their favoured channel of attack is down the right. The right back has generally been between Joel Ward or Mariappa with Ward having the more attacking tendancies with Mariappa being more defensively minded.. On the right of midfield is Jason Puncheon who is on loan from Southampton. The stats show that Palace favour the right and even more so when playing away. If there is a break away, our left side is likely to be busier.

The only natural left sided player, Jerome Thomas, has only started one game with Holloway putting either Barry Bannon or Jose Campana on this side, both of whom are more suited to a central role. This is perhaps a conservative move to retain balance i.e. 3 central midfielders in midfield with 1 more attacking wide player and 2 strikers.

Holloway has largely started with 2 center-forwards in each game so far with Dwight Gayle and Chamakh starting most of the games together. Its not a natural 1-upfront-with-1-off but they will take it turns to alternate with Chamakh more likely to come deeper in order to allow Gayle use his pace against the last man.

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Style of play

Whilst Holloway admits that its a counter-attacking set up, his team do not immediately look to go from back-to-front straight away. He still retains a belief in his players to play football and, unfortunately for him, it has cost him on more than 1 occassion due to the quality of player in the team.Their captain, Mile Jedinak is a 6'2 defensive midfielder and considered one of their best players. Only 3 other midfielders have made more tackles than him this season with Lucas being one of those. He is the player most likely to get on the ball for Palace in deep areas but with a pass success rate this season of just 76%, its not ideal to be giving away 1 pass in every 4 on average. He is currently getting up to speed with the Premiership but largely at fault for 2 goals recently. However, it is reflective of Holloway's patience with trying to play some football and not just insisting on players taking the safest option and smashing it up the pitch with his captain trying to lead by example.

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In the graphic above, Jedinak plays a stray pass despite being under little pressure. Young collects the ball and drives at goal with Dikgacoi fouling him and the referee contentiously awarding a penalty and sending off Dikgacoi.


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In this screen shot, Clyne has attempted to play a one-two but the return ball is very poor and puts Jedinak in control of the situation. However, he is ponderous in getting to the ball and looks like he is weighing up what he will do with the ball when he controls it. But, Southampton work very hard to win the ball back and Clyne races for the poorly returned ball and gets there ahead of a Jedinak. Ultimately, the ball springs forward to a Southampton player and they get the ball into Osvaldo who scores the opener. Both situations are reflective of a team that look to play some football but can make quite a few unforced errors especially if put under pressure.


Palace's weaknesses

The in-game graphic below is a chance that Southampton created with poor tracking from Jedinak.

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1st screenshot: Palace have fallen into a flat line of 4 in midfield with Gayle & Chamakh ahead. Nothing to see here except to note their shape.

2nd screenshot: Adam Lallana has darted off Moxey who had initally made the move to track him but has now stopped. At the same time, Schneiderlin has continued his run through Dikgacoi & Jedinak and is moving into the space in the left back area vacated by Lallana dragging Moxey out. In a midfield double pivot, one would move out and the other would fill the space. Dikgacoi is holding his position to face Lallana if he receives it. However, Jedinak has not read the danger of Schneiderlin's run. There is little excuse for this as the run and the space are in his line of sight.

3rd screenshot: The ball finds Schneiderlin after a flick on from Lambert and his header is cleared off the line. Note though how poorly he was tracked and the distance between him and Jedinak.




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Great piece. Palace should be walked over. Early goal and they will fall apart!
 
Tbf I'm more interested in how we'll line up against Newcastle or West Brom, that is after the international break.

-----------------------Mignolet

---------Touré--------Skrtel-------Sakho

Johnson-----------------------------------------Enrique

---------------Gerrard--------Lucas

-----------------------Coutinho

---------------Sturridge-----------Suarez

Blows load....
 
I've said it time and time again.
Against Palace? With three at the back?
I'd play McLaughlin. Would barely be any pressure on him.
I'd love to see him given a chance but I'd be surprised if Rodgers gave him the nod over Kelly.
 
Rodgers needs to learn from the Southampton game and just select the most natural team and formation, without trying to be too clever. Palace is so bad, they don't deserve any special tactical traps - and against a team like that being too clever can only backfire - that was Rafa's mistake on many occasions. Just replace Lucas with Henderson, sacrifice one CB for an attacker (that's a must, otherwise with Palace sitting back we'll be watching our 3 CBs passing the ball amongst themselves while their teammates in attack are grossly outnumbered - this could be a very frustrating game if Rodgers makes this mistake), move Moses to the wing where he belongs and choose between Sterling and Aspas to play on the opposite flank from Moses.
 
Rodgers needs to learn from the Southampton game and just select the most natural team and formation, without trying to be too clever. Palace is so bad, they don't deserve any special tactical traps - and against a team like that being too clever can only backfire - that was Rafa's mistake on many occasions. Just replace Lucas with Henderson, sacrifice one CB for an attacker (that's a must, otherwise with Palace sitting back we'll be watching our 3 CBs passing the ball amongst themselves while their teammates in attack are grossly outnumbered - this could be a very frustrating game if Rodgers makes this mistake), move Moses to the wing where he belongs and choose between Sterling and Aspas to play on the opposite flank from Moses.

Exactly, play 4-3-3 and go at them. This team will be sitting back coming for a draw and we need to destroy them. We should be looking for at least 3 goals.
 
---------------------Mignolet----------------

--------Toure-----Skrtel------Sakho-------

Kelly -----Gerrard----Hendo-----Enrique

-------------------Luis Alberto---------------

--------------Sturridge----Suarez----------


I'd give Alberto a game to see how he does against a lower side such as Palace....
 
Bib theory suggests that we will play three at the back, Skrtel, Toure and Sakho, with Sterling coming in for Lucas but presumably taking Henderson's spot on the right who would in turn move into the middle.

That said Adam Morgan was wearing a "playing bib" as well so who knows.
 
Bib theory suggests that we will play three at the back, Skrtel, Toure and Sakho, with Sterling coming in for Lucas but presumably taking Henderson's spot on the right who would in turn move into the middle.

That said Adam Morgan was wearing a "playing bib" as well so who knows.

He took my job!
 
Bib theory suggests that we will play three at the back, Skrtel, Toure and Sakho, with Sterling coming in for Lucas but presumably taking Henderson's spot on the right who would in turn move into the middle.

That said Adam Morgan was wearing a "playing bib" as well so who knows.

I'd take this team (minus Adam Morgan), I think Sterling did very well at RWB last weekend.
 
If we're serious about top four, we want to be giving this lot a right spanking at home. Goal difference might be crucial at the end of the season - it'll be tight.
 
Bib theory suggests that we will play three at the back, Skrtel, Toure and Sakho, with Sterling coming in for Lucas but presumably taking Henderson's spot on the right who would in turn move into the middle.

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For a muppet you are quite astute dumb - I like hate your theory and I hope it never happens. Thicko Count.
 
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