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Rub of the Green with Mason and Webb

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Screw Cissokho, put Alberto on, Aspas, maybe even Touré. WTF is he doing playing an untried kid against Chelsea away, when we're down 2-1???
There's absolutely no logic in that. Doesn't surprise me that people are defending that shite from Brendan.

He did this last year a lot ... It's what we've done in the past, and we found gems like this. Smith had a poor debut (played out of position too it seemed - I'm not sure why he didn't go to a 3-5-2 to utilize 'magic' and Smith as WBs) but I bet if it was McLaughlin in the same position, your tune would be very very different. These gambles play off sometimes. Sometimes they don't. We didn't get a result today - but it has very little to do with Smith ...
 
He did this last year a lot ... It's what we've done in the past, and we found gems like this. Smith had a poor debut (played out of position too it seemed - I'm not sure why he didn't go to a 3-5-2 to utilize 'magic' and Smith as WBs) but I bet if it was McLaughlin in the same position, your tune would be very very different. These gambles play off sometimes. Sometimes they don't. We didn't get a result today - but it has very little to do with Smith ...

I'm not saying that it was Smith's fault but he got the basics wrong.
McLaughlin is better and it's more likely that he would have done better. You do remember that he was up against Totti 2 years ago and did pretty well?
 
We were not 'poor' - we were playing against a team who were playing their BEST GAME OF THE SEASON and who's top 3 purchases cost more than our whole team probably. We held our own, created chances and limited them to what 3 good scoring opportunities. We weren't that bad. Sure, we didn't do as well as we did against City but that's because City didn't work has hard defensively as Chelsea.

Agreed. I think too many have unrealistic expectations given where our squad is now versus where it is when it's fully fit, and that versus the squad depth of our rivals. I was angry after Arsenal, Hull, Everton, but not after the last two games. The players (bar Johnson, and a couple of shite fringe options (summer spending is a different argument that won't help us now)) have given everything this month, I think you can't ask for more. We needed help (ie. the right fucking calls, only asking to do their job!) from officials and got none.

Some of the hyperbole after our two hardest games of the season is ridiculous.
 
Smith is not ready. What an abysmal performance, don't fucking care if he's a kid.
If he's a kid put him in the reserves where he belongs.
Cissokho would have been a better option.

Jesus Christ he was shit.
Wrong thread.

Poor post as well.
 
Well we've had plenty of good luck up until now, it had to bite us back at some point.
 
I'm not saying that it was Smith's fault but he got the basics wrong.
McLaughlin is better and it's more likely that he would have done better. You do remember that he was up against Totti 2 years ago and did pretty well?

Ha ha ... a 35 year old attacking midfielder not known for any of his defensive work in a preseason game vs Chelsea? Smith is on the bench by merit. McLaughlin isn't there because he's not done enough to impress the coaching stuff ... he may have done better, he may not have ... I'm not blasting ROdgers' decision because I like that - it makes kids a) want to work harder to show him they're capable and b) want to sign for Liverpool because they are given chances ...
 
Agreed. I think too many have unrealistic expectations given where our squad is now versus where it is when it's fully fit, and that versus the squad depth of our rivals. I was angry after Arsenal, Hull, Everton, but not after the last two games. The players (bar Johnson, and a couple of shite fringe options (summer spending is a different argument that won't help us now)) have given everything this month, I think you can't ask for more. We needed help (ie. the right fucking calls, only asking to do their job!) from officials and got none.

Some of the hyperbole after our two hardest games of the season is ridiculous.

Excellent post mate.
 
Ha ha ... a 35 year old attacking midfielder not known for any of his defensive work in a preseason game vs Chelsea? Smith is on the bench by merit. McLaughlin isn't there because he's not done enough to impress the coaching stuff ... he may have done better, he may not have ... I'm not blasting ROdgers' decision because I like that - it makes kids a) want to work harder to show him they're capable and b) want to sign for Liverpool because they are given chances ...

Yeah he showed it today.
 
Yeah he showed it today.

You're just being a WUM mate ... I'm not in the mood for it ... Some kids don't start off with a bang, some do ... He may be excellent one day, he may never amount to anything. To get on his case, when he's actually gotten to our 1st team bench unlike your favorite FB of choice (who I think will get a chance this year too ... or at least I hope) is stupid. Let's just moan about Agger instead. We all know he's the reason for the last two results being shite.
 
Yah, I guess it's a good point. Can we have it back in 2014 please Ross?

The reality is nobody would have been terribly unhappy if at the start of the season someone had guaranteed them we'd be right in the thick of the CL race and only a few points off top at the half way stage.
 
The reality is nobody would have been terribly unhappy if at the start of the season someone had guaranteed them we'd be right in the thick of the CL race and only a few points off top at the half way stage.

I concur with this post too ... I think we've been unlucky the last two games, but I'm very happy where we are ... We just need to get healthy, get 2-3 very good 1st 11 type quality players and get back to our winning ways. The league is wide open - great year for Liverpool ... Let's hope for a better 2014
 
Most would have taken this after 19 games before the start of the season. That said, we desperatly need to add to the squad and get the transfers right.
 
Ok. Well, seeing as you seem to trade in football cliches, here are some suggestions for future posts:

"It's a funny old game"

"It's a game of two halves"

"He's got good feet for a big lad"

"Every game is a cup final now"

"They're too good to go down"

Hope this helps you out.


You seem far too stressed.
 
You can never really predict how a debut will go, if he's played well all week in training, done it in the reserves and is knocking on the door of the first team, then needs must. If we want to get him in the team then he had to play at some point, it could have gone swimmingly and people would have said it was genius. Nerves got the better of him, shit happens.
Yeah I know that. I'm just telling it like I see it. He was very poor and obviously not ready. That's not me having a pop btw - These things happen. Johnson though was a fucking disgrace. Anyway I'm done moaning. There were lots of positives. Sterling for example looked very good.
 
As I wrote on Thursday - the level of refs in the PL is just terrible.
On Thursday it was the Atkinson horror show and Mason's poor refereeing and today it was Howard Webb, England's senior ref, the man who was in charge of a World Cup final (and failed to send Nigel de Jong off) and of a CL final.
What a coward! He saw E'to's foul on Henderson and did nothing. He saw E'to's foul on Suarez in the penalty area and failed to give us a penalty. What a coward!
It's just infuriating - it's not as if he missed it - he clearly saw both occassions yet not responded.
 
As I wrote on Thursday - the level of refs in the PL is just terrible.
On Thursday it was the Atkinson horror show and Mason's poor refereeing and today it was Howard Webb, England's senior ref, the man who was in charge of a World Cup final (and failed to send Nigel de Jong off) and of a CL final.
What a coward! He saw E'to's foul on Henderson and did nothing. He saw E'to's foul on Suarez in the penalty area and failed to give us a penalty. What a coward!
It's just infuriating - it's not as if he missed it - he clearly saw both occassions yet not responded.

The Eto'o foul on Suarez is unvelievable. He's looking right at it a few yards away. Christ that was bad.
 
Are off-the-ball fouls commonly given as penalties though? I don't know.

For some reason, I'm not particularly enraged at the refs. The offside call against City was a major bummer, but we've had such shit in the past, and will continue to have it in the future. As will most teams, I reckon.

The focus needs to remain on squad strengthening. We're closer to a top 4 challenge than for years, and its critical that the right personnel are brought in. The less we think about something as lofty as a title challenge the better.
 
What did any of you expect from one of South Yorkshires finest? Honesty? Integrity? Hahahahahaha. Fuck off Webb.
 
We shouldn't be relying on 50/50 decisions that could go either way, we should be good enough to put games beyond the refs interference, and we're not.
If that 'foul' had been given against eto'o in our box, we'd have gone up the wall. Granted, eto'o shouldn't have been on the pitch really, but we need to stop letting games go to a position where we need the ref to win it for us, not our players.
 
Was the Suarez penalty really a penalty? Suarez didn't have control of the ball, was running away from goal and yes, Eto'o came across him but does that constitute a penalty if he doesn't even have control of the ball to begin with?
Genuine question.
 
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