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Other forum meltdown watch 24/25

What's the deal with City and them getting Chelsea shirts out ?
Nothing about our performance, they honestly believe they lost because they didn't play well. This is why they have fallen behind United in GD.
They’re glory hunters.
 
I gave it to my City “mate” this morning - he’s been quiet since he messaged me after Slott lost his first friendly, against Preston was it?

I hit him a few weeks back about that post aging like a carton of milk left out in The Lying Rag for a week - but he’s been radio silence of late.

He got the full “Peps getting sacked in the morning” from me - poor lamb… best he could come back with is “we were lucky, no world beaters and will be ordinary when Mo leaves”… job done, he’ll be leaving me alone for a while.

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They are 2 points off second, their supporters need to get a grip
They are done. 2 pts off 2nd now but they were ahead. The eye test tells you that team is both old and lacking quality - which I said before the season started. And their best player and engine room out for the season.
They are not getting Top 3.
 
Who's bingo that's mentioned in the post from fume? Was that a nickname for Klopp?
 
They are done. 2 pts off 2nd now but they were ahead. The eye test tells you that team is both old and lacking quality - which I said before the season started. And their best player and engine room out for the season.
They are not getting Top 3.

They were ravaged with injures not just Rodri. They'll still be there or there abouts.
 
They were ravaged with injures not just Rodri. They'll still be there or there abouts.
Ravaged - nah that's too strong. We were Ravaged when we had 11 players out including half our first team. Today they were missing 3 or 4 at most (and so were we). So IMHO no they won't. Team's too old, no legs in midfield, and they bought badly.

Injuries alone didn't cause their last 7 matches (take another look at them).
 
Ravaged - nah that's too strong. We were Ravaged when we had 11 players out including half our first team. Today they were mixing 3 or 4 at most (and so were we). So IMHO no they won't. Team's too old, no legs in midfield, and they bought badly.

Injuries alone doesn't cause their last 7 matches (take another look at them).

I said were. Not are.
Yesterday I agree, they were 2 or 3 away from their first choice XI
 
I don’t think I have the time to visit the funeral, arsehole mania and the fighting cockheads.
 
First up fumage

Disappointing result better than getting beat though, there were some positives in there.

2 or 3 players way off of it, need at least 3 more players on Kev's wavelength.

Referee is a cheat though, robbed us of that last 15mins. Should be demoted, twat.
How does Palace look 10 times more solid out of possession than we do? That’s on Pep, and the coaching staff not getting it done on the training ground.

Continuing to play Walker at this point is simply inexcusable. The number of points and trophies(FA Cup/Real Madrid goal) he’s cost us over the last two years is staggering. I KNOW we have injuries but play Nunes. Play Bernardo. Play an academy player. ANYONE but him.
Great kits, shit ref
Absolute fucking mess again that will be covered up by a dodgy red
The worse part is that Lewis red card means Walker plays next week.
Some of these refs need to be kneecapped.
Somebody check Walker’s SkyBet account. Criminally shit. Costs us every game.

Can’t do one thing well anymore - 2 types of goals he cost us today.

Poor and needs fucking off.
Not bad seeing as Pep only seems to be picking 8 players every game

Walker , Gundo and Sav may aswell stay on the coach
9vs 13
corrupt cunt ref
Walker at fault for 2 goals again. What does it take for him to be benched? He’s not even Championship level at this point
The reason we didn't win wasn't because rather card but our inability to defend

Pep got it wrong... again

If the title race wasn't over, it is now
One shot on target after our second goal.

Not
Good
Enough
I'm just sick of this season, from the injuries to the results to the referees.
The lineup meant the result was always gonna be us dropping points. Add the poor refereeing and it's no surprise that we performed poorly again.
Battled for a point, could have been three but for the cheating ref.

We desperately need injured players back fit and some pace and power adding to the squad in January.
Lack of composure across the pitch again, players can't even pass a simple ball without errors. And, Walker AGAIN
Rubbish.

Predictable tedious rubbish.
Walker, nunes, savinho, Lewis in the same starting 11 weakens us significantly
Two brain farts by Walker and a Scouse loving ref.

A point is better than a loss.
I am sorry but Pep needs to have a word with himself. Team selection and subs were way off it yet again.
Why is pep complaining at the ref the way the game was going why did he not think to take our only player on a yellow off ?
Bernardo and Walker playing for the opposition once again. Sigh
Pep has to do more this season. Not good enough from his (our) team again.

Even if our players weren't self destructing, our style of play is jaded.

Funny how a season can completely collapse. Pity that it's to us.
Yes the referee got the red card decision wrong, Let's be realistic, That was nowhere near good enough.

Walker needs fucking off he's getting on my tits, It's not even his mistakes, His attitude is fucking abysmal.

Too busy talking bullshit on his fucking "podcast" and pissing in streets.
Gary Neville thought Rico deserved to go…..just as clueless as the ref.
United will wipe the floor with us next week if we play like that

Only saving grace is that Lewis won't be playing, and hopefully Akanji is fit
I’m getting fucked off at the players who are constantly injured. Stones, Akanji, Ake it’s becoming a joke at this point. We can’t build any momentum cause we’re changing the team every fucking match. Take the draw and move on. Big week ahead
Only Juve, rags and Villa next.

Very poor again.

Can’t pass the ball, get caught out in the non existent midfield.

Walker can’t pass and can’t defend.

Rico scored very good goal but again exposed.

Shell of a team.

More pain to come.

The ref is a prick.

The fall from grace is here and it’s awful to watch.

Poor recruitment for whatever reason is the main issue. Negligent from the club imo.

Looked at times like the players couldn’t give a shit.

Different match same issues evident.

Huge rebuild needed to get anywhere near previous standards.
 
Red Cafe -

When will we stop being crap?​

It's been more than 10 years now. When will this end?
When we stop overpaying shit players and tad in their back every time they are upset.
Tbf I'd happily go to the pre-ole era. We were bad, but we weren't the joke that we became under Ole and ETH. The damage the two if them did to the clubs standing might be irreversible.
This is the worst group of footballers I’ve seen in my lifetime, and I’m 42
I really hope I'm wrong, but I don't think we are ever going back to being regular title challengers.
When Bruno is gone and we get a footballer who stops treating Premier League football like fecking around with his mates on the astro.
The last two managers completely destroyed any aura we had of being a big club. We probably suffered more humiliating defeats under them than 50 years before that.
When we stop being over sentimental with players and rewarding them big contracts for doing little. Clear the deadwood. Rashford, Dalot, Malacia, Shaw, Casemiro, Eriksen, Onana, Antony. Buy players who actually are willing to do the basics. Like win a 50:50, clear the ball properly, make the right pass in the final third. We have a long way to go. This teams Footballing IQ is woeful. Ten Hag has been the worst thing to happen in ages. Set the club back years with absolute dross. If Amorim is given the tools I am confident that he can turn it around
When the Glazers are tarred n feathered and run out of town. It’s all on them, leeching cash from the debt they gave us while employing idiots to give random donkeys multi million pound contracts.
80-90% of these players need to be gone.
I think the club is finished, too much rot has been allowed to fester, for far too long.
Never.

The universe is hell bent on paying us back in full with interest for the Fergie years.
How will they be history? All these players are on mega contracts, none of them will leave.

Maguire should have gone years ago. Lindelof, Rashford, Mount, Shaw. I could list half the squad. They’re not leaving because of the stupidity of the club when negotiating salaries.

Nothing has changed and nothing has been learnt. Gave a failing manager a contract extension in the summer only to sack him 2 months late and costing the club £20m. Now they’re whacking up ticket prices.

The club is owned and run by clowns. Nothing changes until the ownership changes which is never going to happen.
Hopefully once we get rid of these awful players.

But probably never. I think that we’ve had our time in The Lying Rag and can’t see us returning to the top for at least another decade. I hope I’m wrong, but at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t win another title again before I die. We’re cursed. Other people have expressed it better than me in this thread but still. It’ll be like Liverpool’s wait for a title but even longer. It’ll be a longer period than our own wait from a title from between 1967 and 1993.
I stand by Amorin was a poor decision as well. He may be a great manager but his system doesn’t compliment our group of players. We need two wingbacks, a CM, two 10s and a striker. Arguably backup CBs as well. Our most promising youngster in Garnacho doesn’t suit the system at all. And it’s not a United formation so when things go downhill fans will turn on the system very quickly.

I’d much rather we went for a manager that played 4-3-3 to provide some form of consistency. It’s one of the biggest mistakes we have made when changing managers.
A decade under a completely incompetent club hierarchy (Glazers, Woodward, Murtough, Arnold, etc.) didn't help either.

When Arnold took over as CEO and did that beer summit with a group of fans, he correctly diagnosed all the mistakes the club had made over the years that led it to squander billions and lose its financial and footballing edge... And then he inexplicably proceeded to repeat all those mistakes and waste another billion!

It won't be easy for us to recover from that.
A season in the Championship might give us the breathing space to make useful Changes.

We seem to be on a slow walk towards relegation and I just wish we get that route to meaningful change sometime soon as this eternal raising of false hope is getting me down.
Fans at old Trafford need to start giving these players some stick. If any of them were at Madrid or Barcelona they would be frightened for their lives. Our lot just post an apology and their names are sung the following week. Rinse and repeat.
Our squad is absolutely utter trash, one after the other we have signed completely filth players. There was a time we had Cavani, Greenwood, Rasghford, Bruno and pogba to score & create goals. Now we have players who won't make top half teams. Who signed off signing these players like Hojlund, Zirkzee and mount etc needs to be answerable
dippers waited 30+

gooners are closing in on 21?

We've only just begun my friend.
When we stop being selfish and learn to play as a team. Dalot in particular should be called out on his unforgivable decision to blast the ball over the bar from 30 yards instead of passing to teammates in good positions. Garnacho too needs to learn to be a team player.

If they’re not up to it they need to go ASAP.
It’s going to take a few years because we are stuck with a lot of this dross until their contracts run out. Someone behind the scenes is going to have to have the balls/sense to start selling off likes of Rashford, Martinez, Mount and Dalot as well as allowing most contracts to expire.
I’d like to see players calling each other out on the pitch more when they make an utterly stupid decision or mistake. If they can’t take it and learn from it they can go. This isn’t a kindergarten, we’re supposed to be a professional sports team where only the strongest minded survive. We’ve let it become a weak minded outfit with no repercussions.
A decade of making the same mistakes and expecting a different outcome. Need to be a club with competence off the field first before becoming any way decent and consistent on it.
Our top scorer in the league last year had 10. Our top scorer nearly halfway through the season is on 4. Horrendous stuff
 
Arsenal Mania -

Should Arteta’s position as manager be under threat if we don’t win the PL or CL?​

enough with the Partey RB ****.
It's time to go.
If we go trophy-less yet again, he can go. Don't care.
Some things never change. Feel pressure…makes stupid subs. Ode sub was crazy
biting nails on every set piece, that's the state of our football
Good manager and a good player for us, but we have peaked under him.

Had his chance to win the title last and he just can't get us ovr the line, be shocked if we ever do under him...too loyal to certain players and doesn't identify the correct attackers for me, doesn't seem to be able to handle X factor players.

Better win the FA cup though, please 🙏

That's 0-2-1 vs Fullham while trying to challenge for a title?

Attack looks out of ideas again.

Midfield selection wasn't really to my taste, killed our press in the first half.

Might be the end of the title chase, as we needed to go for a 5 game run or something to show we were up for it without needing others to slip constantly.

Hope I'm wrong in that lasy part.
Again and Again and Again the same old mistakes. Again he tries to fix one position by making two positions worse. Again Timber on the left being to slow to play the ball forward because he always has to take the ball on his right foot and Partey offers nothing going forward. He doesn't learn and I'm at the point where he can go at the end of the season. So tired of him ruining his own work by not seeing the issues right in front of him. But...But...But what should he have done? Play Tierney or MLS? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! then if it doesn't work you only got 1 position being bad on the pitch not two.

we were never in the title convo IMO.

Liverpool too good.

We should aspire to a good run in the CL and finishing top 4 again.
Really under pressure due to all the injuries. Still we're in a good run despite that.
Officially relying on set pieces to do the job against Fulham.

What fresh hell is this. **** sake.
I think he's actually capable of coaching a title winning team it's just his taste in players is awful.

He needs someone to take the transfers out of his hands and we might be able to go all the way.
City might/will lose 5-8 games this season and we still won’t win the league.
That was a tired Fulham who had tough game on Thursday night. Sat deep and had little energy. Should have been a walk over for any top team. The fact a corner saved us and another one was our best chance says everything

I’m sorry but we can’t build an attack. There is absolutely nothing middle of the park in our play. Fulham closed the right side and we just huffed and puffed for 90 mins
The guy is a fraud, his process is literally a circle going nowhere. Always the same. We won't win anything with him with his coward approach.
Big question marks over his ability to put together and coach an elite alive attack at this point.

Next big signing has to be an attacker and it has to be a huge hit imo. The good will is wearing off now
Singing Calafiori who can’t put 2 games together and not an attacker was odd at the time and starts to look really ****ing odd now
I'm just going to keep saying this but if he doesn't win the league this season he needs to be sacked, simple as that.

He will be given another season regardless of whatever happens, though.

He really needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat for the remainder of this season.
Man receives fit Saka and he burns him out in 2 matches, that's hilarious.

At this point all you can hope for is a cup run where the set piece gimmick can last long enough
These guys just can’t string a season together. It’s a combination of not having the quality or the minerals.
He definitely think he's some sort of Spanish Brad Pitt.
KINGS OF FANNYING ABOUT !

Imagine having the audacity of after having 5 years in the job of still speculating and theorising of what you want to be in the future. It's like a child saying "Daddy, daddy, I want to be an astronaut or President when I grow up" - ("Stop talking cack, son").
We are not in the infancy stages of his tenure, we are at the stage where he should be producing and fruitful. What we get is pish.

Get out of my club you serpent POFS.
The only consolation of his tenure is that he'll eventually fade into obscurity but will be sporadically remembered as the weirdo who drew hearts & brains on the flowchart during the Amazon documentary.
Where's our manager? All I can see in the dugout is our set pieces coach, and the only threat I can see on the pitch are our corner kicks.
The irony is that Arteta pissed a ****load of money on defenders, and we are on course to concede 40 goals if things carry as they are.
Time to refresh the attack buddy you can't have 70% possession at Newcastle and Fulham always putting pressure but not score.

Kept faith on some of these players long enough and our defense got us 4 points last tow games not our attack because they back being cold with thier form
Didn't suppose Arteta changed the "Arsenal culture" ? We are still winning nothing but playing like Stoke instead of beautiful football.
The veil has fallen & people have finally started what we few dissenters have always known.

He's a middling manager with exceptional PR but nowhere near good enough to win the big trophies.

Hell, he fluked the FA Cup with his predecessor's team and done f*ck all since!!
Arrest warrants needs to be issued against Tetanyahu and his team for crimes against the beautiful game.
dominate, unbelievable, dominate, unbelievable, dominate, unbelievable' ad nauseam.

This heinous individual needs to be wrapped in fish guts and fed to carcharodon carcharias
People out there joking about how we should get an open play coach. We're Arsenal FFS.
Again, City could lose 5-8 games this season, if not more, and we could still be way off the league title.

Questions will have to be asked.
Same ole story. It is not how we play against the big 6. We are okay there.

It is the other teams. :facepalm: It has been a year. We Still can't beat Fulham. Solid side and all, but cmon.

It isn't the talent as much as it is the strategy.
The way he has constructed our attack and set us up some time is mind boggling really.

Two inverted full backs, Trossard outwide who can't run and Havertz up front who's pretty much a target man...everything just gets congested, our only fast player is Saka and he's marked by an equally fast fullback...what's the plan, possession then win a set piece?

Pool have Diaz and Jota that are pure pace (plus Salah, who's a matchwinner too) even Chelsea have Jackson and Neto who are elite off the ball runners...you need speed and dribblers, what do we have?

It's Arteta is trying to play 2010s slow build up Wengerball, but without giving the players freedom to do it properly.

God our attack is boring individually.
I don't care about the mythical title charge. I've genuinely found myself refusing to tune in to matches because our style of play is just garbage & too exhausting to muster any effort to care about.

The only reason I eventually capitulate is because of my love for the club.

This was NEVER an issue even in the darkest Wenger days or the final days of Emery. I'd always tune in because, though we were naive, the football on display was, at times, scintillating & keeps you fixed to your seat!!

Additionally, both Wenger & Emery were likeable men, unlike the humorless f*cker in charge now.
If Slot wins the league then it’s bad bad look on Mick. He’s going to get that shoved down his throat from all quarters.

His reputation takes a massive dent.
He should be getting some heat tonight. He's persisting with players that aren't good enough in certain situations and putting them in those positions time after time. Wenger said that a young pkayer will cost you points but atm, the old timers almist guarantee it, so maybe he could try something else.
 
The fighting cock match thread after the final whistle.

I can’t forgive the immaturity and cowardice of these players sorry. Fraser Forster excluded

We should have been playing against 10 men
We lost to two penalties - brainless and our right back bottling a challenge on the ball, coward.
The ref as usual played into their hands (Kulu’s offense couldn’t have occurred against one less midfielder)
Change the roster
We were 2 nil up
We had 0 control of the game.
Our tactics have us all over the place even when 2 up.
Chelsea made tactical changes.
Once again we didnt.
We're terribly coached.
I just think its grossly unfair what our owner has done to the fans. Humiliating us year after year. Ange will be sacked imo next 24 hours. Too kamikaze.
Yes we did nothing 2nd half. Just think palmer cost £40m.
Johnson apart from taking advantage of slip and then for once putting in a decent cross offered f all again.
Time to take a break from football for my own health and sanity. At least for a couple of weeks. 👍
Thank Fcuk there are no receipts given when you sell the ticket.
You can blame Ange for a lot of this. But that summer window was the biggest shit show in ages and it’s showing. Ange had the team playing well last season. Some investment and we could have kicked on. But of course did fuck all other then buy prospects. Our bench is pitiful. Fuck this club is killing me
We need a reset:

Lange, Ange and our amateur hour coaching team need hoofing to the moon.

Paratici (post ban) and a manager who understands the English game, excels at in game management and has a plan A, B, C is what we need.
We need to hire best manager in world whos available right now. But will they work with levy? Id have poch back.
I love Sonny. Loved him for years. Will always love him. But this has to be his last season. The time has finally come
The concerning thing (or one of them), is not only did we feel that, but you could tell that the Chelsea players felt that as well. No panic even at 2-0 down away in a london derby. They knew if they kept plugging away, we'd beat ourselves. Every team knows that when they play us.
Ange said we'd be competing for European places this season. Bollocks to that.
Ange thinks were playing ross county every week with his gung ho management. 2nd rate. OUT!
Leave me alone - I've walked 3 miles in freezing rain to come see us throw away 4 goals to the cu ts I hate more than anyone else and am now in Bluecoats drowning my sorrows.
We are a very naive side. That second penalty epitomised it. Son could have got his body across the ball as the Chelsea player comes in for a header on the edge of the box to get a foul/penalty Just not game aware. Then Sarr duly obliges when palmer steps across him to protect the ball.

Son and kulu had other chances to draw a penalty as well but seems like we don’t care about playing for those percentages.

Bissouma for the equaliser has a simple progressive ball inside tries to dribble loses it then loses his head. Just a real lack of control and discipline in this side. It’s a shame because I like Ange and we do play some really good football at times but he’s really not getting the small percentages and game management out of this side.
I feel nothing
The atmosphere in Ibrox will have these pussys shitting themselves
Please levy go mate. Thanks for what youve tried to do but surely you have to admit defeat first time in your career. Exploited fans loyalty too long.
Dreading Rangers because they will be up for a fight unlike our bottlers!
Well

We were 2 nil up

Dragusin was on for all four Chelsea goals so......
Dragusin. Crap. Conceded 4 goals when he came on. Need a replacement for udogie. He dont look like hes coached under Ange.
We get exactly what we deserve.
Can we just start Maddison from now on.

I don’t care if he’s a snowflake. He can play football.
Dragu seems basically like Dier to me—big, slow, generally poor awareness especially when the play is moving towards him quickly.

Udogie is regressing. He was bad defensively last year, even worse this year.
Spurs IS torture!!

And of course it's stemming from the top, just need to get my frustration out!

How can we be this bad? We are one of the richest clubs in the world, but everything we touch or do is wrong.

How hard can it be even for Levy?? Hire the best Head of football, let him hire the best scouts, hire the best manager available, we can afford it!! Even Levy must have contacts in football who can advise him on things like this? And why are there no ex-players on the board?
Tactics Tim is available
When a team is down 2 goals to Spurs it doesn't have to work any harder than if the game was 0-0
Ange tactics too frenetic, tactically naive and resulting injuring players and morale. Out!
I see a future of Ange sacked and Poch coming back in to save the club, then for it not to go well and fans to turn on Mauricio and that will then be my Spurs spirit completely and utterly broken.
I’m sure I’ll find the fortitude to somehow get myself in front of the tele for Rangers, but honestly I don’t know why.

I increasingly get no joy from doing this, even after City it’s a momentary high and then I’m thinking about the inevitable forthcoming cock up.

After decades of this, I’m just worn out. It’s the same thing over and over. The same degradation, commentators mentioning how it is Spursy mid-match. It’s just pathetic honestly and I feel pathetic for showing up week in week out.
We ultimately deserved to lose. But that game genuinely had the hint of rigged to me. The red card, Sarr getting a yellow for grazing Cucurella, Kulu on the break called for foul for absolutely nothing.
Soooooo nothing to do with the way we play, the way we are constantly wide open even at 2 up. Chelsea were tearing us apart at 2 up. They made tactical and personell switch at halftime and dominated from there on. At 2 all there was only 1 winner.
We defend by all running around chasing the ball. No structure or organisation.
We run around a lot till our players are shattered and this leads to mistakes.
Even klopp and pep realised that full on constant press does not work. Teams are so good now at playing around it and we are constantly sprinting back. Everything is high intensity which is leading to injuries
After going 2 up. Ange should have parked the Bus and waited for Chelsea to make mistakes. Trying to go 200 for 90 min leads to what we have now
 
Arsenal Mania -

Should Arteta’s position as manager be under threat if we don’t win the PL or CL?​

Some of these guys are properly funny. They're much funnier losers than Citeh fans. "People out there joking about how we should get an open play coach." LOL

"Imagine having the audacity of after having 5 years in the job of still speculating and theorising of what you want to be in the future. It's like a child saying "Daddy, daddy, I want to be an astronaut or President when I grow up" - ("Stop talking cack, son").
We are not in the infancy stages of his tenure, we are at the stage where he should be producing and fruitful. What we get is pish."

Hahaha. I love the idea of this guy crushing his children's dreams! He's great.
 
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