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Other forum meltdown watch 24/25

Let’s head off to my usual Arseholes forum and their Title Charge thread.

It's over, if it wasn't already. Big money needs to be spent on a CF and LW before Saka, Saliba, Gabriel, Ødegaard want to move on
Central midfield too.
God, Mikel Merino, what a load of **** he is.
Time to make the title change official, Mods. This race is about as lively as Ramesses II.
Title winning run any minute.
Mods refusing to change the title




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If city beat yanited they'll be level on points 😭
Nah man this team is taking this piss at this point.
This was always going to become an issue when you start believing in your set piece hype and focus too much on that, now they've become completely inept at creating chances from open play on a consistent basis. Every week we have to sit and watch this team pass side to side, win corners and try to score from that and that alone. Given up on title at this point, they're not suddenly going to become consistent enough again to overhaul Liverpool and even f*ing Chelsea now. Absolute farce how poor we've become this season.
Yeah its done, Pool or Chelsea for the title. Looks bad on Tets tbh.
I put my money on liverpool and Chelsea.

Chelsea´s has the best midfielder in Caicedo and the best attacking player in Palmer, if City does not find form and Liverpool loses a key player a la Mcallister I can see them going all the way, their sheet is inmense and they have enough players to rotate, their European football is basically friendlies.

THis was the season we needed to step up and prove ourselves, instead of doing that, we went and bought 4 defenders.
I'm really tuning out of this season. I'll just watch the cup games. The PL is just a boring grind
What pi$$es me off the most, is everytime we need to win we dont. After last season i thought they had that mentality to win when needed. Not this year. Bar Lb and maybe Partey, thst was our first 11. Shocking!
You’re only hurting yourself if you’re still thinking about Liverpool. It doesn’t matter if they have the odd slip up, we aren’t Man City who will hound them down all season and take advantage of every slip up. (As we saw today) The gap between Arsenal and falling out of a top four spot is in far greater danger than the one that separates us from Liverpool. If they win their game in hand they go 9 points clear, that same gap is the difference between us and 12th - 13th in the table. Don’t do it to yourself
It's over guys yes the point difference still the same but honestly watch our team and we not good more chances finishing 4th
I think we threw it away today. It is a very damaging draw. You can't dominate the game like today, and end up giving away two points.
We aren't any better!! If I'm an opposition manager, I'd count my lucky stars to be in a title race with a perennial loser like Tets who'll never amount to anything.
After today's result I think we have to be realistic. Barring an almighty fck up by Pool, we not gonna seriously compete for the title. Even if we somehow sort it out & go on an epic run, it's unlikely to be enough.

We should buy some attackers in January & just go for the CL & domestic cups.
The usual suspects will be out to say it’s not over, keep the faith.

It’s over.

He’s had enough chances.
Haven't watched a full game so far and I'm glad. Arteta has to go, failed this summer window and he's evolving into Mourinho. Seeing from reactions his game is still boring as hell. Sickening.
For those who have faith you know to win the title we basically need to at least win next 3 games get 39 points to finish first half but 2nd half of season you basically need 50 points at least and with how we going it's impossible.

Can't see it happening unless our attack by miracle start producing. The frustrating thing is Liverpool already gave us tow chances we took one against utd but return the favor the last tow game that the reason we ain't doing it
Would be interesting to see a poll here if anyone is up for a manager change and for who. I’m tempted to say this is it.
At least people have stopped moaning about ref calls and whatever else.

We haven’t played well enough to deserve the title. That’s the bottom line.
Arteta peaked in 2022
I’ll always be grateful Mikel got us to the level where this thread title exists on a forum.

I remember the fight for top 4 days, makes me shudder.

Mikel has been a raging success.
That was a more successful period. Paid off debt, cheap signings and met club targets.

Now it’s massive spending and haramball with a guy from Holland coming in and winning the league without spending anything.
I don’t care.
We've been playing like this for the past two seasons and Arteta has perfected his style so that we struggle to do anything extraordinary. It will be a story for the ages if we win the PL this season but it was evident from matchday 5, despite our quarrels with the refereeing, that we hadn't improved. Our title challenge is done-unless we get a transformative player and the largest slice of luck in January. In truth, we never got started this season.
I think last season is as good as it will get with him. He will have 3 seasons based on last season and he will fill the squad with trash. Last window was disastrous
I think Arteta did as much with us that we can do. I don't blame him. If we're going to now do this I am going to step aside. If it gets ugly and fingers are pointed at him I don't want to be involved. I think his approach was the one.

I've already said this will likely be my last season following PL football and I think I was right
Unfortunately I don’t think we have what it takes people. We are just too conservative, and teams are now relying on that to compete with us.

When our set piece danger dries up it becomes a frustrating watch. We are just not attacking the diminishing spaces in behind fast enough.

The reasons Liverpool can score 2 goals with 10 men is twofold. They embrace the chaos needed to open teams up, and they finish off tight chances.

We get the tight chances, but we do it with control in place. Great idea but it’s far too tight to ensure consistent victories. Look at our last three games, all having tight chances with hopeless finishing.

If we have any dreams of any big trophy this season, we need to embrace more chaos in our game.

Will Arteta embrace that chaos, move us more towards 22/23 again? I doubt.

We aren’t finished yet… but we might as well be. I can’t see us winning 19/20 of our remaining 22 games. It’s far too big an ask for this inconsistent attack now I think.
I'm afraid if we don't fix up offensively we even finish outside top 4. All the teams going to sit deep against us apart from handful of teams no mid or lower PL team gonna play like monaco at Emirates. We had utd played so deep against us. Arteta is stubborn as well
 
Nothing short of disgraceful throwing that away.

Heads went again. Too many players not good enough.
We are so bad.
Not a set of bollocks between the lot of them
Shithouse spineless cunts
Embarrassing.
Didn’t deserve to win.
We are, we are really here
Embarrassment to throw away a game we largely controlled. Ridiculous. Not even sure where to start with that. Fuck off.
Disgraceful
Embarassing
Shite
FUCK OFF
I know most people talk about the matchday threads for its negativity but I've noticed all the smug "fanny wipe" posting cunts have suddenly disappeared from them.
Worst derby i've ever seen and there were some bad ones back in the day. All City players but especially Pep should hang their heads in shame. We are relegation fodder.
Not one cared today.
Time to fuck off. Who? I don't know. But it's time to fuck off.
Right now, If given opportunity, I would kill without hesitation this peace of shit of player called Matheus Nunes.
Pep still hasn't done a fucking thing to stop the rot.pathetic.
Mentally piss poor , tactically piss poor and quality non existent. Pep looks clueless into how he halts this and you can’t pin it all down to injuries .
That’s it over now.
Heads need to roll
Huge changes required
Completely average team, offering absolutely fuck all
United are abysmal and we still did fuck all
Shithouses
Radical changes are needed. I don’t mind the defeat, it’s the complete lack of urgency, pace, desire and professionalism I can’t accept.
That result was just…Fuck ing hell lol
That bad. That ridiculous.
Most embarrassing defeat out of the fucking lot.
Disgraceful second half performance, culminating in an unacceptable collapse.
So poor. We just handed it to them on a plate
Just when you think it can’t get any worse………

Dunno what to say really.
One win in eleven games thats relegation form and we've got Villa away next.
Shite.

We are fucked.
Enough of the bullshit

Stevie Wonder can see we're fucking shit

Whatever the fucks going on, Pep, stop with the injury bollocks, there's fuck all passion, energy or cutting edge to the team at all

A deflected cross set up the goal, and then there was fuck all else.

Stop with the bullshit, players saying it's not good enough... Fucking do something about it then! Not a single one gives a fuck out there
If he hasn't already Khaldoon needs to get involved!
Fuck this whole team
Putting Nunes in the starting lineup signaled Peps intent to lose this game today. Well done.
Fucking tragic
Let the game drift. No desire, no fight, no urgency. The team is done. I honestly don’t know the answer. Just absolutely disgusted with them
Pep won't be here at the start of next season. And it'll be good for him, he needs a break.

Also think he's lost the players.
Fucking wank and the lot of them are a disgrace atm .this carry’s on and pep will walk away
Shit result, shit performance, shit derby, that was really poor from start to finish
We are beyond pathetic, anyone else and they are gone, he absolutely shouldnt be but its that bad atm. This is now relegation form it's that bad. This team is absolutely finished
You could see that happening all the way through the second half.
I'm 65 next month, I feel like I'm 27 again 🙁
Wow, Not sure what’s happened to us.
This terrible form is not because we are missing Rodri there’s more to it than that.
And that just about sums it up.

A new, modern day, low.
 
We’re pathetic. I’d sign as many players as possible in january. It’s my fault as I said at least we’ve made no stupid mistakes, about 5 seconds before Nunes gifted them an equaliser
The team has lost all confidence and professionalism
Sack the lot

Too many players taking too many touches. Feel for Nunes who seems to take these moments hard but if we don't sign some quality in January I fear for the rest of the season.
It's hope we stay up.i have no words.
Things will turn nasty soon. Our form is only half the story, we are playing like a side destined for relegation.

We don’t create anything, cannot defend and are mentally shot.
Individual mistakes and frailty again but what the fuck was that second half. We completely surrendered the game to them and Pep waited far too long to make any fucking subs. It's happened in so many games now. Just running down the energy of the older fuckers and allowing the opposition to be on the front foot. What a joke
I think Pep is a gonner. As painful as it is to contemplate, he will walk before Xmas day.
A shameful spineless surrender led by Walker …. I’m not sure where we go from here tbh.
What the fuck are the players doing to us? We pay their wages but they don’t seem to give a fuck!
Didn't play well at all, especially 2nd half but we had that in the bag with 5 mins to go and up steps Nunes to make 2 stupid errors that show why Guardiola doesn't trust him. Absolute clown. ThenEderson and Gvardiol contrive to give them a 2nd. Unforgivable really.

We are well off our usual standard but there is really no excuse for the kind of basic mistakes we are making.
Looked like they didn't give a shit in the second half.
Where are all the happy clappers now. Toothless. Embarrassing. Fuck off. Dreadful.
Sick of losing especially to this rabble of shit.

Rock bottom now.

No midfield no control of the game.

Anyway, nothing has changed we are shit still.
Disgraceful from all involved. Nunes had a decent 84 mins and threw it all away in the last 10. Grealish, Doku, Haaland and Savio are toothless. Wouldn't mind if they were all benched for the next few games. The board need to splash the cash on whoever will do more than this current crop of players
Pep hasn’t the faintest fucking clue how to turn this around.

If we don’t spend a fucking fortune in January then we’re fucked.

Ederson checked out months ago. As composed as MJ Fox on speed and we’ve conceded every penalty in the PL in 3 1/2 years.

Nunes is not a footballer.

I was less embarrassed by this team in the ‘90s when we got turned over every year. Those guys, whilst generally shit, at least seemed to give one.
Buy shit players get shit results
This is a serious problem. A very serious problem. We've gone to pieces. I don't feel.that we can beat anyone anymore.
I’ve held back and laughed a lot of this run off, especially as we’ve had it all, and can’t have it that way all of the time.

But I think serious questions need to start being asked. 8 losses in 11, just 1 win in that time. We can blame injuries but we’ve done it with injuries before, and it’s not unique to us.

Too many underperforming players, some who actively look like they don’t give much a toss. A manager who is making mistake after mistake now. We’ll be pot-less by the middle of January if this keeps up. And for the first time in 15 years, it actually feels like this run isn’t going to come to an end yet.

Have the players lost their heads? Has Pep lost some of the players? What the fuck is going on now?
Theres no defending that one. That was lily-livered.
Think we can add nunes to the Scott sinclair category of signings.
How did anyone ever think he was suitable for us is an absolute mystery.
Failed to show any threat of scoring a second but always offered the ability to throw it away. Fuckin disgrace.
I'll never be a Pep outer after what he's done for the club, but fuck me this can't go on. 2 or three signings in Jan doesn't fix that mental fragility. It's incredible.
No fight, no desire, second to every fucking ball. An absolute shambles. They are wank, but always looked the more likely winners. No press, fucking cowards.
Disgraceful performance, even at 1-0 up we were shite. There is something seriously not right, you can't blame injuries or age for this type of drop off. United were shite they didn't even play well.
Injuries and fatigue aside, something must be going on behind the scenes for us to be this dismal.
Something needs to happen but I don't know what. Wish it were more normal to sack players the way we sack managers. Very few on the pitch today deserves to play another minute for us
Wtf was that. So poor considering its derby.

The players gave up
Club should let a few supporters into the dressing room.

Bunch of shit houses.
A truly woeful second half performance, we are hell bent on shooting ourselves in the foot. Game after game we are making basic errors.

Big names need dropping - we simply cannot accommodate so many players that can’t get around the pitch. If that means one or two young lads starting then so be it.
Clearly Nunes head was gone 2nd half.

But we were awful as a team that 2nd half, and that is massively on Pep.

We simply relinquished control to them, did nothinf with the ball and lost it all the time making nothing.
 
City fans berating Matteus Nunes can fuck off. He was “Pepped” to play at LB and for 85 mins did a competent job. You could see him blowing toward the end and the inevitable happened.
 
City fans berating Matteus Nunes can fuck off. He was “Pepped” to play at LB and for 85 mins did a competent job. You could see him blowing toward the end and the inevitable happened.
Nunes can sleep soundly knowing the same fans will be berating Cucurella next season.
 
Nunes can sleep soundly knowing the same fans will be berating Cucurella next season.
I get where you are coming from on this but Cucurella is a LB not a left sided midfielder. Nunes is not suited to either the LB or LWB roles
 
“…we are playing like a side destined for relegation…”

Oh how right you are Blue Fumer… how right you are!!!
 
Another reason to laugh is that ironically Cole Palmer is in the background of that pic. Cheaty would be laughing now if they hadn't been arrogant pricks and sold him to Chelsea.
 
Another reason to laugh is that ironically Cole Palmer is in the background of that pic. Cheaty would be laughing now if they hadn't been arrogant pricks and sold him to Chelsea.

City’s transfer activities have been fucking awful for seasons / letting good young players go and signing shite replacements.

This is a list of players once on City’s books
Julian Alvarez, Cole Palmer, Pedro Porro, Douglas Luiz, Eric Garcia, Liam Delap, Romeo Lavia, James Trafford, Morgan Rodgers, Taylor Harwood-Bellis, Michael Olise, Jadon Sancho, Brahim Diaz, Tosin Adarabioyo, Jeremie Frimpong….

That’s an insane amount of talent they let go, particularly when you look at the shite they’ve replaced it with and only really Foden has broken into the team from youth level (although you could add Rico Lewis to that list now).
 
City’s transfer activities have been fucking awful for seasons / letting good young players go and signing shite replacements.

This is a list of players once on City’s books
Julian Alvarez, Cole Palmer, Pedro Porro, Douglas Luiz, Eric Garcia, Liam Delap, Romeo Lavia, James Trafford, Morgan Rodgers, Taylor Harwood-Bellis, Michael Olise, Jadon Sancho, Brahim Diaz, Tosin Adarabioyo, Jeremie Frimpong….

That’s an insane amount of talent they let go, particularly when you look at the shite they’ve replaced it with and only really Foden has broken into the team from youth level (although you could add Rico Lewis to that list now).

They've always been super confident in their ability to develop more talent, attract more players that they've been comfortable balancing the books with sales.

But their purchases have become increasingly erratic and marginally effective. Grealish had one decent season. 100m! Doku flatters to deceive. A million centrebacks deployed across the entire backline. Bringing Gundogan back. Absurd.
 
I know that we're all very biased in this argument, but this, for me, is concrete proof that Pep is not somebody who should be considered amoungst the all-time great managers... He's literally NEVER had a situation like this, where thinks haven't been practically perfect for him, until now, and he and his team have literally fallen to pieces.

When we had our disastrous season in 20/21, even with everything that we faced, Jurgen got us to third that year... This overrated plonker has lost ONE (albeit) top player, and the world immediately starts to end. They should still be winning most every game, even with this 'injury crisis', and he shouldn't be soooooooooooo wound up that we're all genuinely worried for his mental health. And all-time great wouldn't be overseeing this pantomime.
 
I really don't want to be the one defending that cunt but you can't take away years of success ( not just with Man C) just because of this recent blip. The season is far from over and Man C will definitely recover.

I can argue that Klopp never has been in a situation where he's won the league 4 times in a row and has to keep challenging.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've barely been able to "compete" for the league title two seasons in a row under Klopp.

Obviously financial doping helped Pep, but I can also argue that Man U during their success had the pick of the litter as well.
 
I really don't want to be the one defending that cunt but you can't take away years of success ( not just with Man C) just because this recent blip. The season is far from over and Man C will definitely recover.

I can argue that Klopp never has been in a situation where he's won the league 4 times in a row and has to keep challenging.
Correct me if I'm wrong but we've barely been able to "compete" for the league title two seasons in a row under Klopp.

Obviously financial doping helped Pep, but I can argue that Man U during their success had the pick of the litter as well.

there was the 2 year spell where we won the CL and marginally finished 2nd, then we won the league. But yeah, normally any proper challenge was followed by a poorer season
 
I really don't want to be the one defending that cunt but you can't take away years of success ( not just with Man C) just because of this recent blip. The season is far from over and Man C will definitely recover.

I can argue that Klopp never has been in a situation where he's won the league 4 times in a row and has to keep challenging.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've barely been able to "compete" for the league title two seasons in a row under Klopp.

Obviously financial doping helped Pep, but I can also argue that Man U during their success had the pick of the litter as well.
Yes I can take it all away. He's the Golden Child born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Any good manager could have done what he's done with the resources he's had.

There's no way he deserves to be rated in the top echelon. He's just a lucky dogfucker.
 
I really don't want to be the one defending that cunt but you can't take away years of success ( not just with Man C) just because of this recent blip. The season is far from over and Man C will definitely recover.

I can argue that Klopp never has been in a situation where he's won the league 4 times in a row and has to keep challenging.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've barely been able to "compete" for the league title two seasons in a row under Klopp.

Obviously financial doping helped Pep, but I can also argue that Man U during their success had the pick of the litter as well.

Has Klopp ever had the financial strength & consistent squad strength of a Barca, Bayern or City?
Barca was at the time he got it stacked beyond belief ... with financial flex.
Bayern won the treble before and after him - that's how their team is expected to perform.
City were winning leagues with managers before Pep with the financial flex that few teams could compete with.

Has Pep ever done what Klopp did at Dortmund? Liverpool? Could he? Maybe, but his ego and make up will never allow him ... He's nowhere near Mourinho or Ferguson in the top 2 managers in PL history, regardless of his trophies.

As for the point about Man U and their 'financial doping' - let's not compare them and Man City, or pretend that Ferguson didn't build that team from the shitter there were in ...
 
I really don't want to be the one defending that cunt but you can't take away years of success ( not just with Man C) just because of this recent blip. The season is far from over and Man C will definitely recover.

I can argue that Klopp never has been in a situation where he's won the league 4 times in a row and has to keep challenging.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've barely been able to "compete" for the league title two seasons in a row under Klopp.

Obviously financial doping helped Pep, but I can also argue that Man U during their success had the pick of the litter as well.

I'm not taking away the success... He's obviously a very coach coach.

And he can obviously manage egos, which is a HUGE task, when overseeing a squad like he's had, but I am saying that he's never had to endure any kind of hardship, or ever had to rebuild a squad and start over, or ever NOT had unlimited wealth to get him the world's best players, until now, and what happens next will tell us what he's really made of... He's NOT an all-time great manager, if he can only do it when every single thing is working in his favour, and he's in charge of the richest club on the planet.

He couldn't have done what Jurgen did, given what Jurgen had to work with from a financial and playing staff position, he he been here instead, and going up against that cheating behemoth. All just in my opinion, of course...
 
I'm not taking away the success... He's obviously a very coach coach.

And he can obviously manage egos, which is a HUGE task, when overseeing a squad like he's had, but I am saying that he's never had to endure any kind of hardship, or ever had to rebuild a squad and start over, or ever NOT had unlimited wealth to get him the world's best players, until now, and what happens next will tell us what he's really made of... He's NOT an all-time great manager, if he can only do it when every single thing is working in his favour, and he's in charge of the richest club on the planet.

He couldn't have done what Jurgen did, given what Jurgen had to work with from a financial and playing staff position, he he been here instead, and going up against that cheating behemoth. All just in my opinion, of course...
True but he did still build a very successful team. Most of the players he bought weren't the finished article when they joined Man C.
Also, financial power doesn't always equal success. Recent examples would be Man U and Chelsea.
 
Both fair points. But financial clout sure doesn't hurt, does it..?

He's never had to do what our Jurgen did, or other true greats have... He's ALWAYS had the world's best team handed to him, consisting of the world's best players, all over the pitch. That's all I'm saying.

I honestly believe that if Jurgen and he had swapped places 10 years back, we'd have one less title and one less European Cup that we do now, and they'd be chasing their 8th straight title and they've have at least two more European Cups.
 
Let's see where City end up at the season close before judging how Pep has done. They're only a handful of points off where they were last season. Although it doesn't look likely at the moment, they could turn it on and rip through the second half of the season.

Still a mangy dogfucker though either way.
 
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