Next England manager

[Judge Jules]

I know most people here don't like them, but I think either of the following would make really a really good England manager:

(1) Alan Pardew
(2) Harry Redknapp

Being a good international manager isn't really about training a team Klopp-style or buying youngsters a la Wenger.

It's about putting together a solid unit from the bits and pieces available to you, having a good tactical sense and a game plan that isn't pretty but works, and instilling an intense but unsustainable team spirit / siege mentality over the course of a tournament.

It doesn't matter if you are a total asshole who drives everyone crazy after a few months.

Rafa would be great too!

Pardew, apart from being an @rsehole of the highest order, is a VERY streaky manager indeed. His teams always have a spell of looking unbeatable followed by a longer spell of being unspeakable, rinse and repeat. I think he'd be a disaster.

'Arry though isn't a bad shout IMO, perhaps in a DOF-type post with a younger first team coach type. Eddie Howe might be a possibility for the latter role but I just get this sense with him that he's so attached to Bournemouth that he might not transplant well. I think Rafa could be the best shout of the three you've mentioned, but (a) he's given Newcastle a commitment which it would cost shedloads to release him from and (b) I wonder if the Spain job will fall vacant soon.

 

[gkmacca]

I wonder if the Spain job will fall vacant soon.

Very soon, I'd assume.

 

[Red Astaire]

I must admit to a giggle myself. It also didn't come as any surprise.

Yep me too. I couldn't help it. After all the Brexit stuff it seemed so obvious that the cosmic vibrations of the universe would align and that would happen. I told Mrs Astaire they were bound to lose. I should have put a bet on as it was so obvious.

 

[The Nomad]

Yep me too. I couldn't help it. After all the Brexit stuff it seemed so obvious that the cosmic vibrations of the universe would align and that would happen. I told Mrs Astaire they were bound to lose. I should have put a bet on as it was so obvious.

Heh... 200/1 was Rooney first goal scorer and correct score 2-1 Iceland. Someone my missus knows had a pound on it, I still maintain they meant to put 2-1 England.

 

[gkmacca]

That's why mums bet on Iceland.

 

[peekay]

I hope by that it's meant deportation.

Hahahaha

 

[peekay]

You have to admire his chutzpah. Parachuted in on a short-term deal to rescue Sunderland from what seemed a very possible relegation, and he STILL goes:

"And oh yeah, chuck in a release clause in case I'm offered the England job"

Ha. I think it is not that uncommon for managers and players to insist on those clauses. Vardy in his previous contract had a Champions League club release clause.

 

[peekay]

Pardew, apart from being an @rsehole of the highest order, is a VERY streaky manager indeed. His teams always have a spell of looking unbeatable followed by a longer spell of being unspeakable, rinse and repeat. I think he'd be a disaster.

He does have two good FA cup runs on his CV. Maybe he will be a good tournament manager. Also once he does this and England gets knocked out, previous humiliations will look mild in comparison.

 

[Insignificance]

Boris Johnson. He would love to crash out of Euro!!

 

[Judge Jules]

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[gkmacca]

According to some reports Wenger has intimated he'll consider the job if they wait until next summer.

 

[jexykrodic]

According to some reports Wenger has intimated he'll consider the job if they wait until next summer.

Well I for one didn't see that coming...

 

[gkmacca]

Well I for one didn't see that coming...

The thing is he's such a procrastinator he could suck the FA into that vortex of indecision and then spew it back out after months of spinning around. I guess if the gooners have another frustrating season he could end up taking on the England job, although surely the French would be interested, too?

 

[jexykrodic]

although surely the French would be interested, too?

*Gallic shrug*

 

[Squiggles]

Why wouldn't Wenger want it? Leaves the Arse, poss.finds himself at a loose end, highly paid job offer involving pressure at tournament time but very little in between, and lots of foreign travel. I suspect he's also pretty vain and, if so, the kudos of managing a country would particularly appeal to him.

Wenger is on record saying be finds international football boring and has little interest in it. I'd be very surprised if he was interested.

 

[manwithnoname]

Every time I see that Pardew dance, I am almost entirely consumed with hate.

 

[Judge Jules]

Wenger is on record saying be finds international football boring and has little interest in it. I'd be very surprised if he was interested.

Fair enoughski - never knew that. Somebody from one of the betting companies was saying there's been money on him this morning, but the whole thing is still up in the air (especially as Southgate's apparently said no) so maybe there are a number of folks just having a blind dart at it.

 

[gkmacca]

Wenger is on record saying be finds international football boring and has little interest in it. I'd be very surprised if he was interested.

Well he HAS let the FA know he'll consider it. The sources are very good. But you're right, he's been negative about the idea in the past, but I think one has to now factor in the fact that he's older and maybe feeling less suited to day-today club management for much longer, and is also a bit worn down by the anti-Wenger elements in the support.

 

[gkmacca]

Del Bosque has resigned. Come on Rafa, go for it.

 

[Frogfish]

Wenger is on record saying be finds international football boring and has little interest in it. I'd be very surprised if he was interested.

He's older. People's ambitions and attitudes change. It would be a great position for him now. He knows the PL, knows England and plays good football. He'd now be able to fill in his mental blocks re. defensive players. He gets my vote .. and I see Robbie's too.

 

[FreshRed]

He's older. People's ambitions and attitudes change. It would be a great position for him now. He knows the PL, knows England and plays good football. He'd now be able to fill in his mental blocks re. defensive players. He gets my vote .. and I see Robbie's too.

Wenger's team play without any passion. Technically they are flawless, tactically they play one way (which is nice when it works), but they have no heart. I think England would require too much training time to get his methods working (Arse often starts slowly) and would be mentally just as weak as they are now.

Rafa is a good shout for any 6-8 game tournament.

 

[Gary25]

I actually think Wenger and England are perfect for each other.

 

[Gary25]

He's older. People's ambitions and attitudes change. It would be a great position for him now. He knows the PL, knows England and plays good football. He'd now be able to fill in his mental blocks re. defensive players. He gets my vote .. and I see Robbie's too.

Spot on.

 

[Gary25]

For all his faults, Wenger would undoubtedly command the respect of the England players and that goes a long way.

 

[Judge Jules]

Somebody said on the radio this morning that he's ruled himself out. Mind you, it might have been Alan "Five Bellies" Brazil and he barely knows which way round to sit on the lavvy.

 

[mark1975]

Nah he's just arrowing in on the purpose of competition, if you take comfort in being a 'plucky' loser then all you really have to do is delete the word 'plucky' to get to the nub. Losing is just plain losing whether it's put down to population, talent, money, training, hard luck, poor management etc etc

It's like celebrating Liverpool's efforts in a losing final, pointless and soon forgotten.

I posted well before the Euro's that we would spend the Summer listening to other countries fans sneering at the England team and laughing at the English fans on here when we inevitably got knocked out. Like they think we're all crying into our cornflakes because we didn't win the thing that we were all so clearly sure we were going to win.

As said elsewhere, they need to worry about their own shit. I couldn't give a toss about other teams, although I've backed the other home nations everytime they've played (bar Wales when we played them, obv), because that's what most English fans on here do, I don't see many of us laughing at defeats to the Irish, Scottish or the Welsh in general. Most of the time we root for them. So why doesn't that happen the other way? Why are the Irish fans in particular so vented in their hatred of "us" and our shit team? Why is a small minority of dickheads causing trouble symptomatic of "us". Oh.

It smacks of an inferiority complex, or chip on the shoulder, whatever.

 

[gkmacca]

By the way, have you ever seen Wenger on French tv? He's a completely different character - laughing, joking, he even does comedy sketches, wears silly outfits, it's such a contrast to the dry husk of a man he seems inEngland!

 

[Insignificance]

I thought Hodgsons contract was out this summer anyway ? Did they expect to win the Euro so they would offer him a new one??? They should have sourced out the replacement long ago and avoided some uninspiring interim solution. FA is fucking dimwits!

 

[Judge Jules]

Knowing the FA, they may well have been hoping England would do well enough to justify offering Hodgson a contract extension - not necessarily winning the Euros, but getting to the quarters might have been enough.

Interim solutions don't have to be uninspiring. Witness for example how the Chavs recovered under Hiddink last season, or how well the King did as caretaker when he first took over from Hodgson at LFC, subsequent problems notwithstanding. The right interim appointment can work very well indeed.

 

[HC]

If it could be anyone, for me it'd be Rafa