Dunno, I've always seen Arsenals perennial late season failings as comedic myself.
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Dunno, I've always seen Arsenals perennial late season failings as comedic myself.
Maybe he feels more comfortable around his own French people and can be himself - with the English you get the feeling he has to do that typical French superiority thing !!!
Regarding the next English manager - no way should it be Rafa as some have stated - the thing that is being pointed out most on the news is that successive England managers playing players out of their natural positions - and you can guarantee Rafa doing the same thing - we all know he will.
I tell you what though - Alan Shearer is taking every opportunity on the BBC to advertise himself as a potential candidate !!!
I don't agree about Rafa. He was forever rotating the side but I don't remember him often picking players out of position in the process, and he'd be just the man for winning knockout tournaments.
The latter is the reason I've always been surprised that he hasn't been linked with more national teams.
I suppose he may think he has a shot at the Spanish job at some point & his agent advises suitors of this before any interest firms up.
The problem is the media. Wales and Northern Ireland weren't Given the same coverage in the press and on the radio as what England were. It happens in other sports too, I was watching Ireland v France in the six nations and a French guy I know was amazed at the BBC commentary, he thought they were being very pro-France in that particular match.
Weeks before any championship the newspapers are filled with headlines claiming the England team will be favourites and whatnot so by the time the first round of matches are over everyone else is thoroughly sick of hearing about the England team.
It's just like how sky have been attached to man utd's teat for all these years. I bet you find that annoying, don't you?
The half time coverage yesterday for the Wales game was ridiculous, it consisted of the pundits bemoaning England's defeat. If I was a Wales fan I'd have been livid!
It's bloody annoying. I reckon if the media was a bit more generous towards the other home nations we would be a bit more sympathetic.
Sky sports had them as fourth favourites
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...final-who-will-roy-hodgsons-side-need-to-beat
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...final-who-will-roy-hodgsons-side-need-to-beat
That TV discussion wasn't typical of the media coverage I've seen. There was plenty of praise and support for what the Welsh have done even before yesterday.
And if you really believe that last bit you posted, I have a bridge in London I'd love to sell you. 😎
But isn't this what countries do? I get your point about certain fractions of the press, but generally most countries have sections of their own media who champion their own cause. We're one of the most media heavy countries in the World, so of course the coverage is more widespread and accessable.
When people see stuff written by the English press about Liverpool, they're quick to dismiss the writer and largely ignore it, or take it with a pinch of salt. When the same media are writing about England, it's suddenly taken at face value and the opinion is taken as representative of England as a whole.
Alot of the bile of late on here towards English Football, has been directed towards the average Joe, or in our case, the average English poster on here. I don't know any English fans who ever think we will go to a tournament and be a success, we certainly don't make grand statements about what we're going to achieve, yet the non-English contingent seem to be looking for something that isn't there - from taking the moral highground over a minority of idiots causing trouble, to accusing the press of over-fawning about the team, to more or less suggesting that we fans are blinkered about the team. Many English posters on here have openly stated they don't give a fuck about the national team, and as I said, I don't recall anyone here championing the cause too much, certainly not to the extent that warrants the scrutiny that's happened on here over the last few weeks.
Like I said, I back the other home nations. Wales fucked me off a couple of weeks ago with their antics prior to their game against us, and again with their OTT reactions to our defeat. I'm not bitter about it though, I watched them last night, rooted for them and was delighted they won. I'm not looking for a verbal scrap with the other home nations, so I don't know why others are looking for a spat with us, because of what? History? It just seems to be alot of scrapping around for reasons to have a go, like it's customary. Some of our fans might not have covered themselves in glory in France, but Christ, if you want to look for a reason for any hostility, then have a look closer to home.
The whole of the England set-up including the players and (some) fans were sucked in by the qualifying run. When it came to the tournament proper; the results and quality of performances were not far removed from Brazil 2014. I've no doubt, the team, Hodgson and the FA expected to have a good tournament - but it's really time they pulled their heads out of their collective arses. The writing was on the wall a long time ago and confirmed when Hodgson picked a squad that left out players in form (Drinkwater) in favour of reputations (Wilshere).
The system in this country is not geared towards international success nor is it even geared towards European success for the top club sides. It's geared towards money. The game in England has just started turning over a whole lot more money now thanks to the TV deal and that in turn makes it a lot harder to put in place the grass roots changes and infrastructure needed.
The top sides in this country now set the tone of the national side and it's style of play, the new coach may as well go with flow rather than try (and likely fail) to impose his own ideas on the squad.
Why are you coughing it says should be...
4th favourite isn't favourites is it?
It's A bit like claiming Wales are a better team than Spain as they've gone further or England who beat them.
You're reading things into stuff that isn't there in the first place.
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Here's Ferdinand complaining about the hype before the big tournaments:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ll-england-at-major-tournaments-a7054706.html
This is the same hype that does everyone else's heads in. I remember after the match when Beckham scored from a free kick against Greece to secure qualification for a world cup (I can't remember which one, 2002 perhaps) the media was all "a David Beckham special". It was his 12th attempt. Hearing this on the radio etc puts your head away.
The BBC usually has separate coverage for Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland, which is quite partisan, while the England BBC coverage aims for balance. That seems fair enough to me. ITV, on the other hand, is brazenly England-obsessed, partly because it wants to keep its contract with the FA.
I sense your having a bit of trouble backing up your point. An article from an ex England player after the event about togetherness and a perception from 15 years ago isn't proving anything is it?
Best you hold on to your belief if it helps. It's not real world.
Huh? The ex player talked about the hype, the same hype that I said the rest of us get sick of listening too. I also used the Beckham free kick as an example of said hype.
Here's some more hype from this year:
"What an exceptional performance. They took the game to Germany and if England can play that way they shouldn’t fear anyone in the Euros.
"A year ago England would have crumbled but they have changed the system and threw the subs on. A lot of things have worked."
"Expectations will rise but why not. There are a lot of players missing but they were brilliant.
"Take a bow lads."
I'm sure you know what you're arguing, I don't. It doesn't mention they'll be favourites as you suggested way back and the nearest we've got is 4th favourite and even that was speculation.
When I said favourites, I didn't mean odds on favourites, I was talking about the hype machine putting England in the mix with Italy, Germany et al.
Sorry I didn't make that clear enough.
Crouch on the wing stands out.
He played Crouch on the wing in one game and not even the whole game.
I don't remember him playing a single defender out of position. He played defensive mids as defensive mids, central mids as central mids and so on. He played Kuyt as right wing back a few times but that was because Kuyt is Kuyt and could play in every position.
The Rafa rotation myth. Fergie rotated more than him for example.
So many Rafa myths that the media invented that fans believe is the truth.
I don't remember him playing a single defender out of position. He played defensive mids as defensive mids, central mids as central mids and so on. He played Kuyt as right wing back a few times but that was because Kuyt is Kuyt and could play in every position.
The Rafa rotation myth. Fergie rotated more than him for example.
So many Rafa myths that the media invented that fans believe is the truth.
FACT!
Meanwhile back in England, Spud a dog owned by the a neighbour to the Hodgson family is offered muffins by one of Roy Hodgsons Grandchildren
Sky Sports are carrying a story claiming Stevie is in talks over an England coaching role.
Interesting. Does that suggest they've already picked someone out and he asked for this? If so, who could it be?
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