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I know most people here don't like them, but I think either of the following would make really a really good England manager:
(1) Alan Pardew
(2) Harry Redknapp
Being a good international manager isn't really about training a team Klopp-style or buying youngsters a la Wenger.
It's about putting together a solid unit from the bits and pieces available to you, having a good tactical sense and a game plan that isn't pretty but works, and instilling an intense but unsustainable team spirit / siege mentality over the course of a tournament.
It doesn't matter if you are a total asshole who drives everyone crazy after a few months.
Rafa would be great too!
(1) Alan Pardew
(2) Harry Redknapp
Being a good international manager isn't really about training a team Klopp-style or buying youngsters a la Wenger.
It's about putting together a solid unit from the bits and pieces available to you, having a good tactical sense and a game plan that isn't pretty but works, and instilling an intense but unsustainable team spirit / siege mentality over the course of a tournament.
It doesn't matter if you are a total asshole who drives everyone crazy after a few months.
Rafa would be great too!
Just imagine if he could get us to 4th in a tournament. Paradise.
That's a long name, not a big name. Schoolboy error.
Does that mean I'm qualified for the job then?
There is a quite amazing amount of football journo support for Allardyce, who apparently has an England release clause in his contract (!)
Most of the media chat about the England job is along the lines of "well, I couldn't have done any worse", so in that sense Allardyce is in with a chance. There is also a vid on BBC with Shearer throwing his hat in the ring on those lines.
I think some people need to calm down a bit.
I think some people need to calm down a bit.
I think it's pretty obvious that there aren't any really stand-out, available, obvious candidates.
Yep. Wanted: 'someone to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear'.
I think you do need a person with a rep whose club management days are waning to get the players organized in the short spells he has with them. I think the 'young gun with time to develop a team' option is a false hope due to the demands of the Premier League.
I hope by that it's meant deportation.
You have to admire his chutzpah. Parachuted in on a short-term deal to rescue Sunderland from what seemed a very possible relegation, and he STILL goes:
"And oh yeah, chuck in a release clause in case I'm offered the England job"
If he has indeed insisted on a release clause, that plus the rather surprising amount of public support from within the game, suggests to me his name has been in the hat for some time.
Is that the criteria then ? English & next in line ? No, he really doesn't deserve a chance .. ever.
There'd be no missing that fucking hat.
I don't know. I suspect the towering ego of Sam Allardyce is more to blame, rather than any genuine discussions or promises, but he has been interviewed before apparently. Allardyce himself has mentioned it once or two million times
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English and done ok in PL.
Never been given a chance at a big club.
England went with Capello and some of the football played in 2010 (with a better squad) was woeful and he loads of champsions league / titles.
So, because Capello had won lots of trophies but England were poor under him, the obvious better option to improve our chances of playing well is someone who has "done OK" but never won anything, or managed a big club?
I see.
I know it was years ago, but why did you and logic fall out again?
Don’t think you need to have managed a big club.
international football is different from club football.
Different skill set
Which is why almost every single manager of a top international side has also managed at a high club level
I've said before and I'll say again, give it to Eddie Howe... give him a 4 tournament - whatever happens you have 4 tournaments to mould your team contract. And lets get behind him.
The problem England has, is that the Media expect England to get to the last 4 at least every tournament. Take the pressure off the players by saying the manager is safe regardless, go out and play with no fear.
The problem England has, is that the Media expect England to get to the last 4 at least every tournament. Take the pressure off the players by saying the manager is safe regardless, go out and play with no fear.
No they don't
Yes... they do.
Well I said Howe, which is probably a bit hypocritical seeing as I complained about LFC hiring a promising but similarly inexperienced manager who hadn't yet won anything. But the one difference is that I also said Howe should be appointed with some wise old head as his mentor and sounding board as he grows into the job.
That person needs to have been in big games, and preferably big tournaments, in order to be helpful. I guess Hoddle is the obvious choice for that, although a foreign figure might broaden the mind a bit, so maybe Hiddink.
There's probably also room for adding a second assistant, an ex-England player who carries enough clout to impress the squad, spot potential attitude problems and give a bit of motivation. Gerrard could do that, as could Shearer, seeing as he's so keen to be involved.
That person needs to have been in big games, and preferably big tournaments, in order to be helpful. I guess Hoddle is the obvious choice for that, although a foreign figure might broaden the mind a bit, so maybe Hiddink.
There's probably also room for adding a second assistant, an ex-England player who carries enough clout to impress the squad, spot potential attitude problems and give a bit of motivation. Gerrard could do that, as could Shearer, seeing as he's so keen to be involved.
Howe-Gerrard was Henry Winter's choice too. Or at least he discussed them as options.
It's all just so painfully tedious, hypocritical and circular. very few keep any kind of consistent view, just slag off the incumbent (or recently sacked) and then shout loudly that we need something TOTALLY DIFFERENT next time.
So in the last 20 years we've seen calls for the next manager to be any or some of the following:
A proven winner at club/ international level
Experienced
Young with new ideas
A disciplinarian
A keen tactician
A tub-thumping motivator
And easy-going arm round the shoulder "go out and enjoy yourselves" type
Foreign
English
A respected figure
A young figure & a respected figure
Tony Pulis
That's some CV, especially the requirement for a Tony Pulis bit.
It's the Impossible Job!
Whenever a new foreign darling comes into the Premiership - like Conte, or Mourinho before him - we get a detailed analysis of his controlling, hyper attention to detail ways, and awe-inspired descriptions of his astonishing techniques, detailed video analyses, motvational signs on the dressing room walls, and labelling food groups at the breakfast table. WOWWWWW! It's like something from the future!
Then Hodgson fails miserably and obviously, and Dan Ashworth's derided as a stats and data-obssessed automaton, and all of the motivational posters and detail of the footballing DNA of England is a load of old nonsense and he should just bore off with his laptop and i-pads.
I don't think they do, but they expect better than the shite served up in this tournament and they expect better than a limp exit to Iceland, which is realistic.
Eh?
What about Joachim Low.
Last four jobs before becoming joining the national team:
Karlsruhe SC (relegated)
Adanaspor (sacked)
Tirol Innsbruck (bankrupt)
Fk Austria Wien
Boom he's a World Cup winner.
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