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Fernando Llorente

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Llorente is a big guy but is a great footballer and shouldn't be compared to Carroll at at imho. We have no chance of getting him though with this saberbollocks or whatever it is they apply to our signings now as he is 27 and wont have any selling on value at the end of his 4 or 5 yr contract. Shame, to think we could of had him instead of Carroll ( even if he was injured at the time so was Carroll )
 
I think we all need to start realising the actual situation we are in. no more huge wages will be spent, and that's the only reason he would join us now over even teams like Spurs. Sad reality, but reality.
 
27 you say.... Meh! I don't get out of bed for anything less than a 24 yr old.













Mind you.... Getting in to bed with a 27 yr old is worth exploring.
 
Also scouting Herrera and Isco.

Slightly off topic (from title) but here's a short clip of Isco's performance in midweek vs Zenit St. Petersburg where he scored twice.

Broke into Malaga's 1st team last season and currently only 20yo.

 
There's no way Rodgers would release someone like Carroll out and then bring in Llorente. He'd have to be weird and mental to do that, and that only happens to Liverpool managers in their third year. Not their third month.
 
There's no way Rodgers would release someone like Carroll out and then bring in Llorente. He'd have to be weird and mental to do that, and that only happens to Liverpool managers in their third year. Not their third month.

The only thing they have in common is that they're tall. Llorente has fantastic feet, and is much more comfortable in possession. Plus his link up play is superb. It's not nearly as mental as you suggest, and if his contract situation means he'd be available at a bargain price, we'd be mad not to be interested.
 
There's no way Rodgers would release someone like Carroll out and then bring in Llorente.

He'd not release somebody who doesn't score, has no technique and is generally poor, for somebody who does score, has great technique and is generally superb? Why not? It seems perfectly sane to me.
 
I think we all need to start realising the actual situation we are in. no more huge wages will be spent, and that's the only reason he would join us now over even teams like Spurs. Sad reality, but reality.

That's a bit dramatic. We are presently in a situation that means we need to reduce the wage bill but that doesn't mean we won't be willing to offer top talent a good salary.

I'd hope that what we will avoid doing is paying players top money to hang around after they've been at their best. For example - nobody would take any issue with paying 160k a week for Gerrard circa 04-08. Nobody in their right mind would pay the 2011 onwards Gerrard that money.
 
Players are unlikely to take a pay cut though. Unless you meant selling them before their contracts are up.
 
That's a bit dramatic. We are presently in a situation that means we need to reduce the wage bill but that doesn't mean we won't be willing to offer top talent a good salary.

I'd hope that what we will avoid doing is paying players top money to hang around after they've been at their best. For example - nobody would take any issue with paying 160k a week for Gerrard circa 04-08. Nobody in their right mind would pay the 2011 onwards Gerrard that money.


But he will be nearly 28 in Jan and everything we have been told by the new regime indicates that we won't be signing players at that age for top dollar - afterall you would expect this to be LLorente's most lucrative contract during his career as he will be at his peak. Amortisation is the buzz word here as his selling on value will have greatly diminished by the end of the proposed contract. So basically whilst we probably could we won't be paying for him.
 
But he will be nearly 28 in Jan and everything we have been told by the new regime indicates that we won't be signing players at that age for top dollar - afterall you would expect this to be LLorente's most lucrative contract during his career as he will be at his peak. Amortisation is the buzz word here as his selling on value will have greatly diminished by the end of the proposed contract. So basically whilst we probably could we won't be paying for him.

The problem isn't his lack of sell on value. It's timing.

We can do these type of deals when we're on the verge of truly competing. Adding him to a midtable side with no financial flexibility makes no sense. Adding a striker at his peak to a young, improving and contending team is perfectly fine.

Context is everything.
 
The problem isn't his lack of sell on value. It's timing.

We can do these type of deals when we're on the verge of truly competing. Adding him to a midtable side with no financial flexibility makes no sense. Adding a striker at his peak to a young, improving and contending team is perfectly fine.

Context is everything.

What about the argument that the right such signing could help us become the latter? We were in transition when we signed Keegan, and Shanks described him as having "ignited" the new team which ushered the glory years in.
 
What about the argument that the right such signing could help us become the latter? We were in transition when we signed Keegan, and Shanks described him as having "ignited" the new team which ushered the glory years in.

Him on his own wouldn't be enough though, and I'd be surprised if we could afford him and something else
 
Thought Llorente was signing a pre contract with Juve in January.Was something on his facebook about this recently.
 
The relationship between Fernando Llorente and Marcelo Bielsa at Athletic Bilbao deteriorated further on Monday morning after a row which saw the out of favour centre-forward leave training early.
Llorente, who was a late substitute as Los Leones fell to a disappointing 2-0 defeat at Basque rivals Real Sociedad on Saturday, was training with the reserves and youths Monday morning at Bilbao’s Lezama facility.


In an incident filmed by Basque TV station EITB, Bielsa halted a practice game to criticise what he had seen. After an exchange of views, Llorente walked off the pitch alone, and the session finished without him. The Spanish international later left the training ground without speaking to reporters.


Llorente, who has less than a year remaining on his current contract, was linked last summer with a move to Juventus but the Serie A champions did not match his €36 million release clause. Although the player said last month he was looking forward to playing for Athletic this season, he pointedly refused to commit his longer term future to the club.


Amid this unsettling situation Bielsa has used the powerful centre-forward sparingly so far this campaign, with six substitute appearances across La Liga and the Europa League bringing one goal.

Athletic have started poorly and currently sit 17th in the Primera Division table, with just one victory from their first six games.
 
If they're still in a serious battle for survival come Jan, we'd be wise to try and make a move for either Muniain or Herrera (esp if we don't feel we can get Sahin).
 
Saw on twitter yesterday that we'll be in for him in january. Lets hope its right.
 
I know a dog that has a twitter account, mate... Wouldn't put too much stock in what's being twitted. 🙂
 
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