You cant make any sort of meaningful comparison of their Liverpool careers using Suarez time at Barcelona. You might as well say Thiago is ahead of Henderson because he won so many league titles in Germany.
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You cant make any sort of meaningful comparison of their Liverpool careers using Suarez time at Barcelona. You might as well say Thiago is ahead of Henderson because he won so many league titles in Germany.
I am reposting a post that I made in April 2018. This is a comparison of Suarez's peak season for us against Salah's peak season for us until March 6, 2018. They both have similar number of appearances .
"Salah has scored 32 goals in 38 appearances
Number of games with zero goals: 12
Number of games with one goal: 20
Number of games with two goals: 6
Goals against top 6 teams: 7
Suarez scored 31 goals in 37 appearances
Number of games with zero goals: 19
Number of games with one goal: 9
Number of games with two goals: 6
Number of games with three goals: 2
Number of games with four goals: 1
Goals against top 6 teams: 4 (3 against Spurs)
Suarez was more explosive and erratic. Of course, Salah is not the creative force of nature Suarez was but what struck me is his goal-scoring consistency. He has scored one goal in 20 games this season including against top teams.
There are gaps in Suarez's goal scoring in the second half of the season, particularly against top teams. As brilliant as Suarez was, Salah is something else. "
I don't think Suarez played in a weaker attack compared to Salah. Rodgers sold Carroll and crafted our attack to be centered around Suarez. The trifecta of SAS was something else that season. Suarez had Coutinho and Gerrard supplying him. Gerrard set piece delivery was particularly brilliant during that season.
Suarez only played 33 games that season not 37 which makes his 31 incredible.
I don't get how you think the attacks/teams are comparable ... This current team just has multiple ways to destroy you (well, before the last 1-2 months) - the FBs, no time on the ball (pressing), little meaningful possession (unless City) and the best player on the planet not named Salah (Mane).
If you could pick one of these attacks for a season, is there ever a situation where you wouldn't take Salah's Liverpool over Suarez's? Its' not even close imo ...
What about assists out of curiosity those seasons? For example, I remember when we smashed Arsenal, Suarez didn't score but he was devastating ... I don't remember the 2nd game against the Mancs - the 1st one we won 1-0 with Studge when Suarez was out. I also think he was banned the 1st few games - so 37 games isn't possible.
In the 2014 season we scored 101 goals, that team was lethal going forward. Last season we scored 85, in Salahs record breaking season we scored 84. Im not sure how you would think the 2014 attack wasnt even close the current side, thats simply a myth.
As for assist, Suarez had 23 in 110 matches (0.20) Salah has 31 in 129 (0.24)
So if you could pick one of these attacks for a season, you're picking Suarez's over Salah's?
As for assists, I meant for that season (as that was Peekay's comparison)
Im saying the idea that they are not even close and Suarez carried some scrub team on his back is just ridiculous hyperbole to suit a specific argument. The 2014 team was awful at the back but they were considerably more prolific than the current team.
It wasn't a scrub team - but he took that team to another level ... He made that team tick ...
I think he missed what 4 games? 5 games? We scored how many in those games? 5? 6? (I remember a few 1-0s and 2-1 but memory is going)
That is all I'm saying - Suarez made that team unplayable.
I am just reposting a post I made in April 2018. I did not look at assists at that time. In terms of attack, Rodgers Liverpool in the title challenge season was no slouch. Suarez was the catalyst but that 2013-2014 attack was incredibly effective - Coutinho, Sturridge, Sterling, Gerrard - all were in inspired form.
It is my opinion that the LFC attack of Suarez's peak (2013-2014) season is comparable to and maybe slightly better than LFC attack of Salah's peak (2017-2018) season. I think "It is not even close" is a bit of a hyperbole.
Suarez made 37 appearances in the 2013 2014 season. 33 in the premier league, 4 in the FA cup / League Cup.
I understand why people prefer Suarez's artistry and explosiveness, but in my mind, Salah is the greatest signing we have made in the premier league era.
Where would you place coutinho? Has to be up there because of what he became and the return on investment, which allowed us to add the final two key bits of the puzzle ...
I don't really know why I think this. I just get the feeling that he wants to do his business in sunny Spain. Same for Mane. Of all our superstars these two stand out as I feel they would be completely OK with jumping ship. VVD, Allison, Robbo and obviously TAA seem routed to the city. I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if one went to Real and the other went to Barca before the start of 21/22. Both would fetch mega bucks. That's when Mbappe steps up.... Maybe ;-)
EDIT: What's their contracts looking like? A couple of years each I think...
EDIT:2 - Just found this. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/liverpool-fc/contracts/
Bobby, VVD, Salah, Mane, Fabs all end 2023. Mane's contract (if true) is shite. Ox is getting more. FFS.
EDIT: What's their contracts looking like? A couple of years each I think...
EDIT:2 - Just found this. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/liverpool-fc/contracts/
Bobby, VVD, Salah, Mane, Fabs all end 2023. Mane's contract (if true) is shite. Ox is getting more. FFS.
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this explains a lot doesn't it ? - you have the players that are always available and then you get the ones that never seem to play and are on more money. Right now - I would pay Gini more than what we are giving Ox and Kieta combined. From his point of view - it's just not really fair is it ?
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