In the Suarez is best camp, huh? 😉
Fowler v Suarez
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Literally!
Torres in his prime was better than Suarez. Fowler was even better than Torres.
1. Rush
2. Fowler
3. Owen
4. Torres
5. Suarez
6. Sean Dundee
2. Fowler
3. Owen
4. Torres
5. Suarez
6. Sean Dundee
What the fuck are you talking about?
At their best, as strikers, I think Torres is the pick of all of them. Suarez had one brilliant season and signs of brilliance the one before, so its just not enough to justify him placing over the other two.
I don't think we'll see as good finishing out of him this season if he stays, but he can be just as dangerous if the rest of our attack is more productive.
In terms of overall impact to the team, I actually think Suarez is the most influential at his best, because of his stamina and workrate off the ball. In so many ways he's been a cunt, but he's a worker on the pitch as much as he's an artist, and that's the least cunty thing about him. If he stayed and wasn't arsed to go that extra mile, we'd lose so much from him.
I wish instead there was some debate about who the best player on our team was.
I don't think we'll see as good finishing out of him this season if he stays, but he can be just as dangerous if the rest of our attack is more productive.
In terms of overall impact to the team, I actually think Suarez is the most influential at his best, because of his stamina and workrate off the ball. In so many ways he's been a cunt, but he's a worker on the pitch as much as he's an artist, and that's the least cunty thing about him. If he stayed and wasn't arsed to go that extra mile, we'd lose so much from him.
I wish instead there was some debate about who the best player on our team was.
Can I respectfully disagree with that a little, Spion?
Robbie is one of my favourite players and, as Ross says at the start, a true Liverpool great. His movement was as good as Rushie but I don't think he was close in positioning. Rush always got to the spot where he would score - commentators used to go on about how "the ball always bounces for him".
He wasn't a footballer like Robbie but, for mine, the best positioning striker and best finisher I've ever seen.
Suarez is a better footballer than either, IMO. But he needs to repeat last year this season and again next season to be comparable as a goal scorer.
I don't really have much to disagree with there, not even respectfully.
Using Carragher's reasoning that the shittier the team is the greater the achievement it is to be the best player in it, it would have to be Suarez, because Rushie was playing with Barnes and Beardo and Robbie was getting plenty of service in Evans' team. Using saner reasoning, on the other hand, it's hard not to rate Rush as the best of the three because he was the most clinical.
If I had to pick a pure goalscorer then yes, it would have to be Rushie. If I were picking the best all-round footballer, Wizardry's most recent and excellent post says it all IMHO.
Where I would slightly disagree with Wizardry, Farkmaster and one or two others is over the significance (or lack of it) of the fact that Suarez has had just the one good scoring season for us so far. For me there's ample evidence from his pre-LFC career to reach an overall judgment.
Where I would slightly disagree with Wizardry, Farkmaster and one or two others is over the significance (or lack of it) of the fact that Suarez has had just the one good scoring season for us so far. For me there's ample evidence from his pre-LFC career to reach an overall judgment.
For Ajax and for Uruguay.
Agree, Torres in full flight in 2007-2009 was just unbelievable sight to watch and against top top clubs in big games.
He had it all, the looks, the locks, and the LFC armband.The only tragedy was we didn't win a single trophy in that time and his ultimate betrayal. It's undoubted that Suarez is a great player but still have no idea how he compares with rest since he plays for a 7th placed time but Fowler still boss of Suarez.
Rubans, Youve been here since 2007. GET A FUCKING AVATAR YOU LAZY ONCE A FORTNIGHT POSTING BASTARD!!
I'd like to use Gerrard's endorsement of Suarez (the best he's ever played with) to argue the case against Torres, but then I remember his whatever Messi can do, Joe Cole can do corker.
I'm still lurking, actually joined in 2005 and was on Koptalk before Dunc started charging to use forums and that was only after getting reinstated twice for being banned by DJSydney.
Im going to start charging anyone without an avatar. Sort it young man.
Hmmm, Uruguay is a good point that I've probably ignored.
I find it hard to rate scoring in the Dutch league since that Chelsea striker - was it Kezman or something. Insane goal tally in Holland, got about 3 for Chelsea.
I know what you mean, but the same could have been said about Ruud van Kneesstillsore.
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