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Liverpool tempted by move for Van der Vaart
24th Apr 2010 - Media Watch

Liverpool are considering a summer move for Rafael van der Vaart, having been offered the chance to sign the Holland international by Real Madrid.

Club officials met in the Spanish capital before Liverpool's Europa League semi?final against Atlético Madrid on Thursday, with Real taking the opportunity to try to offload several players deemed surplus to requirements by the club president, Florentino Perez. Liverpool were interested in Van der Vaart, who was offered despite forcing his way into Manuel Pellegrini's plans this season, in a deal that would see Real recoup much of the €13m they paid Hamburg in 2008.

Whether Rafael Benítez envisages a role for the 27-year-old midfielder in his plans is not clear and there are several issues for the club to address before pursuing a deal for the former Ajax favourite. Liverpool's interest, however, has been registered.
 
On the BBC Gossip page it suggested 6M for VDV. That would be a great bit of business and if he's available, we should definitely sign him.
 
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On the BBC Gossip page it suggested 6M for VDV. That would be a great bit of business and if he's available, we should definitely sign him.
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In the few games i've seen of RM, he's looked quite useful. At that price we'd be crazy not to be interested.
 
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On the BBC Gossip page it suggested 6M for VDV. That would be a great bit of business and if he's available, we should definitely sign him.
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He'd probably just sit on the bench all the time if Benitez bought him.

Where would you play VDV, Keni?

As for Danny Wilson... 'one for the future', I assume?
 
I suppose it all depends what kind of formation we stick with next season. He could play in Gerrard's position or out wide.

Wenger has managed fairly well in these last few years by buying cheap'ish attacking midfielders because they're technically good, generally quite versatile and creative.

Funnily, we're quite well stocked in the wide positions right now as we have about 5 or 6 players for the wings, however we'll almost certainly see a bit of a clear out in the summer, so we'll need to build the squad back up again with quality and I don't think we'll have a huge warchest to do that with.
 
VDV is destined to play for Liverpool. I've never seen so many rumours about one player joining our club. It's been every summer for the last 5/6 years. I hope we sign him.
 
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On the BBC Gossip page it suggested 6M for VDV. That would be a great bit of business and if he's available, we should definitely sign him.
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He'd probably just sit on the bench all the time if Benitez bought him.

Where would you play VDV, Keni?

As for Danny Wilson... 'one for the future', I assume?
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Yeah- personally I think it is a mistake for him to join us at this stage in his development. He'll not get a sniff for us for a few seasons at least, just as he's getting a decent amount of starts for Rangers.
 
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On the BBC Gossip page it suggested 6M for VDV. That would be a great bit of business and if he's available, we should definitely sign him.
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He'd probably just sit on the bench all the time if Benitez bought him.

Where would you play VDV, Keni?

As for Danny Wilson... 'one for the future', I assume?
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Yeah- personally I think it is a mistake for him to join us at this stage in his development. He'll not get a sniff for us for a few seasons at least, just as he's getting a decent amount of starts for Rangers.
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I read that even if he signs for us this summer he will go straight back to Rangers on a season long loan to continue his development
 
I wonder, mate. Carra coming to the twilight of his career, Agger either injured or needed at LB half the time, Skittles still with rough edges to his game, Kyrgiakos not as consistent as one would like...Wilson may well go back on loan or start in the ressies, but I'm not sure he'd necessarily be stuck there all that long.

Where Thunderfart is concerned - good signing if it comes off, and if he produces his best for us. We need options out wide (where our existing ones don't really convince me) and, as others have said, he can play down the middle too as needed.
 
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On the BBC Gossip page it suggested 6M for VDV. That would be a great bit of business and if he's available, we should definitely sign him.
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He'd probably just sit on the bench all the time if Benitez bought him.

Where would you play VDV, Keni?

As for Danny Wilson... 'one for the future', I assume?
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Yeah- personally I think it is a mistake for him to join us at this stage in his development. He'll not get a sniff for us for a few seasons at least, just as he's getting a decent amount of starts for Rangers.
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I read that even if he signs for us this summer he will go straight back to Rangers on a season long loan to continue his development
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If you clickl the link Count Smith says that definitely won't be happening.
 
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If you clickl the link Count Smith says that definitely won't be happening.
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Fair enough Doc.
Smith was obviously reacting there to the same reports I had previously read.

It does all seem a bit underwhelming.
 
So what kind of player is this Wilson chap?

Obviously we've also got Kelly, who's impressed when given the chance, Ayala who seems to be rated quite highly (although I don't know there) and San Jose who has done pretty well out on loan at Bilbao. And I suppose Mavinga as well if he's seen as more of a CB.

I'm not sure whether we should be buying in for the reserves and as the doc said, if he's on the verge of getting first team football, we'd be better of loaning him out somewhere.
 
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So what kind of player is this Wilson chap?

Obviously we've also got Kelly, who's impressed when given the chance, Ayala who seems to be rated quite highly (although I don't know there) and San Jose who has done pretty well out on loan at Bilbao. And I suppose Mavinga as well if he's seen as more of a CB.

I'm not sure whether we should be buying in for the reserves and as the doc said, if he's on the verge of getting first team football, we'd be better of loaning him out somewhere.
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He's one you'd stick in the 'cultured' pile. Likes to play the ball on the deck. Big enough lad, but never going to be an arial monster. Still prone to rash errors (was sent off in the CIS Cup final for a similar challenge to that which gave Utd a peno against us), but that isn't surprising for one so young.

He's definitely a very good prospect, who's been attracting the attention of Citeh and Arse scouts for a few years.
 
He sounds like young Scottish Agger. Not sure if it's our most pressing concern, but what sort of fee would they be asking for?
 
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He sounds like young Scottish Agger. Not sure if it's our most pressing concern, but what sort of fee would they be asking for?
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I'm not sure. Rangers have a history of selling their good young players for peanuts. They sold Ross McCormack (who Pesam rates very highly) for £400,000 or something, and a player I like very much Burke went for very little money too). That said, I think they see more value in Wilson, so it could be much more, though surely not the £3M I've heard in some quarters.
 
We'd be made not to get Van der Vaart for £6m.

I'd like to see us get either a pacey RM or a decent RB and push Johnson up. I suppose you could keep Maxi as backup (despite him being wank)

Dirk can provide cover for Torres (or even partner him). Then if we went 442, you've got a choice between Masch, Gerrard, Aquailani with Lucas backup. Then VDV or Yossi can play on the left.

We MUST sign a decent left back and another centre forward unless Babel can produce.

That said, I'd love to see Babel and Torres given a run of games up front together.
 
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That said, I'd love to see Babel and Torres given a run of games up front together.
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I think Torres would find Babel's lack of movement and intelligence infuriating to play alongside.

I've given up on Babel ever being good enough, frustrating as it is.
 
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We'd be made not to get Van der Vaart for £6m.

I'd like to see us get either a pacey RM or a decent RB and push Johnson up. I suppose you could keep Maxi as backup (despite him being wank)

Dirk can provide cover for Torres (or even partner him). Then if we went 442, you've got a choice between Masch, Gerrard, Aquailani with Lucas backup. Then VDV or Yossi can play on the left.

We MUST sign a decent left back and another centre forward unless Babel can produce.

That said, I'd love to see Babel and Torres given a run of games up front together.
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Agree with a lot of that, except the idea of pushing Magic further forward. He's not used to playing there and I wouldn't be surprised if he sank without trace, as Degen did when we tried it with him after one or two decent attacking displays from him earlier in the season.
 
If we are interested in VDV, surely it would spell the end for Aquilani here?

I just don't see how we can accomodate VDV, Gerrard and the Italian.
 
I definitely remember threads about it in KT days. Couldn't swear to it but I seem to remember the question being raised again when he left Hamburg.
 
yeah mac, But if he stays at rangers then in a year or two's time we can't afford him. That said, I'd be in favour of some sort of deal that see's us getting him, then loaning him straight back to rangers for a year or so to continue his development. I think we've discussed this briefly before - his progress at the gers has slowed somewhat from his early promise, and right now he's a million miles away from playing regularly for us.

Still, good to see we're going after promising talent that have actually played senior games for a change. And similarly to what united have done with smalling from fulham, we've got him before we can't afford him in a few years time.

I'm shite at quoting with this iPhone too by the way.

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On the BBC Gossip page it suggested 6M for VDV. That would be a great bit of business and if he's available, we should definitely sign him.
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He'd probably just sit on the bench all the time if Benitez bought him.

Where would you play VDV, Keni?

As for Danny Wilson... 'one for the future', I assume?
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Yeah- personally I think it is a mistake for him to join us at this stage in his development. He'll not get a sniff for us for a few seasons at least, just as he's getting a decent amount of starts for Rangers.
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Liverpool target Danny Wilson refuses new Rangers deal
April 28, 2010


The chances of Danny Wilson leaving Rangers this summer appear to have increased following reports that the highly-rated young defender will not sign a new deal at Ibrox.

Liverpool have emerged as favourites to sign Wilson in recent weeks with his current Rangers deal expiring at the end of 2010/2011.

Reports in today's papers claim Rangers have given up hope of holding on to Wilson beyond his current deal which makes it likely he will leave this summer.

Rangers have reportedly held talks with Liverpool over a deal but the Merseyside giants face competition for the youngster from the likes of Aston Villa, Spurs and Manchester City.

The desire to sign Wilson is in line with the current transfer policy of Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez who recently signed Raheem Sterling and is close to a deal for Jonjo Shelvey , two of the hottest prospects in England.

Danny Wilson was named as an IMScouting Player to Watch earlier this month, a full scouting report can be seen here.
 
Player to Watch - Danny Wilson
Club:Glasgow Rangers
Nationality:Scotland
Age:18
Height:1.87 m / 6.14 ft
Weight:79 kg / 173 lbs
Position:Central defender
Appearances 16 -
Goals 1 -
Assists - -

There has been a huge amount of hype surrounding 18-year-old Rangers defender Danny Wilson for over a year now. Despite the fact that very few had seen him play, there were rumours linking the 6.1ft centre back with a move away from Ibrox before he had even played for the SPL champions.


A product of the Rangers youth system, Wilson made his debut in October 2009 in a League Cup match against Dundee. First team opportunities were a little harder to come by until injury problems hit Rangers’ small squad and he was handed a start in a difficult Champions League away match at Unirea Urziceni in November 2009. At 17 Wilson was one of, if not the best, players on the pitch on the night.

Since that match in Romania Wilson has cemented his place in the Rangers first team due to the injury and absences of Algerian central defender Madjid Bougherra. As the Gers storm to another SPL title Wilson has been an assured presence at the heart of the defence. He has hardly put a foot wrong and he has leaned on the experience of David Weir alongside him who is Rangers skipper and about to turn 40.

Wilson is a cultured left-footed defender who knows when to time a tackle and can also pick out great cross field passes. With good physical presence he is good in the air at both ends of the pitch and at Rangers he has been part of a winning side in the league and also picked up experience of the Champions League.

In a short time Wilson has proved his quality at attacking set pieces. He claimed his first senior goal with a towering header in the fifth minute of the 4-1 win at Hearts (see video below). And last night the young defender headed down for Kenny Miller to score the final goal in a 3-1 victory over Aberdeen.

Despite a number of composed performances Wilson did show his inexperience in the League Cup final against St Mirren in March. He was sent off with 19 minutes remaining with a naïve tug on Craig Dargo when Rangers were already a man down.

Aside from this aberration Wislon looks to be level headed for his age as well and those that know him have said he is smart and articulate. This is shown with his leadership skills which have been prominent from a young age. He has captained both the Rangers Under-19 team and the Scotland Under-19 national side and has also been called up to the Scotland Under-21 squad but is yet to play.

His performances in the second half of 2009/2010 are also set to be recognised next month with pundits calling for him to be crowned Young Player of the season in Scotland.

South of the border Wilson has been a constant source of transfer gossip, even before he made his Rangers debut. In recent weeks this has ratcheted up a notch due to Rangers’ financial problems and as his contract expires in 15 months.

Liverpool and Spurs are among the clubs reportedly interested and Martin Bain, the Rangers chief executive, said recently that, "Two English Premiership clubs approached us in January and since then I have had the odd discussion and we have seen people coming along to watch our players and you can see who they are coming along to watch, I can confirm that Liverpool have expressed an interest, but a lot of clubs are keeping abreast of Danny’s situation."

In recent years Rangers have sold Jean-Alain Boumsong and Carlos Cuellar to English clubs and the bottom line is that they cannot afford not to offload him this summer if he does not sign a new deal. Some in Scotland have called on Wilson to stay and learn his trade in the SPL for a few more years.

Famously another cultured Scottish defender, Alan Hansen, moved to Liverpool when he was just 22 and Wilson could probably learn more in the English game and he undoubtedly has the talent to succeed in the Premier League.
 
Wilson is a cultured left-footed defender who knows when to time a tackle and can also pick out great cross field passes. With good physical presence he is good in the air at both ends of the pitch and at Rangers he has been part of a winning side in the league and also picked up experience of the Champions League.

Nice.

Thanks Raf.
 
So what of Ayala and San Jose then? Not good enough?

Do we even look at our squad before we target players?
 
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So what of Ayala and San Jose then? Not good enough?

Do we even look at our squad before we target players?
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I thought San Jose had left?

From what I've seen, IMO Ayala could make it one day, but he's got a way to go yet.
 
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