Cahill for 15m?

[Oncy]

[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39859.msg1090238#msg1090238 date=1271705270]
So Kuyt isn't a striker?

Anyway, try listing the left-backs and left-wingers of those seven clubs and see how it looks. No one is denying we need a striker.

[/quote]Not to Rafa he isnt no.
And why list left wingers and left backs? No one is denying we need a left back or left winger.

 

[Farkmaster]

I think we need a left back just as much as a striker. You simply can't play with such an obvious weakness, you have to start compensating for it constantly and it fucks up the entire team.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=39859.msg1090277#msg1090277 date=1271706076]
I think we need a left back just as much as a striker. You simply can't play with such an obvious weakness, you have to start compensating for it constantly and it fucks up the entire team.
[/quote]Agger can play there as evidenced in the last 2 games. No one can play where Torres does.....well youknowwarramean.

 

[Farkmaster]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39859.msg1090281#msg1090281 date=1271706152]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=39859.msg1090277#msg1090277 date=1271706076]
I think we need a left back just as much as a striker. You simply can't play with such an obvious weakness, you have to start compensating for it constantly and it fucks up the entire team.
[/quote]Agger can play there as evidenced in the last 2 games. No one can play where Torres does.....well youknowwarramean.
[/quote]

We can buy a steady LB that is a massive improvement on Insua, for not very much money. It's a priority, it's just not one that will cost as much.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=39859.msg1090284#msg1090284 date=1271706307]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39859.msg1090281#msg1090281 date=1271706152]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=39859.msg1090277#msg1090277 date=1271706076]
I think we need a left back just as much as a striker. You simply can't play with such an obvious weakness, you have to start compensating for it constantly and it fucks up the entire team.
[/quote]Agger can play there as evidenced in the last 2 games. No one can play where Torres does.....well youknowwarramean.
[/quote]

We can buy a steady LB that is a massive improvement on Insua, for not very much money. It's a priority, it's just not one that will cost as much.
[/quote]No we cant.

 

[manwithnoname]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39859.msg1090287#msg1090287 date=1271706450]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=39859.msg1090284#msg1090284 date=1271706307]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39859.msg1090281#msg1090281 date=1271706152]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=39859.msg1090277#msg1090277 date=1271706076]
I think we need a left back just as much as a striker. You simply can't play with such an obvious weakness, you have to start compensating for it constantly and it fucks up the entire team.
[/quote]Agger can play there as evidenced in the last 2 games. No one can play where Torres does.....well youknowwarramean.
[/quote]

We can buy a steady LB that is a massive improvement on Insua, for not very much money. It's a priority, it's just not one that will cost as much.
[/quote]No we cant.
[/quote]

What? We'd fucking struggle to buy a worse one. It's not like he'd buy Drossena again.

 

[Farkmaster]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39859.msg1090288#msg1090288 date=1271706548]
What? We'd fucking struggle to buy a worse one. It's not like he'd buy Drossena again.
[/quote]

Haha, if anyone was to buy a player back after him catastrophically failing, it'd be Benitez.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39859.msg1090288#msg1090288 date=1271706548]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39859.msg1090287#msg1090287 date=1271706450]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=39859.msg1090284#msg1090284 date=1271706307]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39859.msg1090281#msg1090281 date=1271706152]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=39859.msg1090277#msg1090277 date=1271706076]
I think we need a left back just as much as a striker. You simply can't play with such an obvious weakness, you have to start compensating for it constantly and it fucks up the entire team.
[/quote]Agger can play there as evidenced in the last 2 games. No one can play where Torres does.....well youknowwarramean.
[/quote]

We can buy a steady LB that is a massive improvement on Insua, for not very much money. It's a priority, it's just not one that will cost as much.
[/quote]No we cant.
[/quote]

What? We'd fucking struggle to buy a worse one. It's not like he'd buy Drossena again.
[/quote]I agree we can improve upon him, i agree we could make a massive improvement. But not for 'not very much money'

 

[keniget]

Peek into next seasons squad:

ST: Torres, Jovovic, [Kuyt], [Gerrard], N'Gog

LB: Insua, Aurelio

LW: Yossi, Riera, Babel

All three positions need addressing. As well as others.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=keniget link=topic=39859.msg1090297#msg1090297 date=1271706701]
Peek into next seasons squad:

ST: Torres, Jovovic, [Kuyt], [Gerrard], N'Gog

LB: Insua, Aurelio

LW: Yossi, Riera, Babel

All three positions need addressing. As well as others.
[/quote]Yup. Its good youve put them in the right order too.

 

[keniget]

Thanks

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=keniget link=topic=39859.msg1090302#msg1090302 date=1271706780]
Thanks
[/quote]De nada.

 

[LarryHagman]

LFC Official 2010 off-season priorities;

1. New manager
2. New formation
3. Striker
4. 2 other attacking players
5. Left back
67,940. Centre back

 

[Farkmaster]

I don't know why everyone is so casual about the idea of us going into next season with a LB who is an obvious vulnerability that causes all sorts of problems.

We are talking about someone who has been thrown in at the deep end and drowned. I have some sympathy for him, he shouldn't have been put in the position, but we absolutely need a competent player there.

 

[MaBigTip]

[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=39859.msg1090520#msg1090520 date=1271720442]

NEW OWNERS PRECEDES ALL

LFC Official 2010 off-season priorities;

1. New manager
2. New formation
3. Striker
4. 2 other attacking players
5. Left back
67,940. Centre back



[/quote]

 

[Jürgen4PM]

[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=39859.msg1090117#msg1090117 date=1271691601]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39859.msg1090110#msg1090110 date=1271690632]
We need more than one decent recognised striker, and you or anyone else that says otherwise is talking out of their fucking arses.

There are so many fucking clever smug fucking cocks on here, that think they know the game, but in reality know fuck all it's really not worth the effort

bye

oh and regards


regards
[/quote]

Is that aimed at me?

[/quote]

Are you a "clever smug fucking cock"?

 

[Ryan]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39859.msg1090220#msg1090220 date=1271704129]
We desperately need a striker to play 4-4-2 with or to cover for the super injury prone one we already have.
I agree with Vlad and Sunny almost entirely.
When Torres is out the whole forum heaves a massive sigh/groan. Thats because we all know we have little chance of winning without him in the team.

United - Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Macheda
Chelsea - Drogba, Anelka, Kalou, Sturridge
Arsenal - Van Persie, Bendtner, Eduardo
Tottenham - Crouch, Defoe, Pavyluchenko, Gudjohnson
Aston Villa - Carew, Heskey, Agbonlahor, Delphonso
Manchester City - Bellamy, Santa cruz, Adebayor, Tevez
Liverpool - Torres, Ngog.

We may have the best first choice striker in the world, but every other team in the top 7 can lose THREE strikers before they get to their average youth player.
We have Torres.....then its N'gog.

We need a striker more than any other position.
[/quote]

And 2+2=10

Explain how we got 86 points last year withe the same striking department.
And explain how we got to two champions League Finals without one decent fucking striker.

Another striker would be nice, fine, and fucking dandy, but it's not the absolute fucking nailed on priority some are (rather) hysterically baging on about.

United sold Van Nistelrooy, replaced him with Carrick and won the Champions League. Didn't see anybody bahing on about them being "toothless" then.

We have two or three World Class players, we need more. Preferable attacking ones please.

Oh, and anyone who thinks we "need to play 442" needs their fucking head examined. Or to stop posting on football forums.

 

[darkstarexodus]

At the very least we need a "world class talent" on the wing so Kuyt can be called into service as Torres' deputy. I think N'Gog will continue to develop but, as with Insua, it's unfair on him to throw him in at the deep end like this.

 

[Ryan]

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39859.msg1092102#msg1092102 date=1271995778]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39859.msg1090220#msg1090220 date=1271704129]
We desperately need a striker to play 4-4-2 with or to cover for the super injury prone one we already have.
I agree with Vlad and Sunny almost entirely.
When Torres is out the whole forum heaves a massive sigh/groan. Thats because we all know we have little chance of winning without him in the team.

United - Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Macheda
Chelsea - Drogba, Anelka, Kalou, Sturridge
Arsenal - Van Persie, Bendtner, Eduardo
Tottenham - Crouch, Defoe, Pavyluchenko, Gudjohnson
Aston Villa - Carew, Heskey, Agbonlahor, Delphonso
Manchester City - Bellamy, Santa cruz, Adebayor, Tevez
Liverpool - Torres, Ngog.

We may have the best first choice striker in the world, but every other team in the top 7 can lose THREE strikers before they get to their average youth player.
We have Torres.....then its N'gog.

We need a striker more than any other position.
[/quote]

And 2+2=10

Explain how we got 86 points last year withe the same striking department.
And explain how we got to two champions League Finals without one decent fucking striker.

Another striker would be nice, fine, and fucking dandy, but it's not the absolute fucking nailed on priority some are (rather) hysterically baging on about.

United sold Van Nistelrooy, replaced him with Carrick and won the Champions League. Didn't see anybody bahing on about them being "toothless" then.

We have two or three World Class players, we need more. Preferable attacking ones please.

Oh, and anyone who thinks we "need to play 442" needs their fucking head examined. Or to stop posting on football forums.
[/quote]

BTW Oncy, that wasn't really aimed at you. Yours was just the post I ended up clicking on after reading a whole smorgasbord of the same stuff.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39859.msg1092102#msg1092102 date=1271995778]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39859.msg1090220#msg1090220 date=1271704129]
We desperately need a striker to play 4-4-2 with or to cover for the super injury prone one we already have.
I agree with Vlad and Sunny almost entirely.
When Torres is out the whole forum heaves a massive sigh/groan. Thats because we all know we have little chance of winning without him in the team.

United - Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Macheda
Chelsea - Drogba, Anelka, Kalou, Sturridge
Arsenal - Van Persie, Bendtner, Eduardo
Tottenham - Crouch, Defoe, Pavyluchenko, Gudjohnson
Aston Villa - Carew, Heskey, Agbonlahor, Delphonso
Manchester City - Bellamy, Santa cruz, Adebayor, Tevez
Liverpool - Torres, Ngog.

We may have the best first choice striker in the world, but every other team in the top 7 can lose THREE strikers before they get to their average youth player.
We have Torres.....then its N'gog.

We need a striker more than any other position.
[/quote]

And 2+2=10

Explain how we got 86 points last year withe the same striking department.
And explain how we got to two champions League Finals without one decent fucking striker.

Another striker would be nice, fine, and fucking dandy, but it's not the absolute fucking nailed on priority some are (rather) hysterically baging on about.

United sold Van Nistelrooy, replaced him with Carrick and won the Champions League. Didn't see anybody bahing on about them being "toothless" then.

We have two or three World Class players, we need more. Preferable attacking ones please.

Oh, and anyone who thinks we "need to play 442" needs their fucking head examined. Or to stop posting on football forums.
[/quote]I can't really be anused to argue about it Mr.o'h I just watched us once again lose a game whilst an inept child ran around and got megapwned by the opposition defence. We didn't score. Didn't look like scoring. And yeah we lost again. We may as well be playing with 10 men.
I don't really care if people don't agree. It's just my opinion, but we need a new striker above anything else.

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39859.msg1092113#msg1092113 date=1272006790]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39859.msg1092102#msg1092102 date=1271995778]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39859.msg1090220#msg1090220 date=1271704129]
We desperately need a striker to play 4-4-2 with or to cover for the super injury prone one we already have.
I agree with Vlad and Sunny almost entirely.
When Torres is out the whole forum heaves a massive sigh/groan. Thats because we all know we have little chance of winning without him in the team.

United - Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Macheda
Chelsea - Drogba, Anelka, Kalou, Sturridge
Arsenal - Van Persie, Bendtner, Eduardo
Tottenham - Crouch, Defoe, Pavyluchenko, Gudjohnson
Aston Villa - Carew, Heskey, Agbonlahor, Delphonso
Manchester City - Bellamy, Santa cruz, Adebayor, Tevez
Liverpool - Torres, Ngog.

We may have the best first choice striker in the world, but every other team in the top 7 can lose THREE strikers before they get to their average youth player.
We have Torres.....then its N'gog.

We need a striker more than any other position.
[/quote]

And 2+2=10

Explain how we got 86 points last year withe the same striking department.
And explain how we got to two champions League Finals without one decent fucking striker.

Another striker would be nice, fine, and fucking dandy, but it's not the absolute fucking nailed on priority some are (rather) hysterically baging on about.

United sold Van Nistelrooy, replaced him with Carrick and won the Champions League. Didn't see anybody bahing on about them being "toothless" then.

We have two or three World Class players, we need more. Preferable attacking ones please.

Oh, and anyone who thinks we "need to play 442" needs their fucking head examined. Or to stop posting on football forums.
[/quote]I can't really be anused to argue about it Mr.o'h I just watched us once again lose a game whilst an inept child ran around and got megapwned by the opposition defence. We didn't score. Didn't look like scoring. And yeah we lost again. We may as well be playing with 10 men.
I don't really care if people don't agree. It's just my opinion, but we need a new striker above anything else.
[/quote]

I think what Ryan was saying is that we need another World Class player in attack, it doesn't necessarily have to be a 'striker', though it'd be nice to have one, obv.

However poor N'Gog was last night, and is, half the issue is the fact the kid is isolated, and it doesn't really have much to do with the formation, it's about the players around him not supporting enough and the balance in the centre of midfield which relies too heavily on two DM's. One of them needs to either be better at attacking or given licence to attack more.

And I agree with Ryan re 442, it won't happen and it probably shouldn't happen. How many teams actually play it anyway? 4321 or variations of it, when used correctly, seems the in thing and much more effective these days.

 

[Oncy]

I know what he's saying Mark.
What I'm saying is if we could only afford one player it should be a striker.
Torres averages half a season and we have nothing for the other half.
Like I said I don't want to argue about it. It's just clear as day to me. Ngog is shit. Torres is perma inured. We need more, and all the creativity in the world won't out wide OR at left back won't help that.

 

[Rafiagra]

The problem with having a lone striker is that he has to be something bloody special to be properly effective and while N'gog is pretty good, he's no chance of emulating Torres. The lad needs someone with him.

Then if we are talking about getting another world class striker in, they will know that we play one upfront and that Torres is pretty much an automatic choice when fit, so its a Catch 22.

 

[LarryHagman]

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39859.msg1092102#msg1092102 date=1271995778]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39859.msg1090220#msg1090220 date=1271704129]
We desperately need a striker to play 4-4-2 with or to cover for the super injury prone one we already have.
I agree with Vlad and Sunny almost entirely.
When Torres is out the whole forum heaves a massive sigh/groan. Thats because we all know we have little chance of winning without him in the team.

United - Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Macheda
Chelsea - Drogba, Anelka, Kalou, Sturridge
Arsenal - Van Persie, Bendtner, Eduardo
Tottenham - Crouch, Defoe, Pavyluchenko, Gudjohnson
Aston Villa - Carew, Heskey, Agbonlahor, Delphonso
Manchester City - Bellamy, Santa cruz, Adebayor, Tevez
Liverpool - Torres, Ngog.

We may have the best first choice striker in the world, but every other team in the top 7 can lose THREE strikers before they get to their average youth player.
We have Torres.....then its N'gog.

We need a striker more than any other position.
[/quote]

And 2+2=10

Explain how we got 86 points last year withe the same striking department.
And explain how we got to two champions League Finals without one decent fucking striker.

Another striker would be nice, fine, and fucking dandy, but it's not the absolute fucking nailed on priority some are (rather) hysterically baging on about.

United sold Van Nistelrooy, replaced him with Carrick and won the Champions League. Didn't see anybody bahing on about them being "toothless" then.

We have two or three World Class players, we need more. Preferable attacking ones please.

Oh, and anyone who thinks we "need to play 442" needs their fucking head examined. Or to stop posting on football forums.
[/quote]

To be honest mate, anyone who thinks we should still be playing 4-2-3-1 needs their head examined. Or needs to stop being our Manager.

 

[RolandG]

We surely have enough defenders. Attacking players must be a priority.

 

[Farkmaster]

[quote author=RolandG link=topic=39859.msg1092441#msg1092441 date=1272039453]
We surely have enough defenders. Attacking players must be a priority.
[/quote]

If we have enough defenders, why have we played with Kyrgiakos and Carragher, a CB pairing which unless it's against the odd team which plays physical long ball shit, is not great for our general play. Why have we played with Insua and Agger at LB. Why have we played with Carragher at RB?

 

[manwithnoname]

Anyone who thinks we should play 4-2-3-1 when the 1 is fucking Eggnog is a twat

 

[doctor_mac]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39859.msg1092472#msg1092472 date=1272047788]
Anyone who thinks we should play 4-2-3-1 when the 1 is fucking Eggnog is a twat
[/quote]

That's fair enough.

 

[spider-Neil]

we have a cautious manager who has cautious tactics, the main thing for him is we keep it tight first and anything that happens above and beyond that, happens. I can absolutely see why he would want a solid defense first and foremost. for whatever ever reason the defense has been all over the fucking place this season, last season we only got beaten twice, this season we have been losing for fun often conceeding sloppy goal (the midweek goal was a fucking joke). sorting out our defense carries as much weight as sorting out the attack but the first position he should look at in defense is left back not CB.

 

[doctor_mac]

Looks pretty certain that we're signing Danny Wilson from Rangers.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/scottish/walter-smith-set-to-torpedo-wilson-liverpool-deal-14779955.html