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Bruce: We only paid £4m for Turner

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Hansern

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Makes you wonder what the fuck we were doing when we tried to sign him??!!!! Getting him instead of Stavros Flatley would have made a HUGE difference. For 2 mill more we could have had him, fucking hell.



Steve Bruce has revealed Sunderland paid Hull City just £4million for centre-back Michael Turner - and feels he is "the signing of the season".


Bruce has been impressed with Turner since his arrival from the Tigers at the end of the summer transfer window.

The fee the Black Cats paid was initially undisclosed but has recently been revealed to be much lower than the £12million Hull publicly valued the 26-year-old at in the summer.

The reason for the drop in price became clearer following the publication of an alarming set of accounts at Hull last month - and Bruce accepts he got a bargain.

He said: "We were patient. It's out there now in the public domain, we paid £4million for him.

"For me he is arguably the signing of the season for that sort of money.

"At the time Hull were desperate for money and we knew that, so we obviously acted.

"Usually transfers are paid over 12 months but we paid it one hit. We thought it was going to be worth that."

Turner was put on standby for England's friendly against Brazil in Qatar last weekend by manager Fabio Capello.

He was ultimately not required but Bruce feels it is only a matter of time before he is called up, possibly in time for the World Cup.

Bruce added: "There is always somebody that comes from nowhere to make it.

"I won't be surprised if it is Michael the way he has been playing. He has been terrific, so he will be a big loss this weekend."
 
[quote author=rage link=topic=37305.msg992769#msg992769 date=1258669479]
we had 4 million.
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Italian Lira maybe.....
 
So why, when Rafa had clearly made overtures to Hull about Turner, did we not buy him?
 
we wanted more than was offered for voronin and the greek and countless number of kids we no doubt bought cost well over 2 million.

we didn't buy him because bruce was on this occasion a better haggler. i doubt rafa felt he could have bought him for 4 million.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=37305.msg992784#msg992784 date=1258669929]
Brown valued him way above 4m when Rafa tried to buy him.

No?
[/quote]No! It doesn't fit Rage's agenda.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=37305.msg992778#msg992778 date=1258669674]
So why, when Rafa had clearly made overtures to Hull about Turner, did we not buy him?


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Maybe we couldn't afford to pay Hull 4M in one go?
 
That greek bloke was signed for 1.5m so i think that tells you the ball park we were playing in 4 million was probably too much.
 
The talk was 12m or something crazy. I can remember something about Rafa declaring interest but the price was too high. And then all went quiet. Who knows? It isn't a very good stick to beat Rafa with though.
 
He probably would of chosen to go to Sunderland over us anyway. At 26 it would have been a brave call for him to come here when he may well of been 4th choice.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37305.msg992826#msg992826 date=1258674747]
He probably would of chosen to go to Sunderland over us anyway. At 26 it would have been a brave call for him to come here when he may well of been 4th choice.
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He'd have jumped at the chance to come to us.
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37305.msg992826#msg992826 date=1258674747]
He probably would of chosen to go to Sunderland over us anyway. At 26 it would have been a brave call for him to come here when he may well of been 4th choice.
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He'd have jumped at the chance to come to us.
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We'll never know i guess Doc.

It wouldn't be the first time that a player has opted for a lesser club in order to play 1st team Football though.
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37305.msg992826#msg992826 date=1258674747]
He probably would of chosen to go to Sunderland over us anyway. At 26 it would have been a brave call for him to come here when he may well of been 4th choice.
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He'd have jumped at the chance to come to us.
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Yes I think he would have to of had a serious lack of belief if he thought 'Yeah, im not that good so i wont make it at anfield & probably be 4th choice, cos im crap me'.
 
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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37305.msg992826#msg992826 date=1258674747]
He probably would of chosen to go to Sunderland over us anyway. At 26 it would have been a brave call for him to come here when he may well of been 4th choice.
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He'd have jumped at the chance to come to us.
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We'll never know i guess Doc.

It wouldn't be the first time that a player has opted for a lesser club in order to play 1st team Football though.


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Not often mate.
 
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[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=37305.msg992829#msg992829 date=1258674857]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37305.msg992826#msg992826 date=1258674747]
He probably would of chosen to go to Sunderland over us anyway. At 26 it would have been a brave call for him to come here when he may well of been 4th choice.
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He'd have jumped at the chance to come to us.
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We'll never know i guess Doc.

It wouldn't be the first time that a player has opted for a lesser club in order to play 1st team Football though.


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Not often mate.
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*coughs* Sami.

Like i said though you may well be right on this mate.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=37305.msg992829#msg992829 date=1258674857]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37305.msg992826#msg992826 date=1258674747]
He probably would of chosen to go to Sunderland over us anyway. At 26 it would have been a brave call for him to come here when he may well of been 4th choice.
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He'd have jumped at the chance to come to us.
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Is the correct answer.
 
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=37305.msg992817#msg992817 date=1258674102]
That greek bloke was signed for 1.5m so i think that tells you the ball park we were playing in 4 million was probably too much.
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1.5m + Nemeth for a year on loan. A deal that suggests money was tight.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=37305.msg992778#msg992778 date=1258669674]
So why, when Rafa had clearly made overtures to Hull about Turner, did we not buy him?


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Pretty much, it's clear that they would have demanded more from us, because we're a bigger club.
 
[quote author=rage link=topic=37305.msg992781#msg992781 date=1258669841]
we wanted more than was offered for voronin and the greek and countless number of kids we no doubt bought cost well over 2 million.

we didn't buy him because bruce was on this occasion a better haggler. i doubt rafa felt he could have bought him for 4 million.
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'A better haggler', Oh right yeah, I forgot you were there.
 
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[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=37305.msg992829#msg992829 date=1258674857]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=37305.msg992826#msg992826 date=1258674747]
He probably would of chosen to go to Sunderland over us anyway. At 26 it would have been a brave call for him to come here when he may well of been 4th choice.
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He'd have jumped at the chance to come to us.
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We'll never know i guess Doc.

It wouldn't be the first time that a player has opted for a lesser club in order to play 1st team Football though.


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Not often mate.
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*coughs* Sami.

Like i said though you may well be right on this mate.
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Even Sami only did that as one last hurrah before he likely retires, and he's already been told there's a place for him here on the coaching staff. It's not like he jumped ship at the first sign of a lack of first team footy. He'd been pushed down the pecking order since Rafa arrived.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=37305.msg992948#msg992948 date=1258705383]
[quote author=rage link=topic=37305.msg992781#msg992781 date=1258669841]
we wanted more than was offered for voronin and the greek and countless number of kids we no doubt bought cost well over 2 million.

we didn't buy him because bruce was on this occasion a better haggler. i doubt rafa felt he could have bought him for 4 million.
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'A better haggler', Oh right yeah, I forgot you were there.
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hahaha
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=37305.msg992821#msg992821 date=1258674520]
The talk was 12m or something crazy. I can remember something about Rafa declaring interest but the price was too high. And then all went quiet. Who knows? It isn't a very good stick to beat Rafa with though.
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It was 12m indeed.
 
[quote author=Doped White Mouse link=topic=37305.msg992969#msg992969 date=1258709831]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=37305.msg992821#msg992821 date=1258674520]
The talk was 12m or something crazy. I can remember something about Rafa declaring interest but the price was too high. And then all went quiet. Who knows? It isn't a very good stick to beat Rafa with though.
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It was 12m indeed.
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It is Rafa's fault! as per.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=37305.msg992948#msg992948 date=1258705383]
[quote author=rage link=topic=37305.msg992781#msg992781 date=1258669841]
we wanted more than was offered for voronin and the greek and countless number of kids we no doubt bought cost well over 2 million.

we didn't buy him because bruce was on this occasion a better haggler. i doubt rafa felt he could have bought him for 4 million.
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'A better haggler', Oh right yeah, I forgot you were there.
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lower level managers are better at squeezing the most out of every penny. i don't see what you can disagree with there.

maybe for our next manager we need someone who can do this as a key competency if we continue with our financial issues.
 
[quote author=rage link=topic=37305.msg993055#msg993055 date=1258714794]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=37305.msg992948#msg992948 date=1258705383]
[quote author=rage link=topic=37305.msg992781#msg992781 date=1258669841]
we wanted more than was offered for voronin and the greek and countless number of kids we no doubt bought cost well over 2 million.

we didn't buy him because bruce was on this occasion a better haggler. i doubt rafa felt he could have bought him for 4 million.
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'A better haggler', Oh right yeah, I forgot you were there.
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lower level managers are better at squeezing the most out of every penny. i don't see what you can disagree with there.

maybe for our next manager we need someone who can do this as a key competency if we continue with our financial issues.
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Would you object if say we get Steve Bruce as a replacement for Rafa?
 
[quote author=rage link=topic=37305.msg993055#msg993055 date=1258714794]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=37305.msg992948#msg992948 date=1258705383]
[quote author=rage link=topic=37305.msg992781#msg992781 date=1258669841]
we wanted more than was offered for voronin and the greek and countless number of kids we no doubt bought cost well over 2 million.

we didn't buy him because bruce was on this occasion a better haggler. i doubt rafa felt he could have bought him for 4 million.
[/quote]

'A better haggler', Oh right yeah, I forgot you were there.
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lower level managers are better at squeezing the most out of every penny. i don't see what you can disagree with there.

maybe for our next manager we need someone who can do this as a key competency if we continue with our financial issues.
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Great idea. So basically we need a manager of lower level to bring in players on the cheap.

How could we be blinded for so long. Roll on, number 19!
 
As soon as one of the 'big 4' enters the market for a player, their value doubles. We will always be screwed for our targets, unless we finish in the bottom half for the next 3 or 4 years.
 
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