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Andy Carroll In Danger Yo !

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Once Rodgers was appointed you couldn't really see a place for a number of our players and Carroll woul be no1 on that list.

If we can see him as opposed to loaning him then I've no problem with it.

We've spent the best part of 20 years as a club waiting for our signings to 'turn the corner'
 
If we sell Carroll we'll probably spend wisely and buy Bendtner. Is that what you guys want?

IS IT?

You are aware that Bendtners record in the league last season for a woeful Sunderland side is 8 in 29 where as this 35 million pound beast I keep hearing about got 4 goals in 35 appearances. So yeah by all means mock Bendtner as a ludicrously sub LFC standard player, then ask yourself what does that make Carroll?
 
Haha, my record isnt great mate. But I'm bound to get something right, lets hope it isnt about AC. 🙂
 
You are aware that Bendtners record in the league last season for a woeful Sunderland side is 8 in 29 where as this 35 million pound beast I keep hearing about got 4 goals in 35 appearances. So yeah by all means mock Bendtner as a ludicrously sub LFC standard player, then ask yourself what does that make Carroll?
spot on. we can't complain about anyone's strikers when our beast has such a poor goal ratio.

don't want no loan nonsense though. sell him or keep him. Im hoping its the former. seems like Rodgers doesn't rate him thank god. C'mon lets be realistic, can you really see him in a pass and move team?
 
yep. Anyway, I'd say it looks like our best hope of getting a decent deal (£20m or so) is Milan coming through with the Zlatan money. Would he go there? He's about as worldly and curious as a baked bean, but it would at least allow him to salvage a bit of pride by staying at a big (in fact probably bigger) club.
 
Would Liverpool be making a mistake to let Carroll go?

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Phil McNulty | 12:19 UK time, Wednesday, 11 July 2012​


Andy Carroll may have thought he had finally got his feet under the table at Liverpool after ending last season with the sort of flourish that suggested he had settled to life on Merseyside.
No-one could claim the 23-year-old had even come close to justifying the exorbitant £35m fee Liverpool handed over to Newcastle United in January 2011 as part of the proceeds from Fernando Torres' £50m sale to Chelsea.

There were some vital signs, however, of the return of the form that prompted now former manager Kenny Dalglish to make the giant Geordie his prime target once Torres had taken his talents to Stamford Bridge.

Carroll, for so long little more than a despairing misfit despite constant public expressions of faith from Dalglish, was alive again. He scored the winner in the FA Cup semi-final against Everton and almost rescued a hopeless position against Chelsea in the final at Wembley with a goal and a performance that made a nonsense of his non-selection, although Dalglish's initial pick seemed based on sound logic.

He then followed that up by terrorising Chelsea captain John Terry as Liverpool won 4-1 in a Premier League game that turned out to be Dalglish's last Anfield game as manager before he was sacked and replaced by Brendan Rodgers.

And it is the arrival of Rodgers, accompanied by his avowed intention to maintain the fluid, passing approach that won so many admirers at Swansea City that now leaves Carroll's Liverpool future open to question.

If Carroll, who played for England at Euro 2012 and scored a spectacular header in the win against Sweden, was hoping for a ringing endorsement from Rodgers about the part he has to play at Anfield then it has not arrived.

He will hardly have been reassured by Rodgers intensifying his efforts to sign Roma's Fabio Borini while expressing his hopes that Uruguayan striker Luis Suarez will sign a new contract at Liverpool.

It merely strengthens the impression that Carroll's bludgeoning, physical style will not provide a neat fit within the more subtle tactical framework Rodgers aims to foster following his arrival at Anfield. He prefers a high-tempo front three - a system which Carroll would not appear to suit.
Rodgers said: "Andy's always going to be linked with clubs, whether he was here or not. I have spoken to him on his holidays and he knows exactly where he stands but I have had no enquiries about him.

"Andy's a player I want to assess and speak with. We've already had a good chat on where we're at."

Carroll will be reluctant to give up easily on his Anfield career after only 18 months and he may regard Rodgers's words as a demand to adapt to the new climate at the club rather than a message that he is heading for the exit.

In among the plaudits that were aimed in Swansea's direction last season, there was the occasional barb that their passing approach sometimes lacked a "Plan B". Would Carroll not provide that other option should Rodgers experience similar problems, or is he simply too much of a stranger to his coaching philosophy?

Experienced Liverpool observers rightly point to potential problems with Carroll's fitness should he not get a regular game. That is not a comment on his attitude, which was praised by Dalglish and England manager Roy Hodgson, but a recognition that he is a player who needs to be in constant action. This is unlikely to be the case should Rodgers land Borini, and perhaps even if he does not.

The dilemma is not only Carroll's. Liverpool know they might not get within £20m of a return on their initial investment which has led to speculation about a loan move.

West Ham United would be at the front of the queue should Liverpool encourage them a loan deal could be done - which could then flush out other interested parties. It does not take a huge leap of the imagination to see how much Hammers' manager Sam Allardyce might relish the idea of Carroll leading his attack back in the Premier League.

Of course one option is that Carroll, having showing flashes of form at the end of last season, will choose to stay and fight it out and prove to Rodgers that he can play a part.

It certainly seems Carroll retains support among Liverpool's fan base. Throwing out the question about his future on Twitter, the audience is obviously framed by that medium but there was virtually unanimous backing for Carroll to be given a chance by Rodgers.

Rodgers wants to make a fast start at Liverpool after a tough early fixture list gave them home games against Manchester City, Arsenal and Manchester United in the opening period.

Whether Andy Carroll has a part to play in those games remains to be seen.
 
Liverpool are ready to make a £25m loss on striker Andy Carroll this summer, with former club Newcastle preparing a £10m bid to bring him back to the north east.
Full story: The Independent

Get fucked springs to mind
 
Liverpool are ready to make a £25m loss on striker Andy Carroll this summer, with former club Newcastle preparing a £10m bid to bring him back to the north east.
Full story: The Independent

Get fucked springs to mind

That would be insane; not even worth the effort to sell him for that.
 
A young England international playing for one of the world's biggest clubs, on 80k per week. That alone puts him in the 20m bracket.
10m was what he was worth at Newcastle.
 
A young England international playing for one of the world's biggest clubs, on 80k per week. That alone puts him in the 20m bracket.
10m was what he was worth at Newcastle.
no it doesn't, just means he's over paid. no one will pay 20m for him. we'll be lucky to get 15m.
 
now i know some of you are going to say it's more complicated than that blah blah but seriously , how many of you think the likes of Arsenal , city , united , chelsea and even spurs would be overly interested in having carroll in their team ? I don't think any of them would be too interested . So if we aspire to be at that level and beyond , why is he good enough for us ?
 
now i know some of you are going to say it's more complicated than that blah blah but seriously , how many of you think the likes of Arsenal , city , united , chelsea and even spurs would be overly interested in having carroll in their team ? I don't think any of them would be too interested . So if we aspire to be at that level and beyond , why is he good enough for us ?

Spurs wanted him If I'm not mistaken.
 
I really don't believe any business would accept a £25 million loss on a player in one season, fuck me thats worse than Veron, £10 million to newcastle shit.

I think the lack of news on the transfer front has catapulted this story, no way will we sell andy for less than £25-30 million. In fact I think he will stay its all paper gossip bollox.

See Jon I am learning
 
ha the rumour mill is going mad, Carroll to Fulham on loan to sweeten Dempsey move

all bollox I 'm telling you he is staying
 
I really don't believe any business would accept a £25 million loss on a player in one season, fuck me thats worse than Veron, £10 million to newcastle shit.

I think the lack of news on the transfer front has catapulted this story, no way will we sell andy for less than £25-30 million. In fact I think he will stay its all paper gossip bollox.

See Jon I am learning

Well done!
 
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You are aware that Bendtners record in the league last season for a woeful Sunderland side is 8 in 29 where as this 35 million pound beast I keep hearing about got 4 goals in 35 appearances. So yeah by all means mock Bendtner as a ludicrously sub LFC standard player, then ask yourself what does that make Carroll?
Is this a woosh?

Anyways I am well aware of Bendtner's merits mate, and I've always admired him as a footballer, I don't mock him often. Something which I've been and will be continuously ridiculed for on here as he's a bit of nutter. That's ok, still would be funny if Rodgers were in for him. 😀

He'd be a very good buy imo too as he won't be that expensive (latest rumors reports of £11M bids). He doesn't have quite the same power as Carroll but is better on the ball although I don't think the former is as poor as being made out.

Still don't believe it's the way forward UNLESS we get to recoup most of what we paid for Carroll, otherwise we'd be well daft to sell now. One good Season for Carroll under Rodgers scoring close to 20 and he'd be as expensive for any team coming in as what we paid for him. Give and take £5M.
 
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