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Re: Re: Re: Adam Johnson
[quote author=Chan link=topic=45739.msg1351548#msg1351548 date=1308422227]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45739.msg1351543#msg1351543 date=1308421650]
Bale single handedly won world war Z
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Amended.
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Infinitely improved as well
[quote author=Chan link=topic=45739.msg1351548#msg1351548 date=1308422227]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45739.msg1351543#msg1351543 date=1308421650]
Bale single handedly won world war Z
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Amended.
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Infinitely improved as well
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=45739.msg1351546#msg1351546 date=1308421966]
Ha, exactly! Bale had the marginally better season (and Johnson played a lot less due to injury) stats wise.
Johnson is the more skilful and talented player.
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Johnson isn't fit to lace Bale's boots in my view.
What exactly is Johnson good at it apart from the odd stepover and piece of skill.
Bale is quicker, stronger, has a better delivery, is more of a goalthreat and generally shits all over Johnson in all aspects.
Each to their own i suppose.
Ha, exactly! Bale had the marginally better season (and Johnson played a lot less due to injury) stats wise.
Johnson is the more skilful and talented player.
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Johnson isn't fit to lace Bale's boots in my view.
What exactly is Johnson good at it apart from the odd stepover and piece of skill.
Bale is quicker, stronger, has a better delivery, is more of a goalthreat and generally shits all over Johnson in all aspects.
Each to their own i suppose.
Re: Re: Adam Johnson
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45739.msg1351593#msg1351593 date=1308427561]
Joking aside they are both as good as each other, but Johnson will suffer if he doesn't start consistently.
Neither will ever be as good as robben however
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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45739.msg1351593#msg1351593 date=1308427561]
Joking aside they are both as good as each other, but Johnson will suffer if he doesn't start consistently.
Neither will ever be as good as robben however
[/quote]Or batman.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45739.msg1351594#msg1351594 date=1308428189]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45739.msg1351593#msg1351593 date=1308427561]
Joking aside they are both as good as each other, but Johnson will suffer if he doesn't start consistently.
Neither will ever be as good as robben however
[/quote]Or batman.
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Or Giggs.
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45739.msg1351593#msg1351593 date=1308427561]
Joking aside they are both as good as each other, but Johnson will suffer if he doesn't start consistently.
Neither will ever be as good as robben however
[/quote]Or batman.
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Or Giggs.
[quote author=Lewy link=topic=45739.msg1351602#msg1351602 date=1308429859]
neither of them could score with an overhead kick, like the great rooneyaldo
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who copied Crouchinho
neither of them could score with an overhead kick, like the great rooneyaldo
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who copied Crouchinho
[quote author=themn link=topic=45739.msg1351604#msg1351604 date=1308431101]
Does anyone really believe that Citeh will sell him to us, or any other Top 4/6 rival ?
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I mentioned this a few weeks ago - their options are limited as Johnson himself is highly unlikely to accept a transfer to a Villa or Sunderland or Newcastle (even if any of them could afford him), keep a very unhappy player whose career is nosediving and whose value will drop accordingly, sell him to a European club (again - would he want to go and could they afford him) ..... or sell him to Liverpool, Spurs or Arsenal.
Tough choices but I reckon they are arrogant enough to take the money and believe that they can buy a better team anyway.
Does anyone really believe that Citeh will sell him to us, or any other Top 4/6 rival ?
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I mentioned this a few weeks ago - their options are limited as Johnson himself is highly unlikely to accept a transfer to a Villa or Sunderland or Newcastle (even if any of them could afford him), keep a very unhappy player whose career is nosediving and whose value will drop accordingly, sell him to a European club (again - would he want to go and could they afford him) ..... or sell him to Liverpool, Spurs or Arsenal.
Tough choices but I reckon they are arrogant enough to take the money and believe that they can buy a better team anyway.
[quote author=localny link=topic=45739.msg1351662#msg1351662 date=1308452862]
But What happened to new owners signing great talent. We're back to taking castoffs from city, arsenal etc. I really hope all the good business is going on behind closed doors because the business on the patio is grim to look at
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We're back to taking castoffs from City, Arsenal etc based on what exactly? The rumours thread on an internet site? Precisely who are the last castoffs we took from these clubs if, as you say, we are back to doing such a thing?
But What happened to new owners signing great talent. We're back to taking castoffs from city, arsenal etc. I really hope all the good business is going on behind closed doors because the business on the patio is grim to look at
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We're back to taking castoffs from City, Arsenal etc based on what exactly? The rumours thread on an internet site? Precisely who are the last castoffs we took from these clubs if, as you say, we are back to doing such a thing?
That's what I am getting at Wilko, if you reread my posting - hopefully the "good business" aka good signings are going on behind closed doors because that we are seeing on the Internet sites isn't pleasing. And like it or not, every signing that has happened was usually initially a rumor in these places first.
As for castoffs we've vied for from rivals - Joe Cole, Gabriel Heinze, Jermaine Pennant, Bolo Zenden, Glenjo, Anelka (not minding that one) come to mind off hand as well as Ince. And we may have tried for others like stephen ireland. Historically we'd have signed more if the other clubs we would have complied. I hope we've moved on.
As for castoffs we've vied for from rivals - Joe Cole, Gabriel Heinze, Jermaine Pennant, Bolo Zenden, Glenjo, Anelka (not minding that one) come to mind off hand as well as Ince. And we may have tried for others like stephen ireland. Historically we'd have signed more if the other clubs we would have complied. I hope we've moved on.
[quote author=localny link=topic=45739.msg1351675#msg1351675 date=1308461836]
That's what I am getting at Wilko, if you reread my posting - hopefully the "good business" aka good signings are going on behind closed doors because that we are seeing on the Internet sites isn't pleasing. And like it or not, every signing that has happened was usually initially a rumor in these places first.
As for castoffs we've vied for from rivals - Joe Cole, Gabriel Heinze, Jermaine Pennant, Bolo Zenden, Glenjo, Anelka (not minding that one) come to mind off hand as well as Ince. And we may have tried for others like stephen ireland. Historically we'd have signed more if the other clubs we would have complied. I hope we've moved on.
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Pennant came from Birmingham, Zenden from Middlesborough, Glenjo from Portsmouth, and Anelka from PSG. I don't think they can be considered 'rivals'. Not great examples. I don't think we've ever got into such a habit anyway.
That's what I am getting at Wilko, if you reread my posting - hopefully the "good business" aka good signings are going on behind closed doors because that we are seeing on the Internet sites isn't pleasing. And like it or not, every signing that has happened was usually initially a rumor in these places first.
As for castoffs we've vied for from rivals - Joe Cole, Gabriel Heinze, Jermaine Pennant, Bolo Zenden, Glenjo, Anelka (not minding that one) come to mind off hand as well as Ince. And we may have tried for others like stephen ireland. Historically we'd have signed more if the other clubs we would have complied. I hope we've moved on.
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Pennant came from Birmingham, Zenden from Middlesborough, Glenjo from Portsmouth, and Anelka from PSG. I don't think they can be considered 'rivals'. Not great examples. I don't think we've ever got into such a habit anyway.
Why do we care if we get cast-offs?
If these players are promising and can add something to the side it really doesn't matter; every single player who's done badly in a club and subsequently gone somewhere else and then performed well would be classed as a 'cast-off'. It can be a very effective method at getting good value for quality players.
If these players are promising and can add something to the side it really doesn't matter; every single player who's done badly in a club and subsequently gone somewhere else and then performed well would be classed as a 'cast-off'. It can be a very effective method at getting good value for quality players.
[quote author=Wilko link=topic=45739.msg1351668#msg1351668 date=1308459022]
[quote author=localny link=topic=45739.msg1351662#msg1351662 date=1308452862]
But What happened to new owners signing great talent. We're back to taking castoffs from city, arsenal etc. I really hope all the good business is going on behind closed doors because the business on the patio is grim to look at
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We're back to taking castoffs from City, Arsenal etc based on what exactly? The rumours thread on an internet site? Precisely who are the last castoffs we took from these clubs if, as you say, we are back to doing such a thing?
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Joe Cole is the only one I can think of.
[quote author=localny link=topic=45739.msg1351662#msg1351662 date=1308452862]
But What happened to new owners signing great talent. We're back to taking castoffs from city, arsenal etc. I really hope all the good business is going on behind closed doors because the business on the patio is grim to look at
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We're back to taking castoffs from City, Arsenal etc based on what exactly? The rumours thread on an internet site? Precisely who are the last castoffs we took from these clubs if, as you say, we are back to doing such a thing?
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Joe Cole is the only one I can think of.
Re: Re: Adam Johnson
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45739.msg1351859#msg1351859 date=1308503558]
So barca should be roundly mocked for buying a player off united for a pittance? Or chelsea for buying an arsenal AND Liverpool cast off? Good Players are just that, regardless of who they played for
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Anelka isnt a cast off though is he? He pretty much forced his way out of Arsenal for the money to go to Madrid. A cast off would generally be conceived as one who left a club as he was no longer required! We really should have held on to him so I dont know if he could be classed as a liverpool cast off!
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45739.msg1351859#msg1351859 date=1308503558]
So barca should be roundly mocked for buying a player off united for a pittance? Or chelsea for buying an arsenal AND Liverpool cast off? Good Players are just that, regardless of who they played for
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Anelka isnt a cast off though is he? He pretty much forced his way out of Arsenal for the money to go to Madrid. A cast off would generally be conceived as one who left a club as he was no longer required! We really should have held on to him so I dont know if he could be classed as a liverpool cast off!
Re: Re: Adam Johnson
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=45739.msg1351867#msg1351867 date=1308505211]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45739.msg1351859#msg1351859 date=1308503558]
So barca should be roundly mocked for buying a player off united for a pittance? Or chelsea for buying an arsenal AND Liverpool cast off? Good Players are just that, regardless of who they played for
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Anelka isnt a cast off though is he? He pretty much forced his way out of Arsenal for the money to go to Madrid. A cast off would generally be conceived as one who left a club as he was no longer required! We really should have held on to him so I dont know if he could be classed as a liverpool cast off!
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anelka was cast off by us. he wanted to stay and we said "na we'd rather have spit"
Anelka was a cast off for a few teams before he found his way to city
[quote author=The Slugmonster link=topic=45739.msg1351867#msg1351867 date=1308505211]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45739.msg1351859#msg1351859 date=1308503558]
So barca should be roundly mocked for buying a player off united for a pittance? Or chelsea for buying an arsenal AND Liverpool cast off? Good Players are just that, regardless of who they played for
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Anelka isnt a cast off though is he? He pretty much forced his way out of Arsenal for the money to go to Madrid. A cast off would generally be conceived as one who left a club as he was no longer required! We really should have held on to him so I dont know if he could be classed as a liverpool cast off!
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anelka was cast off by us. he wanted to stay and we said "na we'd rather have spit"
Anelka was a cast off for a few teams before he found his way to city
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=45739.msg1351877#msg1351877 date=1308505862]
Disregarding players on the basis that they're a cast off is stupid.
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Exactly, Robben and Sneijder is a good example...
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van der vaart is another
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=45739.msg1351877#msg1351877 date=1308505862]
Disregarding players on the basis that they're a cast off is stupid.
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Exactly, Robben and Sneijder is a good example...
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van der vaart is another
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=45739.msg1351877#msg1351877 date=1308505862]
Disregarding players on the basis that they're a cast off is stupid.
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Of course it is, but it's inferred that they are fairly naff - with the exception of Nic, all of the players listed above were subpar players plodders who added little. It's these types of players I am leery of..
Disregarding players on the basis that they're a cast off is stupid.
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Of course it is, but it's inferred that they are fairly naff - with the exception of Nic, all of the players listed above were subpar players plodders who added little. It's these types of players I am leery of..
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1351911#msg1351911 date=1308508432]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=45739.msg1351877#msg1351877 date=1308505862]
Disregarding players on the basis that they're a cast off is stupid.
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Exactly, Robben and Sneijder is a good example...so is Luis Garcia to a lesser extent of course.
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Jesus lads of course, but anyone can see they're better than pennant, zenden et al
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=45739.msg1351877#msg1351877 date=1308505862]
Disregarding players on the basis that they're a cast off is stupid.
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Exactly, Robben and Sneijder is a good example...so is Luis Garcia to a lesser extent of course.
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Jesus lads of course, but anyone can see they're better than pennant, zenden et al
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