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[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352816#msg1352816 date=1308669271]
Well thats where our opinions differ I guess. I'd take a 22 year old Benayoun every time.
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Well. There's no amount of Oil of Olay in the world that can achieve that mate. But let us know if you find some that can.
Well thats where our opinions differ I guess. I'd take a 22 year old Benayoun every time.
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Well. There's no amount of Oil of Olay in the world that can achieve that mate. But let us know if you find some that can.
but would a 22 yossi have done anything? No, he'd still be getting eyed up by west ham
Hindsight is 20/20. We could all take risks on players but some wont work out. Johnson probably would as would downing. Shame we've no chance of getting johnson though
Hindsight is 20/20. We could all take risks on players but some wont work out. Johnson probably would as would downing. Shame we've no chance of getting johnson though
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45739.msg1352818#msg1352818 date=1308669442]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352816#msg1352816 date=1308669271]
Well thats where our opinions differ I guess. I'd take a 22 year old Benayoun every time.
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Well. There's no amount of Oil of Olay in the world that can achieve that mate. But let us know if you find some that can.
[/quote]what Im saying is Johnson will never be as good as Benayoun.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352816#msg1352816 date=1308669271]
Well thats where our opinions differ I guess. I'd take a 22 year old Benayoun every time.
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Well. There's no amount of Oil of Olay in the world that can achieve that mate. But let us know if you find some that can.
[/quote]what Im saying is Johnson will never be as good as Benayoun.
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45739.msg1352821#msg1352821 date=1308669629]
but would a 22 yossi have done anything? No, he'd still be getting eyed up by west ham
Hindsight is 20/20. We could all take risks on players but some wont work out. Johnson probably would as would downing. Shame we've no chance of getting johnson though
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I guess I just dont want us to take such risks.
(not directed at you)
I really dont understand this whole argument. Is it cultural thing?
Are you automatically a twat for disagreing about something?
but would a 22 yossi have done anything? No, he'd still be getting eyed up by west ham
Hindsight is 20/20. We could all take risks on players but some wont work out. Johnson probably would as would downing. Shame we've no chance of getting johnson though
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I guess I just dont want us to take such risks.
(not directed at you)
I really dont understand this whole argument. Is it cultural thing?
Are you automatically a twat for disagreing about something?
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352838#msg1352838 date=1308670444]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45739.msg1352821#msg1352821 date=1308669629]
but would a 22 yossi have done anything? No, he'd still be getting eyed up by west ham
Hindsight is 20/20. We could all take risks on players but some wont work out. Johnson probably would as would downing. Shame we've no chance of getting johnson though
[/quote]
I guess I just dont want us to take such risks.
(not directed at you)
I really dont understand this whole argument. Is it cultural thing?
Are you automatically a twat for disagreing about something?
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not really. Oncy just doesn't take kindly to that level of hyperbole. Lets be honest, comparing our batch of current wingers to some of the greatest we've ever produced is ridiculously OTT
Besides which beckham wasn't even a winger
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45739.msg1352821#msg1352821 date=1308669629]
but would a 22 yossi have done anything? No, he'd still be getting eyed up by west ham
Hindsight is 20/20. We could all take risks on players but some wont work out. Johnson probably would as would downing. Shame we've no chance of getting johnson though
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I guess I just dont want us to take such risks.
(not directed at you)
I really dont understand this whole argument. Is it cultural thing?
Are you automatically a twat for disagreing about something?
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not really. Oncy just doesn't take kindly to that level of hyperbole. Lets be honest, comparing our batch of current wingers to some of the greatest we've ever produced is ridiculously OTT
Besides which beckham wasn't even a winger
No-ones calling you a twat Modo. Well, apart from Oncy, calling you a hysterical one. Anyway, you're welcome to your opinion of course but I do disagree with the one that states Johnson is shite regardless of comparisons to other players. I think he's decent but,as Fabio says, we won't buy him so all this debate is probably a bit futile.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352812#msg1352812 date=1308669184]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=45739.msg1352789#msg1352789 date=1308668424]
Is he good enough for a team that finished 6th, not even qualifying for Europe and is looking to get into the top 4 though?
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Depends on what our aim is, no?
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Yes but our aim should be at least based partly on what our resources are and how we can improve them shouldn't it?
The existing squad is unlikely to challenge for the title. I think we are probably agreed on that. So we need to improve it.
Are we likely to be able to buy superstars? Maybe, but I would suggest we would probably struggle unless we have limitless money, which I imagine we do not.
So therefore would it not be more realistic to be using what we have to improve our squad with players who will get us back into the top 4, as a minimum first step?
We can always change add or replace players after step one is done can't we?
[quote author=Richey link=topic=45739.msg1352789#msg1352789 date=1308668424]
Is he good enough for a team that finished 6th, not even qualifying for Europe and is looking to get into the top 4 though?
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Depends on what our aim is, no?
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Yes but our aim should be at least based partly on what our resources are and how we can improve them shouldn't it?
The existing squad is unlikely to challenge for the title. I think we are probably agreed on that. So we need to improve it.
Are we likely to be able to buy superstars? Maybe, but I would suggest we would probably struggle unless we have limitless money, which I imagine we do not.
So therefore would it not be more realistic to be using what we have to improve our squad with players who will get us back into the top 4, as a minimum first step?
We can always change add or replace players after step one is done can't we?
[quote author=Richey link=topic=45739.msg1352902#msg1352902 date=1308677073]
The existing squad is unlikely to challenge for the title. I think we are probably agreed on that. So we need to improve it.
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I believe the existing squad finished a very close 2nd (including wins over Chelsea. United & City) - Jan thru end of the season - after Kenny took over, did it not ?. So why is it unlikely to challenge ? Evolution not revolution could take us the next step and IMO that evolution is a couple of 1st teamers and considerable strengthening of the squad. From the names mentioned that looks like what's happening (although I believe nobody, except those at the top, actually knows SFA about our actual targets).
The existing squad is unlikely to challenge for the title. I think we are probably agreed on that. So we need to improve it.
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I believe the existing squad finished a very close 2nd (including wins over Chelsea. United & City) - Jan thru end of the season - after Kenny took over, did it not ?. So why is it unlikely to challenge ? Evolution not revolution could take us the next step and IMO that evolution is a couple of 1st teamers and considerable strengthening of the squad. From the names mentioned that looks like what's happening (although I believe nobody, except those at the top, actually knows SFA about our actual targets).
I love scm arguments, they're brilliant.
Adam Johnson is pretty good. Then again, I though David Thompson would become and England regular.
Adam Johnson is pretty good. Then again, I though David Thompson would become and England regular.
[quote author=Richey link=topic=45739.msg1352902#msg1352902 date=1308677073]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352812#msg1352812 date=1308669184]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=45739.msg1352789#msg1352789 date=1308668424]
Is he good enough for a team that finished 6th, not even qualifying for Europe and is looking to get into the top 4 though?
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Depends on what our aim is, no?
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Yes but our aim should be at least based partly on what our resources are and how we can improve them shouldn't it?
The existing squad is unlikely to challenge for the title. I think we are probably agreed on that. So we need to improve it.
Are we likely to be able to buy superstars? Maybe, but I would suggest we would probably struggle unless we have limitless money, which I imagine we do not.
So therefore would it not be more realistic to be using what we have to improve our squad with players who will get us back into the top 4, as a minimum first step?
We can always change add or replace players after step one is done can't we?
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Point well taken. I like your argument but it seems a bit defeatist. I really do think we're 2-3 signings from having a title winning team.
We got Suarez, we got Meireles, let's build on that.
Add Mata, Cahill, Baines/Enrique and we're there. (Aquilani already included)
This team...
Reina
Johnson
Carra
Agger/Skrtel
Kelly
Lucas
Meireles
Gerrard
Suarez
Kuyt
Carroll
...is good enough to challenge for a top 4 spot.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352812#msg1352812 date=1308669184]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=45739.msg1352789#msg1352789 date=1308668424]
Is he good enough for a team that finished 6th, not even qualifying for Europe and is looking to get into the top 4 though?
[/quote]
Depends on what our aim is, no?
[/quote]
Yes but our aim should be at least based partly on what our resources are and how we can improve them shouldn't it?
The existing squad is unlikely to challenge for the title. I think we are probably agreed on that. So we need to improve it.
Are we likely to be able to buy superstars? Maybe, but I would suggest we would probably struggle unless we have limitless money, which I imagine we do not.
So therefore would it not be more realistic to be using what we have to improve our squad with players who will get us back into the top 4, as a minimum first step?
We can always change add or replace players after step one is done can't we?
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Point well taken. I like your argument but it seems a bit defeatist. I really do think we're 2-3 signings from having a title winning team.
We got Suarez, we got Meireles, let's build on that.
Add Mata, Cahill, Baines/Enrique and we're there. (Aquilani already included)
This team...
Reina
Johnson
Carra
Agger/Skrtel
Kelly
Lucas
Meireles
Gerrard
Suarez
Kuyt
Carroll
...is good enough to challenge for a top 4 spot.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45739.msg1352917#msg1352917 date=1308680301]
I love scm arguments, they're brilliant.
Adam Johnson is pretty good. Then again, I though David Thompson would become and England regular.
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I don't blame you. It's part and parcel of the whole English "hype" generator.
I remember folks here advocating us signing David Bentley.
I love scm arguments, they're brilliant.
Adam Johnson is pretty good. Then again, I though David Thompson would become and England regular.
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I don't blame you. It's part and parcel of the whole English "hype" generator.
I remember folks here advocating us signing David Bentley.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352923#msg1352923 date=1308681071]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45739.msg1352917#msg1352917 date=1308680301]
I love scm arguments, they're brilliant.
Adam Johnson is pretty good. Then again, I though David Thompson would become and England regular.
[/quote]
I don't blame you. It's part and parcel of the hole English "hype" generator.
I remember folks here advocating us signing David Bentley.
[/quote]Fuck me you talk shite.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45739.msg1352917#msg1352917 date=1308680301]
I love scm arguments, they're brilliant.
Adam Johnson is pretty good. Then again, I though David Thompson would become and England regular.
[/quote]
I don't blame you. It's part and parcel of the hole English "hype" generator.
I remember folks here advocating us signing David Bentley.
[/quote]Fuck me you talk shite.
He actually spits in the face of other posters who have talked shite in the past. Really great shite talkers like Glock, Roger Rederer and Nikeser.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45739.msg1352925#msg1352925 date=1308681553]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352923#msg1352923 date=1308681071]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45739.msg1352917#msg1352917 date=1308680301]
I love scm arguments, they're brilliant.
Adam Johnson is pretty good. Then again, I though David Thompson would become and England regular.
[/quote]
I don't blame you. It's part and parcel of the hole English "hype" generator.
I remember folks here advocating us signing David Bentley.
[/quote]Fuck me you talk shite.
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It's basically at the same level as your army brigade company bullshit.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352923#msg1352923 date=1308681071]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45739.msg1352917#msg1352917 date=1308680301]
I love scm arguments, they're brilliant.
Adam Johnson is pretty good. Then again, I though David Thompson would become and England regular.
[/quote]
I don't blame you. It's part and parcel of the hole English "hype" generator.
I remember folks here advocating us signing David Bentley.
[/quote]Fuck me you talk shite.
[/quote]
It's basically at the same level as your army brigade company bullshit.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352932#msg1352932 date=1308682533]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45739.msg1352925#msg1352925 date=1308681553]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352923#msg1352923 date=1308681071]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45739.msg1352917#msg1352917 date=1308680301]
I love scm arguments, they're brilliant.
Adam Johnson is pretty good. Then again, I though David Thompson would become and England regular.
[/quote]
I don't blame you. It's part and parcel of the hole English "hype" generator.
I remember folks here advocating us signing David Bentley.
[/quote]Fuck me you talk shite.
[/quote]
It's basically at the same level as your army brigade company bullshit.
[/quote]What? How are those two things even remotely related?
You patronise George by intimating that its not his fault he rated David Thompson its 'the English hype' then not content with that xenobhobic nugget you then try to evidence it by naming someone 'english' who 'plenty' of posters wanted because we are 'english' and its that typical 'English hype' ignoring the fact there wasnt any Hype over Thompson and COMPLETELY ignorant of the fact that plently on here wanted Quaresma, Dos Santos, Pongolle, De la Red and a fucking million other starlets who came to nothing who werent English.
Youre a bigot and you talk fucking shit.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45739.msg1352925#msg1352925 date=1308681553]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352923#msg1352923 date=1308681071]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45739.msg1352917#msg1352917 date=1308680301]
I love scm arguments, they're brilliant.
Adam Johnson is pretty good. Then again, I though David Thompson would become and England regular.
[/quote]
I don't blame you. It's part and parcel of the hole English "hype" generator.
I remember folks here advocating us signing David Bentley.
[/quote]Fuck me you talk shite.
[/quote]
It's basically at the same level as your army brigade company bullshit.
[/quote]What? How are those two things even remotely related?
You patronise George by intimating that its not his fault he rated David Thompson its 'the English hype' then not content with that xenobhobic nugget you then try to evidence it by naming someone 'english' who 'plenty' of posters wanted because we are 'english' and its that typical 'English hype' ignoring the fact there wasnt any Hype over Thompson and COMPLETELY ignorant of the fact that plently on here wanted Quaresma, Dos Santos, Pongolle, De la Red and a fucking million other starlets who came to nothing who werent English.
Youre a bigot and you talk fucking shit.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45739.msg1352934#msg1352934 date=1308682916]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352932#msg1352932 date=1308682533]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45739.msg1352925#msg1352925 date=1308681553]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352923#msg1352923 date=1308681071]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45739.msg1352917#msg1352917 date=1308680301]
I love scm arguments, they're brilliant.
Adam Johnson is pretty good. Then again, I though David Thompson would become and England regular.
[/quote]
I don't blame you. It's part and parcel of the hole English "hype" generator.
I remember folks here advocating us signing David Bentley.
[/quote]Fuck me you talk shite.
[/quote]
It's basically at the same level as your army brigade company bullshit.
[/quote]What? How are those two things even remotely related?
You patronise George by intimating that its not his fault he rated David Thompson its 'the English hype' then not content with that xenobhobic nugget you then try to evidence it by naming someone 'english' who 'plenty' of posters wanted because we are 'english' and its that typical 'English hype' ignoring the fact there wasnt any Hype over Thompson and COMPLETELY ignorant of the fact that plently on here wanted Quaresma, Dos Santos, Pongolle, De la Red and a fucking million other starlets who came to nothing who werent English.
Youre a bigot and you talk fucking shit.
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Hahaha, really!?
I'll just read that over and over again cause it's just hysterical.
I'd really love to answer you, but it just seems pointless.
Again...funny. Top post!
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352932#msg1352932 date=1308682533]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=45739.msg1352925#msg1352925 date=1308681553]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45739.msg1352923#msg1352923 date=1308681071]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=45739.msg1352917#msg1352917 date=1308680301]
I love scm arguments, they're brilliant.
Adam Johnson is pretty good. Then again, I though David Thompson would become and England regular.
[/quote]
I don't blame you. It's part and parcel of the hole English "hype" generator.
I remember folks here advocating us signing David Bentley.
[/quote]Fuck me you talk shite.
[/quote]
It's basically at the same level as your army brigade company bullshit.
[/quote]What? How are those two things even remotely related?
You patronise George by intimating that its not his fault he rated David Thompson its 'the English hype' then not content with that xenobhobic nugget you then try to evidence it by naming someone 'english' who 'plenty' of posters wanted because we are 'english' and its that typical 'English hype' ignoring the fact there wasnt any Hype over Thompson and COMPLETELY ignorant of the fact that plently on here wanted Quaresma, Dos Santos, Pongolle, De la Red and a fucking million other starlets who came to nothing who werent English.
Youre a bigot and you talk fucking shit.
[/quote]
Hahaha, really!?
I'll just read that over and over again cause it's just hysterical.
I'd really love to answer you, but it just seems pointless.
Again...funny. Top post!
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=45739.msg1352747#msg1352747 date=1308664726]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=45739.msg1352730#msg1352730 date=1308663623]
the people I feel sorry for are new members or guests who see a 12 page thread on adam johnson and excitedly open said thread expecting to see exclusive news of johnson's eminent transfer to liverpool...
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I would not go so far as to say I feel sorry for them, but I get your drift Spidey. I think the problem is on here , and I am possibly not completely guiltless, although some make an art-form of it - some people always have to have the last word.
regards
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If you are so much as off a beat with your use of a word, you end up being asked to explain yourself - it's too much. I think I had to post several explanations of the term castoff, when Common sense should have indicated the situation. Too much having a go, not enough moving the debate on..
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=45739.msg1352730#msg1352730 date=1308663623]
the people I feel sorry for are new members or guests who see a 12 page thread on adam johnson and excitedly open said thread expecting to see exclusive news of johnson's eminent transfer to liverpool...
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I would not go so far as to say I feel sorry for them, but I get your drift Spidey. I think the problem is on here , and I am possibly not completely guiltless, although some make an art-form of it - some people always have to have the last word.
regards
[/quote]
If you are so much as off a beat with your use of a word, you end up being asked to explain yourself - it's too much. I think I had to post several explanations of the term castoff, when Common sense should have indicated the situation. Too much having a go, not enough moving the debate on..
[quote author=localny link=topic=45739.msg1352939#msg1352939 date=1308683334]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=45739.msg1352747#msg1352747 date=1308664726]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=45739.msg1352730#msg1352730 date=1308663623]
the people I feel sorry for are new members or guests who see a 12 page thread on adam johnson and excitedly open said thread expecting to see exclusive news of johnson's eminent transfer to liverpool...
[/quote]
I would not go so far as to say I feel sorry for them, but I get your drift Spidey. I think the problem is on here , and I am possibly not completely guiltless, although some make an art-form of it - some people always have to have the last word.
regards
[/quote]
If you are so much as off a beat with your use of a word, you end up being asked to explain yourself - it's too much. I think I had to post several explanations of the term castoff, when Common sense should have indicated the situatioj. Too much having a go, not enough moving the debate on..
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Local : I asked you to explain your meaning because I didnt know what the hell you were getting at ; your response was to say you'd wear your sandals and shorts and then back out of this 'increasingly tedious' thread.
You implied that we shouldnt get players from weaker mid-table clubs like Middletableborough; you then rephrased what you meant when it was clear that wasnt what you were implying. I wasnt having a go at you.
Since I wasnt the only one who didnt understand what you were trying (and failing) to get at, I guess I wasnt the only one with common sense.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=45739.msg1352747#msg1352747 date=1308664726]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=45739.msg1352730#msg1352730 date=1308663623]
the people I feel sorry for are new members or guests who see a 12 page thread on adam johnson and excitedly open said thread expecting to see exclusive news of johnson's eminent transfer to liverpool...
[/quote]
I would not go so far as to say I feel sorry for them, but I get your drift Spidey. I think the problem is on here , and I am possibly not completely guiltless, although some make an art-form of it - some people always have to have the last word.
regards
[/quote]
If you are so much as off a beat with your use of a word, you end up being asked to explain yourself - it's too much. I think I had to post several explanations of the term castoff, when Common sense should have indicated the situatioj. Too much having a go, not enough moving the debate on..
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Local : I asked you to explain your meaning because I didnt know what the hell you were getting at ; your response was to say you'd wear your sandals and shorts and then back out of this 'increasingly tedious' thread.
You implied that we shouldnt get players from weaker mid-table clubs like Middletableborough; you then rephrased what you meant when it was clear that wasnt what you were implying. I wasnt having a go at you.
Since I wasnt the only one who didnt understand what you were trying (and failing) to get at, I guess I wasnt the only one with common sense.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=45739.msg1352941#msg1352941 date=1308683825]
Im not one to pick sides but I'd just give it a rest Modo, you're coming across as a bit of a cunt.
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I'm the cunt?
After being ridiculed, called a hysterical twat and a bigot on top of that?
OK, you don't pick sides.
Im not one to pick sides but I'd just give it a rest Modo, you're coming across as a bit of a cunt.
[/quote]
I'm the cunt?
After being ridiculed, called a hysterical twat and a bigot on top of that?
OK, you don't pick sides.
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=45739.msg1352946#msg1352946 date=1308684242]
We really need a real transfer to chew over to stop everyone biting each others dicks.
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I agree - Some serenity from Buddha 8)
We really need a real transfer to chew over to stop everyone biting each others dicks.
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I agree - Some serenity from Buddha 8)
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