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3-4-3
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I'm not sure I buy that Moreno is doing that well defensively, he has a bad challenge/mistake in most games he plays, his reading of the game is pretty poor. He was lucky at the weekend with a terribly timed tackle that would have been punished by another ref.
Offensively I really like him though and he has age on his side to work on the defensive side of his game, but he's benefiting from moving to a wingback position now, with more protection and less onus on him to cover.
Offensively I really like him though and he has age on his side to work on the defensive side of his game, but he's benefiting from moving to a wingback position now, with more protection and less onus on him to cover.
Are there (m)any Prem defenders who don't make a mistake in most games nowadays though? He's clearly not the finished article yet, but he's made good tackles to go with the bad ones.
It's a system that currently is getting the best out of the players available, but may get binned when we have some of the key places filled.
The most encouraging part is seeing Skrtel & Sakho covering each other so well and hopefully they will form the strong centreback partnership we have been missing so badly. We can then be more confident in our defence and can afford to have more of the ball players in the side.
I still don't think that a Lucas-Henderson centre midfield is either solid or creative enough but they're doing a decent job at the moment.
Brendan will be spoilt for choice soon, because when Sturridge is back and can keep fit & scoring, we will have Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana, Ibe, Markovic & Gerrard who can all play in the attacking midfield positions.
The most encouraging part is seeing Skrtel & Sakho covering each other so well and hopefully they will form the strong centreback partnership we have been missing so badly. We can then be more confident in our defence and can afford to have more of the ball players in the side.
I still don't think that a Lucas-Henderson centre midfield is either solid or creative enough but they're doing a decent job at the moment.
Brendan will be spoilt for choice soon, because when Sturridge is back and can keep fit & scoring, we will have Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana, Ibe, Markovic & Gerrard who can all play in the attacking midfield positions.
There aren't many great full backs in the game in a general sense, due in part to the huge demands placed on them in most modern formations. They're pretty much require to be wingbacks regardless of whether they operate in a back four or not.
I'm glad we're talking bout the importance of the role of wingbacks in a 3-4-3. Because essentially when we defend, we convert to a 5-4-1 or a 5-3-2, and the system requires pacy wingbacks who can run long and fast.
And although we have reduced our counter-attacks, i think it's only a matter of time Brendan instructs the team to hit teams on the counter when we're sort of accustomed to the 3-4-3 system. And that's when I think he'll instruct the wingbacks to counter on the flanks. We've already seen that happening a few times against Villa, mostly down Marko's side.
Markovic and Moreno are fast runners with the ball. I've had a re-think again and i think this 3-4-3 system may just work if we play it well. The role of the wingbacks and the DM are absolutely crucial for this system to work.
I think Marko is just a stop-gap for now but i believe when summer comes, one of Brendan's main focus would be GlenJo's replacement. He would be a RB who can easily function as a RWB.
And although we have reduced our counter-attacks, i think it's only a matter of time Brendan instructs the team to hit teams on the counter when we're sort of accustomed to the 3-4-3 system. And that's when I think he'll instruct the wingbacks to counter on the flanks. We've already seen that happening a few times against Villa, mostly down Marko's side.
Markovic and Moreno are fast runners with the ball. I've had a re-think again and i think this 3-4-3 system may just work if we play it well. The role of the wingbacks and the DM are absolutely crucial for this system to work.
I think Marko is just a stop-gap for now but i believe when summer comes, one of Brendan's main focus would be GlenJo's replacement. He would be a RB who can easily function as a RWB.
Jose was distraught that his team couldn't take advantage of the space left at the back by our 3 man defense. According to him it was all down to their passing not being up to scratch. Wanker.
Jose would've had to have changed from his rigid 2 deep lying DM's to have made more use of the space or defenders left at the back.
He's more likely to have stuck John Terry up front.
I liked Markovic's defense once again yesterday – he was playing against the trickiest winger in England (Hazard) all game and very much held his own. Normally when an AM is asked to play at wing-back it's considered a defensive weakness and opposing managers are keen to exploit it. Mourinho's teams are excellent at figuring out weaknesses of the opposition during the game. For me it was telling that by the end of the game they were hardly having a go at Markovic down his flank any more; they tested him and realized they aren't going to get much joy down that flank.
He was distraught that his world class winger and striker got completely dominated by two twenty year olds and an angry Slovak.
It was interesting that Maureen was talking about how our system gave his team lots of room to exploit in attack, and it was only errors that cost them. I did wonder if there were mind games at play here. Yes, in the first half we probably did give them an opportunity on the break here and there. In the second half, other than that chance virtually from the kick off, we smothered them. I think he'd love BR to change tack for Stamford Bridge.
The return leg would be an interesting test to see how robust Brendan's 3-4-3 can be.
You mean against a Chelsea team that boast 14-1-0 at home this season ? It really doesn't matter in terms of proving anything, we did that last night. We may go there and lose but it won't prove anything other than Chelsea have the best team in the PL and we missed our chance even though we gave them a footballing lesson. It certainly won't be a reflection on LFC's version of 3-4-3.
Ahh the mythical 12th man.
I was assuming Ming would move into midfield since we didn't need a keeper last night (penalty and one shot 10m over the bar).
Even more so when we spent 20 big ones on an inferior player to what we already had for free.
I was angry about it from the beginning... but its just proven to be awful over time. Its another nail in Mr. Rodgers coffin for me. He can't spot a player. I could tell Ibe was probably better than Sterling in last years pre-season. Still hold by it.
If you look at our squad and tried to play any other formation but a 3-4-2-1... you'd be fucked. Unless you're actually happy to play Moreno at LB. You may be okay if Flanno was healthy or Enrique somehow fit. But if you were Rodgers you'd play Johnson at RB and fuck it up from the beginning.
Are you fucking kidding me? I've given him time and patience and said I was losing faith in him during the upswing in form.
I am not making my decision based on results which is RedNinja's thing. I am making my decisions based on our managers decision making ability.
And I've been on here for years. Is it so fucking wrong to lose faith in the manager? I have my logical reasons. Why don't you argue his case. Or would you be stuck arguing the merits of the players instead of anything special Rodgers has really done.
We spent 37 million pounds on 2 player for our strongest position.
Our weakest position we spent 10 million on and have to play him in defense because we spent 32 million on two players who have been utter shite. The one good dedicated defender we acquired is a Loan that we will probably lose but we are now playing a formation that doesn't suit him.
And the position we most needed depth in - we bought two immobile strikers who are utterly unsuited to playing our game.
We stuck with Gerrard in DM while it tanked the first half of our season. And then when he figured it out he tried to go right back to it in a huge game. The fact that he played Gerrard today for 90 minutes was atrocious. Took of our two players of the season in an attacking sense. Then he went all Hodgson after the game and lied to our faces about the performance. And there are countless other occurrences. Such as not taking Lallana off when he was having a mare against West Ham. He just makes the wrong decisions too often.
Its atrocious.
Coutinho<>Sturridge
Sterling<>Lambert
We spent over a 100 million quid this summer. And have one success to show for it. A lot of wait and sees. And a couple utter failures.
Our weakest position we spent 10 million on and have to play him in defense because we spent 32 million on two players who have been utter shite. The one good dedicated defender we acquired is a Loan that we will probably lose but we are now playing a formation that doesn't suit him.
And the position we most needed depth in - we bought two immobile strikers who are utterly unsuited to playing our game.
We stuck with Gerrard in DM while it tanked the first half of our season. And then when he figured it out he tried to go right back to it in a huge game. The fact that he played Gerrard today for 90 minutes was atrocious. Took of our two players of the season in an attacking sense. Then he went all Hodgson after the game and lied to our faces about the performance. And there are countless other occurrences. Such as not taking Lallana off when he was having a mare against West Ham. He just makes the wrong decisions too often.
Its atrocious.
Coutinho<>Sturridge
Sterling<>Lambert
We spent over a 100 million quid this summer. And have one success to show for it. A lot of wait and sees. And a couple utter failures.
You know that wait and see? Well, wait and see.
Otherwise, the cost of a transfer has no relevance to how a player is going to perform. There are so many factors, it beggars believe that people drone on about it.
I do agree on the fee, but the context of the fees is that we had enough money to get it right this time.
As far as the wait and sees. I'm willing to do it with the players. Even though they are wait an sees mostly because they're under performing or just shit right now.
However, the manager? Nah, I've seen enough now - I'd fire him at the end of the season. He's not capable of making logical decisions.
As far as the wait and sees. I'm willing to do it with the players. Even though they are wait an sees mostly because they're under performing or just shit right now.
However, the manager? Nah, I've seen enough now - I'd fire him at the end of the season. He's not capable of making logical decisions.
My decisions are not based on results.. but based over a period of time including lack of ability and bad decision making from the manager which became more apparent as the season progressed..
3-4-3 appears to be working for now.. but it cannot be what we will use long term moving forward.. Surely.. not..
It all very square peg round holes approach at the moment.. though It does seems to be working and working well. We are getting the results, so the manager and his coaching staff certainly have to get some credit for that..
But as things stand, I am in the wait and see camp too..
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