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What Happened At Half-Time In Istanbul

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Jules, you're talking bollocks. What you absolutely refuse to consider is that it might just have been a temporary display of exasperation on a difficult day after a gruelling season. There's no evidence at all that it proves some kind of genuinely problematic rift. None of us know what went on afterwards between the parties.
 
There's no evidence at all that it proves some kind of genuinely problematic rift. None of us know what went on afterwards between the parties.

Despite Rafa being a major blind spot for him, I tend to agree with the above. There were rumors, but there's always rumors and unless one of the parties confirms it, then we have to assume that's all it was, rumors and 'a difficult day at the office.'
 
Peter and Wizzy: that looks at the incident in isolation and ignores the whole series of lacklustre displays we were putting in around then. I was reminded at the time of the beginning of the end of GH's reign, when he ordered the team back into its pragmatic shell after we lost at Middlesbrough in November despite the fact that we were leading the league, at which point the whole team wilted before our eyes and we went on our worst run for half a century.
 
I was at the game, but have no idea what their reaction was cos I was at the very back of the kop in the tiniest seats in the world looking at what looked like the tiniest players in the world.

Worst. Seats. Ever.
 
Well no, I don't give a fuck how stupid you're being. I was trying to be helpful.



Well you can't see much from a hundred miles away.

True. My mate (6ft plus bodybuilder) couldn't fit in the seat at all. He had to stand & stewards kept telling him to sit, eventually the head steward came to eject him for 'refusing to sit'. He then told him it was ok after my mate demonstrated he simply could not fit.

Those seats are approx 3" smaller in depth than the other seats in the kop, no way that was planned.
 
Haha, the irony. You'd be the exact archetype of the sort I was thinking of who claims a balanced opinion but is somehow only ever negative.

And if you don't think we're the extreme negative go and check out what other much bigger forums say about him.

I have said, many, many times how I appreciate the great days Rafa gave us at the start of his tenure here, whilst also seeing the bad days that arrived at the end of his tenure here, and, unlike some, not finding him faultless for all of that... So, I can see both the good and the bad. How the blinkin' flip is that not balanced? Some folks out there seem to class recognizing the bad as well as the good as imbalanced.

See Avy's post earlier in the thread about his viewpoint on Rafa. I share that, almost word-for-word. How is that not a balanced view..?
 
I'm not saying you don't have a balanced view, I'm saying I never see any evidence of it, which I don't.
 
From the thread that you are directly responding to...

Hahaha that doesn't fucking count!!! That was a token response to my criticism of a general pattern of behaviour. Fair enough if you can quote a previous instance completely unrelated to any charge of bias.
 
Jesus, Peter - You're simply determined to not accept something that I've said many times...

From the 'Rafa Speaks' thread (and I left in my critisism, so as not to be accused to only highlighting the nice stuff) and I think that I may have been replying to you directly...

I appreciate all the good that he did for LFC. He WAS great, once. But his cannonisation by many since his departure is as narrow-minded as Ross is accused of being. I do not think him a cunt. But I do think he hurt us at the end, in more ways than one. In ways that somebody who "would do ANYTHING" for the club would not do.
 
Lads, let's close this thread, and take a MORI on all things rafa for a few weeks. It's hurting my head.
 
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