ANYONE can argue with that is insane. I think he's the best manager we've had since Kenny mk1.
What Happened At Half-Time In Istanbul
- Thread starter KingDing
- Start date
- Latest activity Latest activity:
- Status
ANYONE can argue with that is insane. I think he's the best manager we've had since Kenny mk1.
What ?
I mean mk1 obviously ... sorry about that! Corrected
Nothing to argue with here.
This reads to me as though you're still blaming Rafa for the fact that we haven't been in the CL since he left. If so, I'd have to disagree with that.
I don't think there is anyone who never says anything positive about Benitez. Even people who are pleased he has gone always seem to acknowledge the good things he did for the club.
Shelvey: in that case I'd have expected to see "Which we were out of because of him", but Wizzy's one of my oldest mates on here, so I'll leave it at that.
Your boy did well tonight BTW.
Your boy did well tonight BTW.
Nah, I don't think that, I just think people tend to focus too much on his failings on here. He did plenty wrong, as well. Take care
So, you're denying the existence of Rosco ?
Well even he can't deny that Benitez won the Champions League and bought some good players
Go on, ask him to say something positive about Rafa.
Haha, the irony. You'd be the exact archetype of the sort I was thinking of who claims a balanced opinion but is somehow only ever negative.
And if you don't think we're the extreme negative go and check out what other much bigger forums say about him.
It wasn't the players plural reaction it was a player's singular reaction. And he only pulled a face. Half the time he looks like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle anyways. Maybe he'd just remembered he hadn't punched any kids that morning. The media took a three second image of Gerrard looking pissed off and made it indicative of dressing room revolts. What do we all think of Gerrard's chances of being a great football manager? What right has he to question Rafa's subs? It was momentary insubordination from a spoilt wankbag, but that's not what the Shearers of this world want to talk about.
We ain't like RAWK et al because people have their own minds and opinions, rather than just following others like Lemmings.
Back to the issue in hand..... Best manager we have had in many many years. Got us very close, and I will always be thankful for that. Christ if I went with you and Spion, I would have sung Rafa songs and cheered and clapped like a fool.
However, he had lost the plot in his final 18 months, probably the dressing room too, and he had to go. And I was delighted to see it happen. The last 6 months of his tenure was as bad as it has been under anyone before or since in my living memory.
Smoke that Peter!!!
Back to the issue in hand..... Best manager we have had in many many years. Got us very close, and I will always be thankful for that. Christ if I went with you and Spion, I would have sung Rafa songs and cheered and clapped like a fool.
However, he had lost the plot in his final 18 months, probably the dressing room too, and he had to go. And I was delighted to see it happen. The last 6 months of his tenure was as bad as it has been under anyone before or since in my living memory.
Smoke that Peter!!!
Fur point m8
Haha that's absolute quality.
Sorry but it isn't, it's a load of hooey. For one thing, Torres was just as visibly naffed off. For another, it doesn't matter a light what "right" they had to feel that way. The point here is that they had become sufficiently disillusioned with Rafa to let it show publicly.
You're being pedantic ole chap ... Rafa left us with a good squad but out of the CL. Was the squad good enough to get back into the CL? I believe it was, and perhaps he could have got us back in. Roy was obviously not capable and the blame has to fall on him for that shit 6 months. As for Kenny's 18 months ... Sadly, he didn't do a good job at all after the first 6 months.
Well he wasn't, but even if he was.... are you saying that every time a player looks a bit glum at being subbed we've got a management situation on our hands? Or should we just strike that argument from the record?
Always with the they when it was just a he.
Have another look at the video. Torres quite visibly shrugs when Stevie looks at him.
You can caricature what I'm saying all you like, but you won't escape the point, which - once again - is that Rafa had provoked TWO senior players into an unmistakable (for those willing to see what's in front of them) show of public dissent. I'm not saying they were right to do what they did. I *am* saying that, right or wrong, their behaviour makes it clear that there were problems between Rafa and at least some of his senior players, and that such things are never going to be just one side's fault wherever they occur.
Didn't RAWK claim it was Carra that helped push him out?
You're really weakening what argument you have by including Torres in it.
Fuck what they thought. It's Rafa's decision. Maybe Torres shouldn't have been playing like a cunt.
The pair of you are sailing right past the point. Whatever they thought, whatever they did about it rightly or wrongly, part of a manager's job is to keep the dressing-room onside and there is clearly visible evidence that Rafa wasn't doing that.
You wish.
You wish.
So I believe, but I don't know their evidence for that. The Birmingham game on the other hand did provide evidence, for those with eyes to see.
- Status
Similar threads
