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Yeah, for Atletico.
Do you EVER have anything positive to say ? You're worse than Skully !!
So. Not heard anything more on Moreno yet but a few here have shown interest in Rojo (who it seems Southampton have submitted a £13.5m bid for) so I thought I'd post these opinions from fans (can't say they are Portuguese) living in Lisbon :
FAN #1 : Sporting fans have a love/hate relationship with Rojo.
He is a very professional player and respectful towards the club since we saved him from his Spartak Moscow career stage nightmare. He is a very physical player. He´s pacy and a very good man marker. I think he is better as CB rather than LB. Simeone and Maradona disagree though. Problem is... Sporting isn´t Argentina. He has performed way better as CB rather than LB at Sporting.
He can be an absolute beast and dominate games in a flawless way. But then there´s the inconsistency. He is very prone to positional errors and concentration lapses. He is also a complete nutcase. He´s been sent off so many times in very stupid fashion. He has a very poor disciplinary record. It´s always the same thing with Rojo. He gets sent off and costs us a game and he starts getting booed and people at the stands say that we are better off selling him. But then he comes back and plays spectaculary again for 5 or 6 games till he does the same crappy judgement errors.
Key issue with Rojo is that he needs a mentally strong and disciplinarian manager. A manager with personality. It´s not a surprise that Rojo´s best phase at Sporting was last year with now Mónaco manager Leonardo Jardim. He was a very strict manager. I think Van Gaal could control and improve him even more. Ronaldo Koeman, with what he showed at Benfica, i highly doubt that.
FAN #2 : He isn't that good, had a solid World Cup to be fair to him but still. He's not a poor player but has too many concentration lapses and disciplinary issues, Southampton is about his level.
FAN #1 : Sporting fans have a love/hate relationship with Rojo.
He is a very professional player and respectful towards the club since we saved him from his Spartak Moscow career stage nightmare. He is a very physical player. He´s pacy and a very good man marker. I think he is better as CB rather than LB. Simeone and Maradona disagree though. Problem is... Sporting isn´t Argentina. He has performed way better as CB rather than LB at Sporting.
He can be an absolute beast and dominate games in a flawless way. But then there´s the inconsistency. He is very prone to positional errors and concentration lapses. He is also a complete nutcase. He´s been sent off so many times in very stupid fashion. He has a very poor disciplinary record. It´s always the same thing with Rojo. He gets sent off and costs us a game and he starts getting booed and people at the stands say that we are better off selling him. But then he comes back and plays spectaculary again for 5 or 6 games till he does the same crappy judgement errors.
Key issue with Rojo is that he needs a mentally strong and disciplinarian manager. A manager with personality. It´s not a surprise that Rojo´s best phase at Sporting was last year with now Mónaco manager Leonardo Jardim. He was a very strict manager. I think Van Gaal could control and improve him even more. Ronaldo Koeman, with what he showed at Benfica, i highly doubt that.
FAN #2 : He isn't that good, had a solid World Cup to be fair to him but still. He's not a poor player but has too many concentration lapses and disciplinary issues, Southampton is about his level.
Cheers for that. I suppose that jives with that Italian journo who mentioned that prior to the World Cup, nobody would've bid 12m euros for him. I suppose that explains the lack of noise about him being seriously linked with anyone other than Southampton thus far (we were linked very briefly much earlier on).
I wasn't aware that Manquillo broke his neck six months ago tangling with Ronaldo
http://www.zonadeportiva.net/futbol...-borde-de-la-tragedia-tras-el-choque-con-cr7/
http://www.zonadeportiva.net/futbol...-borde-de-la-tragedia-tras-el-choque-con-cr7/
You need to see the video .... horrific.
Looks pretty horrible, he's on his head so quickly.
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Liverpool have agreed a fee with Sevilla for Alberto Moreno who is now expected to be pulled out of tonight's Super Cup game in Cardiff.
Liverpool have agreed a fee with Sevilla for Alberto Moreno who is now expected to be pulled out of tonight's Super Cup game in Cardiff.
Josemi was as slow as Julian Dicks aged 40 though. Manquillo can at least run which is always a good start.
Yep.
Was plain as day that Rodgers was playing him in pre season to put him on the market.
Real shame that he got his injury during the few years that he needed for development purposes.
If he stayed fit he could have been a very decent player.
£20mill = bad.
£12mill = great.
£12mill = great.
Net 8.5m if you take off the Reina fee.
/grasping at more straws.
Next player please...
Josemi had a superb debut though.
Roma pre season game?
I don't really get the point. Arbeloa and Finnan had solid debuts, Glen Johnson had a great debut against Spurs, but ultimately littered his career with mistakes and inconsistent form. There's examples of both sides of the coin everywhere. Yeah, it's too early to make judgements either way, but that would be the point. The way some people have written them both off straight away is pathetic, much the same as the way everyone seems to be expecting Markovic to be a hit, because he's more fashionable a transfer.
In fact, Arbeloa is a good comparison, because the response to his signing was one of similar derision, a Real Madrid reject who'd had one decent decent in La Liga. It's easy to judge it from the outside, look how he turned out.
Ok, there just seems to be a point being made over and over about Josemi, not just by you. There's are other debutants that have gone the other way, s'all.
You seem to make these points quite often. Who has 'written them off'? Glen and Skully are the only ones who seem to be super negative, but when are they not?
And why is Markovic a more 'fashionable' signing? What does fashionable even mean in this context?
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