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But without him being there, in exactly the right place for a pass so he could feint, it's extremely doubtful Sterling would have scored the first.

Watch every attack he wasn't directly involved in, the space he creates is huge, he 'takes players for a walk' (Shankly tm) constantly, running into channels & dropping deep before running into space & making at least two defenders switch positions.

Indeed but I think others can do the same.

Sturridge's biggest asset has been his scoring, which has been a little off of late. He should have scored a couple against City and was a bit greedy for me.
 
Him "ruining" an attack led to the corner for the second goal
Is that the attack where he took an age to make his mind up and played a ball that got blocked and led to a corner that lead to another corner that we scored from?
That's a pretty weak example.
 
At this stage of the season quite a few players are dragging themselves through games with pain killing injections and chronic pains and all they get for their efforts are body language critiques.

I'd rather start 11 fit players as proved by Glen Johnson's shocking performances when he played through the pain barrior for weeks on end.

I'm a massive Sturridge fan but not when he is performing and acting as he has in the last few games.

We are the most crucical stage of our recent history so I'd rather play a fully fit replacement than the Sturridge that's shown up lately.
 
And further than that, that it represents a 'blessing'.
You can put Allen in the middle and Countinho out wide.

I never said it would be a blessing, I said it could be.

Bottom line Sturridge has been very poor the last few games and doesn't seem right for whatever reason, so having him out may not be as bad as people fear.

Remember Suarez's most prolific games came when Sturridge was injured.
 
I'd rather start 11 fit players as proved by Glen Johnson's shocking performances when he played through the pain barrior for weeks on end.

I'm a massive Sturridge fan but not when he is performing and acting as he has in the last few games.

We are the most crucical stage of our recent history so I'd rather play a fully fit replacement than the Sturridge that's shown up lately.

I feel like this "Glen Johnson played through the pain and that's why he sucked" storyline really hard to believe.

Seems like exaggerated BS to compensate for a formerly good player's precipitous decline. Like the Reina apologists who claimed he just needed more time to adjust to our defensive system, and that's why he couldn't save anything.
 
I feel like this "Glen Johnson played through the pain and that's why he sucked" storyline really hard to believe.

Seems like exaggerated BS to compensate for a formerly good player's precipitous decline. Like the Reina apologists who claimed he just needed more time to adjust to our defensive system, and that's why he couldn't save anything.

It was BR himself who said GJ was playing 'injured' for a long time.
 
How is Allen inconsistent?

I'm taking the piss out of Dreamy, but how's he consistent? If he was consistently good, he'd be in the side more, no? When he's been good, he's looked the part, but he's backed up promising outings with sub-par ones. Contrary to getting carried away with the good performances, I don't think anyone who's being honest, could say that he's come good, yet.

I don't think that's biased, or unfair, I don't think many on here would argue.
 
I feel like this "Glen Johnson played through the pain and that's why he sucked" storyline really hard to believe.

Seems like exaggerated BS to compensate for a formerly good player's precipitous decline. Like the Reina apologists who claimed he just needed more time to adjust to our defensive system, and that's why he couldn't save anything.
That theory would hold more weight if
1. Johnson came back to the same shit level he left on. However he hasn't he's been superb since coming back.
2. Rodgers himself wasn't the source that declared Johnson played injured for the good if the team.
 
I'm taking the piss out of Dreamy, but how's he consistent? If he was consistently good, he'd be in the side more, no? When he's been good, he's looked the part, but he's backed up promising outings with sub-par ones. Contrary to getting carried away with the good performances, I don't think anyone who's being honest, could say that he's come good, yet.

I don't think that's biased, or unfair, I don't think many on here would argue.
I'm taking the piss out of Dreamy, but how's he consistent? If he was consistently good, he'd be in the side more, no? When he's been good, he's looked the part, but he's backed up promising outings with sub-par ones. Contrary to getting carried away with the good performances, I don't think anyone who's being honest, could say that he's come good, yet.

I don't think that's biased, or unfair, I don't think many on here would argue.
In fairness to Allen since he came back into the side a few months back with the diamond he's been top class and very unlucky to get dropped. As for where to play him you equally put him in the middle and Coutinho out wide. My main point was that if Sturridge is playing poorly because of an injury which isn't going to clear up in the next month then replacing him wouldn't be a disaster IMHO. Obviously a fully fit on form studge is preferred but he hasn't looked either of those things in the last 3 weeks.
People also seem to forget Suarez biggest purple patch was playing up top without him so it can be done.
 
Dreamy, apart from Sturridge's goals his pace and movement have caused opposition defences huge problems this season. He's difficult to mark and his movement has created huge swathes of space for Suarez, Sterling and Coutinho allowing them to wreak havoc. We will miss him hugely if he's out for the season.
 
Dreamy, apart from Sturridge's goals his pace and movement have caused opposition defences huge problems this season. He's difficult to mark and his movement has created huge swathes of space for Suarez, Sterling and Coutinho allowing them to wreak havoc. We will miss him hugely if he's out for the season.
Maybe. I can't see Norwich or Newcastle being difficult to beat at all. Palace shouldn't be difficult for our style either. Really the only game we could really do with Studge is Chelsea but I'm still pretty confident that we can break them down without him.
 
That theory would hold more weight if
1. Johnson came back to the same shit level he left on. However he hasn't he's been superb since coming back.
2. Rodgers himself wasn't the source that declared Johnson played injured for the good if the team.

1. At best he's been hot and cold. He was terrible against City.
2. "Rodgers himself wasn't the source that declared Johnson played injured for the good if the team." Wat.

Either way, I do believe to some extent Rodgers was giving an out to Johnson for his poor performances. At that point, us supporters were getting on his back a bit, I believe Rodgers exaggerated the injury claim to give Glenjo a bit of a kick in the ass. If he couldn't follow through with a few good performances after being given a giftwrapped excuse by Rodgers, then BR absolutely knows that Johnson shouldn't be in his squad plans for next season.

Either way though, this is a Sturridge thread. And you're a moron for thinking we're somehow a better side without Sturridge starting.
 
Maybe. I can't see Norwich or Newcastle being difficult to beat at all. Palace shouldn't be difficult for our style either. Really the only game we could really do with Studge is Chelsea but I'm still pretty confident that we can break them down without him.

You don't think Norwich & Palace will be difficult games? I think you're in for a nasty surprise unfortunately.
 
Norwich will be really tough as they're now right in the mix for relegation.
Palace will be tough as its Pulis and they're in great form.

All 4 games will be extremely difficult and the points shouldnt be taken for granted at all.
 
1. At best he's been hot and cold. He was terrible against City.
2. "Rodgers himself wasn't the source that declared Johnson played injured for the good if the team." Wat.

Either way, I do believe to some extent Rodgers was giving an out to Johnson for his poor performances. At that point, us supporters were getting on his back a bit, I believe Rodgers exaggerated the injury claim to give Glenjo a bit of a kick in the ass. If he couldn't follow through with a few good performances after being given a giftwrapped excuse by Rodgers, then BR absolutely knows that Johnson shouldn't be in his squad plans for next season.

Either way though, this is a Sturridge thread. And you're a moron for thinking we're somehow a better side without Sturridge starting.

Yes, "wasn't". Dreamy was saying your theory would hold more weight if Rodgers wasn't the source of the info.about Magic's injury. That bit of what he wrote makes perfectly good sense, though he's got the Sturridge issue round his neck. And if you want to give someone a kick in the @ss you don't make excuses for them. Mate, when you're in a hole, stop digging.
 
Yes, "wasn't". Dreamy was saying your theory would hold more weight if Rodgers wasn't the source of the info.about Magic's injury. That bit of what he wrote makes perfectly good sense, though he's got the Sturridge issue round his neck. And if you want to give someone a kick in the @ss you don't make excuses for them. Mate, when you're in a hole, stop digging.

I don't think DB can stop digging.
How do you think he ended up in Australia?
 
Suarez, Sturridge, Gerrard, Allen, Agger and Lucas have all missed games this season but the Red machine just kept going. It will be no different now whether Sturridge plays this weekend or not. He should be rested so that he is fit, firing and and ready for the Chavs game.
 
Magics has had excellent games since his return, but he's also had ones where he looked laboured and his passing was atrocious.

For me, against city he was shite. If they played a winger down their left side who stuck to the wing (unlike nasri/silva), it would have been very apparent.

Johnson when on song is marvellous, however he is inconsistent.
 
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