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Lets Sell Masher ASAP

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We are skint, he has a good value and reputation abroad.

If we can get £25-30 million for Masher I will take it. I have always said he is overated, a player of his talents should not cost that much, he contributes nothing going forward and the job he does very well can be achieved with a much cheaper player.

We need attacking players, more goals in tight games and he is hardly protecting the back four this year is he.

Lets spend the money on two attacking quality players and Lucas/Aqua can partner Stevie in the middle.

If Torres gets injured again then Stevie can move forward for those games.

We do not have enough money to just buy talent and Masher is an expensive asset we can afford to lose but we cannot afford not to buy more attacking/creative talent in January
 
Mascher isn't irreplaceable. He's great at what he does but is limited going forward. He'd be wonderful for Madrid or Barca with all their attacking talents. But there are about 15 others in our squad of 22 that should be shown the door before he is.
 
Fox, he is one of our best players. A very important player and by all accounts a big personality in the dressing room. A dressing room that has had Alonso and Hyypia leave it already this year. We need to be adding quality to our squad not removing it.

Wise up man.
 
imho these are our 'untouchables'

torres
gerrard
johnson
riena
masher
kuyt
carra

guaranteed starters if fit, if things went tits up and we HAD to sell this is the order I'd sell

kuyt
masher
carra
johnson
riena
torres
gerrard
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37118.msg986116#msg986116 date=1257938879]
He's not controversial
He's just fucking stupid

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There's another 6cm t-shirt right there. We should have a range of them available for sale.
 
get in the real world lads

How much money will Lucas get us, £3 million?

We need cash to buy attacking talent and the only player we have that can get us some good cash and is not irreplacable is Masher.

We are not a cash rich club, Rafa has no money to spend and you lot have your heads up your arse if you think otherwise.

Selling Masher is a decent way to raise the cash without destroying our team, Aqualini/Stevie/Lucas or even the ressie CM can cover for Masher.

What is your solution to a major problem then?
 
not that I'm I think masher should be sold but if we did get rid for (as an example) 30mil and bought diarra for 18m (again, an example) I think that would be a good deal. he isn't irreplaceable. far easier to replace someone like masher than some like alonso*

*alonso only passes the ball. fucking hell who on earth said THAT?
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=37118.msg986123#msg986123 date=1257939462]
Selling Masher is a decent way to raise the cash without destroying our team, Aqualini/Stevie/Lucas or even the ressie CM can cover for Masher.

What is your solution to a major problem then?
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Aquilani is a crock. Gerrard seems to be injury prone these days. Lucas has proven he isn't good enough to be a regular starter for Liverpool. Selling Mascherano would be a fucking disaster.
 
Mascher's as close to irreplaceable as Alonso was. Diarra is a fine player, with a wider range of skills than Mascher, but even he won't protect the back four equally well. Sell Mascher and EVERYBODY will have to do more tracking back - not exactly a good way to get us moving forward. If he insists on leaving we'll just have to get on with it, but anybody still insisting that it won't be a major loss to us is unhealthily good at kidding themselves.
 
'Masher is not protecting our back four very well, is he?'

So your solution to our defensive problems is to sell our best DM and not even bother replacing him? And you think this will improve things?

FWIW, I reckon Masher will be sold at the end of the season - not because it's a good idea for us, but because he wants to play for Barcelona. But he will be very hard to adequately replace, and whoever fills his boots will probably cost in the region of £15-20m.

Just because DM is not a 'sexy' position doesn't mean it's not hugely important.
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=37118.msg986123#msg986123 date=1257939462]
What is your solution to a major problem then?
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Well, trying to solve a major problem by creating another one isn't really the way forward in my opinion.
 
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[quote author=Fox link=topic=37118.msg986123#msg986123 date=1257939462]
Selling Masher is a decent way to raise the cash without destroying our team, Aqualini/Stevie/Lucas or even the ressie CM can cover for Masher.

What is your solution to a major problem then?
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Aquilani is a crock. Gerrard seems to be injury prone these days. Lucas has proven he isn't good enough to be a regular starter for Liverpool. Selling Mascherano would be a fucking disaster.
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as opposed to having no money to buy anyone to provide some more squad creativity and goals ???

In an ideal world we would keep Masher and have £25 million to spend but it is not going to happen.

Selling Masher in Jan and buying two or three quality players would negate the con of selling him.

Its not like we are using him to keep things tight for us is it, we are shedding shit loads of goals.

IMO the type of player Masher is should never be a £20 million plus man, he is not worth that and if someone is willing to spend it go for it.

Diarra and Carlton Cole for Masher for example, would that improve our squad?
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=37118.msg986133#msg986133 date=1257939854]
Mascher's as close to irreplaceable as Alonso was. Diarra is a fine player, with a wider range of skills than Mascher, but even he won't protect the back four equally well. Sell Mascher and EVERYBODY will have to do more tracking back - not exactly a good way to get us moving forward. If he insists on leaving we'll just have to get on with it, but anybody still insisting that it won't be a major loss to us is unhealthily good at kidding themselves.
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someone needs to tell the back four this, I think they've missed the memo.
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=37118.msg986137#msg986137 date=1257939995]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=37118.msg986129#msg986129 date=1257939693]
[quote author=Fox link=topic=37118.msg986123#msg986123 date=1257939462]
Selling Masher is a decent way to raise the cash without destroying our team, Aqualini/Stevie/Lucas or even the ressie CM can cover for Masher.

What is your solution to a major problem then?
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Aquilani is a crock. Gerrard seems to be injury prone these days. Lucas has proven he isn't good enough to be a regular starter for Liverpool. Selling Mascherano would be a fucking disaster.
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as opposed to having no money to buy anyone to provide some more squad creativity and goals ???

In an ideal world we would keep Masher and have £25 million to spend but it is not going to happen.

Selling Masher in Jan and buying two or three quality players would negate the con of selling him.

Its not like we are using him to keep things tight for us is it, we are shedding shit loads of goals.

IMO the type of player Masher is should never be a £20 million plus man, he is not worth that and if someone is willing to spend it go for it.

Diarra and Carlton Cole for Masher for example, would that improve our squad?




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You're living in a dreamland. Diarra would cost almost as much as Mascherano would fetch. And you expect us to sign a 26-yr-old England international striker for the spare change between the two values?
 
Macca, that is a great idea indeed

PM ross and oncey, this could be a real money-spinner

6cm t-shirt ideas deserves its own thread

I want a 'Kaka = Hitler' one for Xmas

Or maybe 'Hamaan is a cunt'

(I assume he's been banned, so I'm allowed to say that)

How about

'Lucas is a real Brazilian' with a picture of a waved fanny?
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=37118.msg986137#msg986137 date=1257939995]
Diarra and Carlton Cole for Masher for example, would that improve our squad?

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Madrid wouldn't sell Diarra on the cheap. You could maybe get Flamini and Cole at a push if you wish.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=37118.msg986134#msg986134 date=1257939961]
'Masher is not protecting our back four very well, is he?'

So your solution to our defensive problems is to sell our best DM and not even bother replacing him? And you think this will improve things?

FWIW, I reckon Masher will be sold at the end of the season - not because it's a good idea for us, but because he wants to play for Barcelona. But he will be very hard to adequately replace, and whoever fills his boots will probably cost in the region of £15-20m.

Just because DM is not a 'sexy' position doesn't mean it's not hugely important.

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That bolded bit is bollocks anyway. If it hadn't been for Mascher we'd have had an even worse record this season. He can't do it all on his own FFS.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=37118.msg986140#msg986140 date=1257940097]
[quote author=Fox link=topic=37118.msg986137#msg986137 date=1257939995]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=37118.msg986129#msg986129 date=1257939693]
[quote author=Fox link=topic=37118.msg986123#msg986123 date=1257939462]
Selling Masher is a decent way to raise the cash without destroying our team, Aqualini/Stevie/Lucas or even the ressie CM can cover for Masher.

What is your solution to a major problem then?
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Aquilani is a crock. Gerrard seems to be injury prone these days. Lucas has proven he isn't good enough to be a regular starter for Liverpool. Selling Mascherano would be a fucking disaster.
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as opposed to having no money to buy anyone to provide some more squad creativity and goals ???

In an ideal world we would keep Masher and have £25 million to spend but it is not going to happen.

Selling Masher in Jan and buying two or three quality players would negate the con of selling him.

Its not like we are using him to keep things tight for us is it, we are shedding shit loads of goals.

IMO the type of player Masher is should never be a £20 million plus man, he is not worth that and if someone is willing to spend it go for it.

Diarra and Carlton Cole for Masher for example, would that improve our squad?




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You're living in a dreamland. Diarra would cost almost as much as Mascherano would fetch. And you expect us to sign a 24-yr-old England international striker for the spare change between the two values?

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Even if we had to sell one more fringe player to get £2-4 million more to do the swap I think it would put our squad in a better place.

We have a world class striker who is looking injury prone and have to do something to fix this, that problem is bigger than the problem losing Masher would cause

think about it
 
[quote author=Fox link=topic=37118.msg986146#msg986146 date=1257940283]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=37118.msg986140#msg986140 date=1257940097]
[quote author=Fox link=topic=37118.msg986137#msg986137 date=1257939995]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=37118.msg986129#msg986129 date=1257939693]
[quote author=Fox link=topic=37118.msg986123#msg986123 date=1257939462]
Selling Masher is a decent way to raise the cash without destroying our team, Aqualini/Stevie/Lucas or even the ressie CM can cover for Masher.

What is your solution to a major problem then?
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Aquilani is a crock. Gerrard seems to be injury prone these days. Lucas has proven he isn't good enough to be a regular starter for Liverpool. Selling Mascherano would be a fucking disaster.
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as opposed to having no money to buy anyone to provide some more squad creativity and goals ???

In an ideal world we would keep Masher and have £25 million to spend but it is not going to happen.

Selling Masher in Jan and buying two or three quality players would negate the con of selling him.

Its not like we are using him to keep things tight for us is it, we are shedding shit loads of goals.

IMO the type of player Masher is should never be a £20 million plus man, he is not worth that and if someone is willing to spend it go for it.

Diarra and Carlton Cole for Masher for example, would that improve our squad?




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You're living in a dreamland. Diarra would cost almost as much as Mascherano would fetch. And you expect us to sign a 24-yr-old England international striker for the spare change between the two values?

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Even if we had to sell one more fringe player to get £2-4 million more to do the swap I think it would put our squad in a better place.

We have a world class striker who is looking injury prone and have to do something to fix this, that problem is bigger than the problem losing Masher would cause

think about it
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How much do you think Carlton Cole would cost?
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=37118.msg986145#msg986145 date=1257940256]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=37118.msg986134#msg986134 date=1257939961]
'Masher is not protecting our back four very well, is he?'

So your solution to our defensive problems is to sell our best DM and not even bother replacing him? And you think this will improve things?

FWIW, I reckon Masher will be sold at the end of the season - not because it's a good idea for us, but because he wants to play for Barcelona. But he will be very hard to adequately replace, and whoever fills his boots will probably cost in the region of £15-20m.

Just because DM is not a 'sexy' position doesn't mean it's not hugely important.

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That bolded bit is bollocks anyway. If it hadn't been for Mascher we'd have had an even worse record this season. He can't do it all on his own FFS.
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I know, JJ. That was my point.
 
On a serious note, while Masher is an important player, there can be no arguments about his form this season; it's been erratic to poor
 
He admittedly hasn't turned up in every game, but who has? Against the bigger sides he's done well, as per, and even when his own game isn't clicking he's always a nuisance to the opposition, which is more than we've been able to say for too many of our players this season.
 
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