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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48522.msg1475430#msg1475430 date=1328098493]
One day, when you take an objective look at all of the facts you'll realise all Rafa cared about was himsel. I'm delighted we have a manager who has the best interests of the club at heart.
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I don't really believe that first sentence there Ross, not for a minute. Should he have dealt with it differently ? Absolutely yes but I'm fairly convinced he had what he felt was the clubs and fans best interests at heart whatever his shortcomings were elsewhere.
One day, when you take an objective look at all of the facts you'll realise all Rafa cared about was himsel. I'm delighted we have a manager who has the best interests of the club at heart.
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I don't really believe that first sentence there Ross, not for a minute. Should he have dealt with it differently ? Absolutely yes but I'm fairly convinced he had what he felt was the clubs and fans best interests at heart whatever his shortcomings were elsewhere.
[quote author=localny link=topic=48522.msg1475452#msg1475452 date=1328100232]
Rosco - how goes it? Listen we clearly needed a striker this window. At minimum. We've had a nkce run of three big games - and that is the only reason there has been no gnashing of the teeth. IMHO nothing to do with the manager's p's and q's.
As for objectivity, maybe he was a me feiner, but I still get giddy remembering mid week CL games from 2005-2009.
I'm sorry, but having read Brian Reade's book, I can't for the life of me see how you can think rafa somehow brought it on himself.
I'm not sure I would have wanted a docile, compliant manager with those 2 in charge. Kenny had a more stable ownership structure. Can you imagine how he would have reacted to them? Apples and oranges.
Yes Rafa signed dross but he also signed masher, alonso, Torres and more. Every manager signs dross - its just kenny's signed his "veron" in the first month!
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Good post.
Rosco - how goes it? Listen we clearly needed a striker this window. At minimum. We've had a nkce run of three big games - and that is the only reason there has been no gnashing of the teeth. IMHO nothing to do with the manager's p's and q's.
As for objectivity, maybe he was a me feiner, but I still get giddy remembering mid week CL games from 2005-2009.
I'm sorry, but having read Brian Reade's book, I can't for the life of me see how you can think rafa somehow brought it on himself.
I'm not sure I would have wanted a docile, compliant manager with those 2 in charge. Kenny had a more stable ownership structure. Can you imagine how he would have reacted to them? Apples and oranges.
Yes Rafa signed dross but he also signed masher, alonso, Torres and more. Every manager signs dross - its just kenny's signed his "veron" in the first month!
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Good post.
[quote author=themn link=topic=48522.msg1475454#msg1475454 date=1328100475]
"Best manager in 20 years" ?
What about Ged ?
Doesn't he get a look in ?
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Well, "best in 20 years" doesn't actually mean the others were all cr@p, but I'd definitely rank Rafa ahead of GH. We needed GH to clean house after the drifting under Uncle Roy, and the Treble of course was magnificent, but GH would never have won the CL. In fact it took Rafa to do so with what was substantially GH's squad.
"Best manager in 20 years" ?
What about Ged ?
Doesn't he get a look in ?
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Well, "best in 20 years" doesn't actually mean the others were all cr@p, but I'd definitely rank Rafa ahead of GH. We needed GH to clean house after the drifting under Uncle Roy, and the Treble of course was magnificent, but GH would never have won the CL. In fact it took Rafa to do so with what was substantially GH's squad.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48522.msg1475467#msg1475467 date=1328101531]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48522.msg1475430#msg1475430 date=1328098493]
One day, when you take an objective look at all of the facts you'll realise all Rafa cared about was himsel. I'm delighted we have a manager who has the best interests of the club at heart.
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I don't really believe that first sentence there Ross, not for a minute. Should he have dealt with it differently ? Absolutely yes but I'm fairly convinced he had what he felt was the clubs and fans best interests at heart whatever his shortcomings were elsewhere.
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Yup, I think Rafa wanted good for LFC, not all self serving as alluded.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48522.msg1475430#msg1475430 date=1328098493]
One day, when you take an objective look at all of the facts you'll realise all Rafa cared about was himsel. I'm delighted we have a manager who has the best interests of the club at heart.
[/quote]
I don't really believe that first sentence there Ross, not for a minute. Should he have dealt with it differently ? Absolutely yes but I'm fairly convinced he had what he felt was the clubs and fans best interests at heart whatever his shortcomings were elsewhere.
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Yup, I think Rafa wanted good for LFC, not all self serving as alluded.
[quote author=localny link=topic=48522.msg1475416#msg1475416 date=1328097723]
VLAD, surely rafa did those things here because the situation was just so dire here. H&G would not have brought out the best in anyone. And he did us a favor. Otherwise we'd have fecking klinsmann. Roscoe how sharper than a serpents tooth...
Life is full of ups and downs. To negate our best manager in 20 years just because it wasn't all peachy I will never get.
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The Valencia president referred to him as both power hungry and self obsessed, neither Hicks and Gillet, even after their breakdown in relationship, ever trusted him, and Morrati had problems with him mouthing off in the press just months after his arrival. He used the H&G issue to his advantage and manipulated the fans against a greater mutual enemy, if only people could take the blinkers off they would see that.
I also know he has a very decent side to him, but people really do need to accept what he was really like. There is too much evidence of owners and presidents with issues, players at both Liverpool and Valencia with major issues with him , ask yourself what happened to the Valencia players that were meant to follow him here.
regards
VLAD, surely rafa did those things here because the situation was just so dire here. H&G would not have brought out the best in anyone. And he did us a favor. Otherwise we'd have fecking klinsmann. Roscoe how sharper than a serpents tooth...
Life is full of ups and downs. To negate our best manager in 20 years just because it wasn't all peachy I will never get.
[/quote]
The Valencia president referred to him as both power hungry and self obsessed, neither Hicks and Gillet, even after their breakdown in relationship, ever trusted him, and Morrati had problems with him mouthing off in the press just months after his arrival. He used the H&G issue to his advantage and manipulated the fans against a greater mutual enemy, if only people could take the blinkers off they would see that.
I also know he has a very decent side to him, but people really do need to accept what he was really like. There is too much evidence of owners and presidents with issues, players at both Liverpool and Valencia with major issues with him , ask yourself what happened to the Valencia players that were meant to follow him here.
regards
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=48522.msg1475488#msg1475488 date=1328102745]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48522.msg1475467#msg1475467 date=1328101531]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48522.msg1475430#msg1475430 date=1328098493]
One day, when you take an objective look at all of the facts you'll realise all Rafa cared about was himsel. I'm delighted we have a manager who has the best interests of the club at heart.
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I don't really believe that first sentence there Ross, not for a minute. Should he have dealt with it differently ? Absolutely yes but I'm fairly convinced he had what he felt was the clubs and fans best interests at heart whatever his shortcomings were elsewhere.
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Yup, I think Rafa wanted good for LFC, not all self serving as alluded.
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Agreed. Rafa *was* keen to look after No.1, but he genuinely thought he was benefiting the club in the process. And at times he was right.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48522.msg1475467#msg1475467 date=1328101531]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48522.msg1475430#msg1475430 date=1328098493]
One day, when you take an objective look at all of the facts you'll realise all Rafa cared about was himsel. I'm delighted we have a manager who has the best interests of the club at heart.
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I don't really believe that first sentence there Ross, not for a minute. Should he have dealt with it differently ? Absolutely yes but I'm fairly convinced he had what he felt was the clubs and fans best interests at heart whatever his shortcomings were elsewhere.
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Yup, I think Rafa wanted good for LFC, not all self serving as alluded.
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Agreed. Rafa *was* keen to look after No.1, but he genuinely thought he was benefiting the club in the process. And at times he was right.
Oh yes , I agree with that, I think whatever he did or said was done so genuinely in the best interests of the club, I think he had that at heart of everything he did, but was wrong in the way he went about it and thought his way was the only way and was too stubborn and ye, too self obsessed to listen to another way, and as soon as people questioned him they were cut loose.
regards
regards
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=48522.msg1475490#msg1475490 date=1328102906]
[quote author=localny link=topic=48522.msg1475416#msg1475416 date=1328097723]
VLAD, surely rafa did those things here because the situation was just so dire here. H&G would not have brought out the best in anyone. And he did us a favor. Otherwise we'd have fecking klinsmann. Roscoe how sharper than a serpents tooth...
Life is full of ups and downs. To negate our best manager in 20 years just because it wasn't all peachy I will never get.
[/quote]
The Valencia president referred to him as both power hungry and self obsessed, neither Hicks and Gillet, even after their breakdown in relationship, ever trusted him, and Morrati had problems with him mouthing off in the press just months after his arrival. He used the H&G issue to his advantage and manipulated the fans against a greater mutual enemy, if only people could take the blinkers off they would see that.
I also know he has a very decent side to him, but people really do need to accept what he was really like. There is too much evidence of owners and presidents with issues, players at both Liverpool and Valencia with major issues with him , ask yourself what happened to the Valencia players that were meant to follow him here.
regards
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Mauricio Pellegrino
Birthdate: 05.10.1971
Birthplace: Leones Argentina
Other clubs: Velez Sarsfield, Barcelona (loan), Valencia, Alaves
[size=14pt]Bought from: Valencia[/size]
Signed for LFC: Free 05.01.2005
International debut: 11th June 1997 vs Equador
International caps: 3/0 (None at LFC) - 17.06.1997
Liverpool debut: 15.01.2005
Last appearance: 15.05.2005
Contract expiry: 17.06.2005
LFC league games/goals: 12 / 0
Total LFC games/goals: 13 / 0
Mohamed Sissoko
Birthdate: 22.01.1985
Birthplace: Mont Saint Agnain France
Other clubs: Auxerre, Brest (on loan), Valencia, Juventus
[size=14pt]Bought from: Valencia[/size]
Signed for LFC: 5600000 14.07.2005
International debut: 19.11.2003 vs. Morocco?
International caps: Mali 26/2 (unconfirmed)
Liverpool debut: 26.07.2005
Last appearance: 19.12.2007
Debut goal: 25.08.2007
Last goal: 25.08.2007
Contract expiry: 28.01.2008
LFC league games/goals: 51 / 1
Total LFC games/goals: 87 / 1
Fábio Aurélio
Birthdate: 24.09.1979
Birthplace: São Carlos Brazil
Other clubs: São Paolo, Valencia
Bought from: [size=14pt]Valencia[/size]
Signed for LFC: Bosman / Free 05.07.2006 / 31.07.2010
Liverpool debut: 13.08.2006
Last appearance: 31.01.2012
Debut goal: 02.03.2008
Last goal: 14.04.2009
Contract expiry: 2012
LFC league games/goals: 86 / 3
Total LFC games/goals: 133 / 4
Name any other manager ever to have brought more than 3 players from his old club?
[quote author=localny link=topic=48522.msg1475416#msg1475416 date=1328097723]
VLAD, surely rafa did those things here because the situation was just so dire here. H&G would not have brought out the best in anyone. And he did us a favor. Otherwise we'd have fecking klinsmann. Roscoe how sharper than a serpents tooth...
Life is full of ups and downs. To negate our best manager in 20 years just because it wasn't all peachy I will never get.
[/quote]
The Valencia president referred to him as both power hungry and self obsessed, neither Hicks and Gillet, even after their breakdown in relationship, ever trusted him, and Morrati had problems with him mouthing off in the press just months after his arrival. He used the H&G issue to his advantage and manipulated the fans against a greater mutual enemy, if only people could take the blinkers off they would see that.
I also know he has a very decent side to him, but people really do need to accept what he was really like. There is too much evidence of owners and presidents with issues, players at both Liverpool and Valencia with major issues with him , ask yourself what happened to the Valencia players that were meant to follow him here.
regards
[/quote]
Mauricio Pellegrino
Birthdate: 05.10.1971
Birthplace: Leones Argentina
Other clubs: Velez Sarsfield, Barcelona (loan), Valencia, Alaves
[size=14pt]Bought from: Valencia[/size]
Signed for LFC: Free 05.01.2005
International debut: 11th June 1997 vs Equador
International caps: 3/0 (None at LFC) - 17.06.1997
Liverpool debut: 15.01.2005
Last appearance: 15.05.2005
Contract expiry: 17.06.2005
LFC league games/goals: 12 / 0
Total LFC games/goals: 13 / 0
Mohamed Sissoko
Birthdate: 22.01.1985
Birthplace: Mont Saint Agnain France
Other clubs: Auxerre, Brest (on loan), Valencia, Juventus
[size=14pt]Bought from: Valencia[/size]
Signed for LFC: 5600000 14.07.2005
International debut: 19.11.2003 vs. Morocco?
International caps: Mali 26/2 (unconfirmed)
Liverpool debut: 26.07.2005
Last appearance: 19.12.2007
Debut goal: 25.08.2007
Last goal: 25.08.2007
Contract expiry: 28.01.2008
LFC league games/goals: 51 / 1
Total LFC games/goals: 87 / 1
Fábio Aurélio
Birthdate: 24.09.1979
Birthplace: São Carlos Brazil
Other clubs: São Paolo, Valencia
Bought from: [size=14pt]Valencia[/size]
Signed for LFC: Bosman / Free 05.07.2006 / 31.07.2010
Liverpool debut: 13.08.2006
Last appearance: 31.01.2012
Debut goal: 02.03.2008
Last goal: 14.04.2009
Contract expiry: 2012
LFC league games/goals: 86 / 3
Total LFC games/goals: 133 / 4
Name any other manager ever to have brought more than 3 players from his old club?
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48522.msg1475492#msg1475492 date=1328103052]
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=48522.msg1475488#msg1475488 date=1328102745]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48522.msg1475467#msg1475467 date=1328101531]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48522.msg1475430#msg1475430 date=1328098493]
One day, when you take an objective look at all of the facts you'll realise all Rafa cared about was himsel. I'm delighted we have a manager who has the best interests of the club at heart.
[/quote]
I don't really believe that first sentence there Ross, not for a minute. Should he have dealt with it differently ? Absolutely yes but I'm fairly convinced he had what he felt was the clubs and fans best interests at heart whatever his shortcomings were elsewhere.
[/quote]
Yup, I think Rafa wanted good for LFC, not all self serving as alluded.
[/quote]
Agreed. Rafa *was* keen to look after No.1, but he genuinely thought he was benefiting the club in the process. And at times he was right.
[/quote]
A deluded megalomaniac? But I do not see that true, at least not most of the time.
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=48522.msg1475488#msg1475488 date=1328102745]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48522.msg1475467#msg1475467 date=1328101531]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48522.msg1475430#msg1475430 date=1328098493]
One day, when you take an objective look at all of the facts you'll realise all Rafa cared about was himsel. I'm delighted we have a manager who has the best interests of the club at heart.
[/quote]
I don't really believe that first sentence there Ross, not for a minute. Should he have dealt with it differently ? Absolutely yes but I'm fairly convinced he had what he felt was the clubs and fans best interests at heart whatever his shortcomings were elsewhere.
[/quote]
Yup, I think Rafa wanted good for LFC, not all self serving as alluded.
[/quote]
Agreed. Rafa *was* keen to look after No.1, but he genuinely thought he was benefiting the club in the process. And at times he was right.
[/quote]
A deluded megalomaniac? But I do not see that true, at least not most of the time.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48522.msg1475467#msg1475467 date=1328101531]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48522.msg1475430#msg1475430 date=1328098493]
One day, when you take an objective look at all of the facts you'll realise all Rafa cared about was himsel. I'm delighted we have a manager who has the best interests of the club at heart.
[/quote]
I don't really believe that first sentence there Ross, not for a minute. Should he have dealt with it differently ? Absolutely yes but I'm fairly convinced he had what he felt was the clubs and fans best interests at heart whatever his shortcomings were elsewhere.
[/quote]
If you judge him on his words you might think he cared.
I've said loads of times I prefer to judge people on their actions.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48522.msg1475430#msg1475430 date=1328098493]
One day, when you take an objective look at all of the facts you'll realise all Rafa cared about was himsel. I'm delighted we have a manager who has the best interests of the club at heart.
[/quote]
I don't really believe that first sentence there Ross, not for a minute. Should he have dealt with it differently ? Absolutely yes but I'm fairly convinced he had what he felt was the clubs and fans best interests at heart whatever his shortcomings were elsewhere.
[/quote]
If you judge him on his words you might think he cared.
I've said loads of times I prefer to judge people on their actions.
Fucking Hell, if he hadn't have let us all know what the 2 bandits was up to, Liverpool FC would probably be in Liquidation now, and thats not in jest!
Those Cowboys was trying to strip the club of all its wealth and put it in thier own pockets, Benitez most likely saved Liverpool FC with his actions!
Those Cowboys was trying to strip the club of all its wealth and put it in thier own pockets, Benitez most likely saved Liverpool FC with his actions!
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48522.msg1475260#msg1475260 date=1328085265]
what the media headlines would be like if we had Rafa in charge ?
We just had a transfer window where we signed no senior players. I think that might be the first time that has ever happened.
Why isn't Kenny in the media talking about how he's not being backed and how he wanted to buy player x but wasn't given the funds ? Is he secure enough in himself to know he doesn't have to create bullshit excuses to justify his position ? Or does he simply respect the Liverpool way ?
The point being, when people talked about the media circus and "instability" created by the constant media stories under Rafa you failed to acknowledge where a lot of those stories came from. We've now got a manager who genuinely puts the club first, not his reputation.
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Oh and by the way
January 2009 No one bought
January 2010 One free transfer
And thee media has been full of 'The money is their if Kenny wants it' statements from the owners....
what the media headlines would be like if we had Rafa in charge ?
We just had a transfer window where we signed no senior players. I think that might be the first time that has ever happened.
Why isn't Kenny in the media talking about how he's not being backed and how he wanted to buy player x but wasn't given the funds ? Is he secure enough in himself to know he doesn't have to create bullshit excuses to justify his position ? Or does he simply respect the Liverpool way ?
The point being, when people talked about the media circus and "instability" created by the constant media stories under Rafa you failed to acknowledge where a lot of those stories came from. We've now got a manager who genuinely puts the club first, not his reputation.
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Oh and by the way
January 2009 No one bought
January 2010 One free transfer
And thee media has been full of 'The money is their if Kenny wants it' statements from the owners....
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=48522.msg1475498#msg1475498 date=1328103399]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=48522.msg1475490#msg1475490 date=1328102906]
[quote author=localny link=topic=48522.msg1475416#msg1475416 date=1328097723]
VLAD, surely rafa did those things here because the situation was just so dire here. H&G would not have brought out the best in anyone. And he did us a favor. Otherwise we'd have fecking klinsmann. Roscoe how sharper than a serpents tooth...
Life is full of ups and downs. To negate our best manager in 20 years just because it wasn't all peachy I will never get.
[/quote]
The Valencia president referred to him as both power hungry and self obsessed, neither Hicks and Gillet, even after their breakdown in relationship, ever trusted him, and Morrati had problems with him mouthing off in the press just months after his arrival. He used the H&G issue to his advantage and manipulated the fans against a greater mutual enemy, if only people could take the blinkers off they would see that.
I also know he has a very decent side to him, but people really do need to accept what he was really like. There is too much evidence of owners and presidents with issues, players at both Liverpool and Valencia with major issues with him , ask yourself what happened to the Valencia players that were meant to follow him here.
regards
[/quote]
Mauricio Pellegrino
Birthdate: 05.10.1971
Birthplace: Leones Argentina
Other clubs: Velez Sarsfield, Barcelona (loan), Valencia, Alaves
[size=14pt]Bought from: Valencia[/size]
Signed for LFC: Free 05.01.2005
International debut: 11th June 1997 vs Equador
International caps: 3/0 (None at LFC) - 17.06.1997
Liverpool debut: 15.01.2005
Last appearance: 15.05.2005
Contract expiry: 17.06.2005
LFC league games/goals: 12 / 0
Total LFC games/goals: 13 / 0
Mohamed Sissoko
Birthdate: 22.01.1985
Birthplace: Mont Saint Agnain France
Other clubs: Auxerre, Brest (on loan), Valencia, Juventus
[size=14pt]Bought from: Valencia[/size]
Signed for LFC: 5600000 14.07.2005
International debut: 19.11.2003 vs. Morocco?
International caps: Mali 26/2 (unconfirmed)
Liverpool debut: 26.07.2005
Last appearance: 19.12.2007
Debut goal: 25.08.2007
Last goal: 25.08.2007
Contract expiry: 28.01.2008
LFC league games/goals: 51 / 1
Total LFC games/goals: 87 / 1
Fábio Aurélio
Birthdate: 24.09.1979
Birthplace: São Carlos Brazil
Other clubs: São Paolo, Valencia
Bought from: [size=14pt]Valencia[/size]
Signed for LFC: Bosman / Free 05.07.2006 / 31.07.2010
Liverpool debut: 13.08.2006
Last appearance: 31.01.2012
Debut goal: 02.03.2008
Last goal: 14.04.2009
Contract expiry: 2012
LFC league games/goals: 86 / 3
Total LFC games/goals: 133 / 4
Name any other manager ever to have brought more than 3 players from his old club?
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Hahaha, fuck off Asbo I was talking about proper players not flotsam and jetsam , Aimar and Ayala and the likes, not typical Benitez foot soldiers,
hahahaha
regards
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=48522.msg1475490#msg1475490 date=1328102906]
[quote author=localny link=topic=48522.msg1475416#msg1475416 date=1328097723]
VLAD, surely rafa did those things here because the situation was just so dire here. H&G would not have brought out the best in anyone. And he did us a favor. Otherwise we'd have fecking klinsmann. Roscoe how sharper than a serpents tooth...
Life is full of ups and downs. To negate our best manager in 20 years just because it wasn't all peachy I will never get.
[/quote]
The Valencia president referred to him as both power hungry and self obsessed, neither Hicks and Gillet, even after their breakdown in relationship, ever trusted him, and Morrati had problems with him mouthing off in the press just months after his arrival. He used the H&G issue to his advantage and manipulated the fans against a greater mutual enemy, if only people could take the blinkers off they would see that.
I also know he has a very decent side to him, but people really do need to accept what he was really like. There is too much evidence of owners and presidents with issues, players at both Liverpool and Valencia with major issues with him , ask yourself what happened to the Valencia players that were meant to follow him here.
regards
[/quote]
Mauricio Pellegrino
Birthdate: 05.10.1971
Birthplace: Leones Argentina
Other clubs: Velez Sarsfield, Barcelona (loan), Valencia, Alaves
[size=14pt]Bought from: Valencia[/size]
Signed for LFC: Free 05.01.2005
International debut: 11th June 1997 vs Equador
International caps: 3/0 (None at LFC) - 17.06.1997
Liverpool debut: 15.01.2005
Last appearance: 15.05.2005
Contract expiry: 17.06.2005
LFC league games/goals: 12 / 0
Total LFC games/goals: 13 / 0
Mohamed Sissoko
Birthdate: 22.01.1985
Birthplace: Mont Saint Agnain France
Other clubs: Auxerre, Brest (on loan), Valencia, Juventus
[size=14pt]Bought from: Valencia[/size]
Signed for LFC: 5600000 14.07.2005
International debut: 19.11.2003 vs. Morocco?
International caps: Mali 26/2 (unconfirmed)
Liverpool debut: 26.07.2005
Last appearance: 19.12.2007
Debut goal: 25.08.2007
Last goal: 25.08.2007
Contract expiry: 28.01.2008
LFC league games/goals: 51 / 1
Total LFC games/goals: 87 / 1
Fábio Aurélio
Birthdate: 24.09.1979
Birthplace: São Carlos Brazil
Other clubs: São Paolo, Valencia
Bought from: [size=14pt]Valencia[/size]
Signed for LFC: Bosman / Free 05.07.2006 / 31.07.2010
Liverpool debut: 13.08.2006
Last appearance: 31.01.2012
Debut goal: 02.03.2008
Last goal: 14.04.2009
Contract expiry: 2012
LFC league games/goals: 86 / 3
Total LFC games/goals: 133 / 4
Name any other manager ever to have brought more than 3 players from his old club?
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Hahaha, fuck off Asbo I was talking about proper players not flotsam and jetsam , Aimar and Ayala and the likes, not typical Benitez foot soldiers,
hahahaha
regards
:laugh: it was a nice try by Asbo, mind 🙂
Rafa is definitely a handful. But aren't most good managers?
He definitely had the clubs heart beating in him and he probably read "the prince" once too often, but the joy he gave me, the games we won, the mid week nights, the game versus chelsea in 2005 (when I was on my honeymoon!). It washes away any negatives for me really. I just consider it all a little hyper critical. Maybe because deep down critics know he could have been much better but for his flaws. Good times.
Rafa is definitely a handful. But aren't most good managers?
He definitely had the clubs heart beating in him and he probably read "the prince" once too often, but the joy he gave me, the games we won, the mid week nights, the game versus chelsea in 2005 (when I was on my honeymoon!). It washes away any negatives for me really. I just consider it all a little hyper critical. Maybe because deep down critics know he could have been much better but for his flaws. Good times.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=48522.msg1475515#msg1475515 date=1328104843]
Hahaha, fuck off Asbo I was talking about proper players not flotsam and jetsam , Aimar and Ayala and the likes, not typical Benitez foot soldiers,
hahahaha
regards
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Obviously Rafas fault. We definitely should have spent our entire transfer budget on Aimar or Ayala.
Hahaha, fuck off Asbo I was talking about proper players not flotsam and jetsam , Aimar and Ayala and the likes, not typical Benitez foot soldiers,
hahahaha
regards
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Obviously Rafas fault. We definitely should have spent our entire transfer budget on Aimar or Ayala.
Come on we don't really want to get into an argument over the worth of Aurellio who has started an average of 9.5 premier games a year since his arrival and decreasing, Sissoko the headless chicken, yes a great bit of business and no wonder Juve ended up in dire financial straits and fucking Pellegrino, I would advise against it personally old chum 😉
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:laugh: it was a nice try by Asbo, mind 🙂
Rafa is definitely a handful. But aren't most good managers?
He definitely had the clubs heart beating in him and he probably read "the prince" once too often, but the joy he gave me, the games we won, the mid week nights, the game versus chelsea in 2005 (when I was on my honeymoon!). It washes away any negatives for me really. I just consider it all a little hyper critical. Maybe because deep down critics know he could have been much better but for his flaws. Good times.
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Nice try?
I'm fucking right my mate ;D
Fabio is still here 6 years after Rafa signed him, Sissoko was a monster in Midfield and Garcia was loved by us, I miss him sucking his thumb even now!
:laugh: it was a nice try by Asbo, mind 🙂
Rafa is definitely a handful. But aren't most good managers?
He definitely had the clubs heart beating in him and he probably read "the prince" once too often, but the joy he gave me, the games we won, the mid week nights, the game versus chelsea in 2005 (when I was on my honeymoon!). It washes away any negatives for me really. I just consider it all a little hyper critical. Maybe because deep down critics know he could have been much better but for his flaws. Good times.
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Nice try?
I'm fucking right my mate ;D
Fabio is still here 6 years after Rafa signed him, Sissoko was a monster in Midfield and Garcia was loved by us, I miss him sucking his thumb even now!
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