Bring Back Roy Evans
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Evans should have sold Ruddock then. Houllier came in and told him to fuck off.
He did sell him albeit a little too late in some peoples opinions. The first thing he did do was sell that absolute donkey Julian Dicks that Souness bought
The tragic thing about Roy is I suspect, if he rather than Souey had replaced Kenny, the club wouldn't have declined so much. He wouldn't have made Souey's mistake of trying to change too much too soon. I think his problems would have been the same as they were later on, but he would at least have left his successor with a much more stable squad probably in a better position in the league. By the time he was promoted the damage had been done. Anyway, the reason I'd like to see Roy back is that he'd not undermine Rodgers - that point rules out so many other candidates - but he would be a great sounding board. (And he hasn't exactly been divorced from the game for ages - it wasn't so long ago he was working with the likes of Bale and Bellamy for Wales.)
I like Roy and I really get what you're saying Macca. I'm not sure Rodgers or FSG would welcome it though.
What a shit player he was.
He was
He was certainly not useless.
The issue with Evans is that he's quite similar in playing style to how Rodgers has been this season. Easy on the eye but as soft as a chocolate fireguard at the back.
That said, he does bring experience with him and a link to the old ideals, which isn't too dissimilar to what Rodgers is trying to bring back. He isn't totally outspoken nor egotistical and works well as a number two, so wouldn't come in as quite the figure of authority and worship that Kenny did, so in that sense perhaps it could work. I guess the crux of it is that anyone like this coming in would be too similar to the Director of Football role that caused so much uproar, ie the club appointing ANY staff would go against what Rodgers is trying to do.
As said though, Rodgers himself either needs to get his defensive side together this Summer, or bring someone in who can assist him.
That said, he does bring experience with him and a link to the old ideals, which isn't too dissimilar to what Rodgers is trying to bring back. He isn't totally outspoken nor egotistical and works well as a number two, so wouldn't come in as quite the figure of authority and worship that Kenny did, so in that sense perhaps it could work. I guess the crux of it is that anyone like this coming in would be too similar to the Director of Football role that caused so much uproar, ie the club appointing ANY staff would go against what Rodgers is trying to do.
As said though, Rodgers himself either needs to get his defensive side together this Summer, or bring someone in who can assist him.
I think Pascoe was a midfielder, wasn't he? Weirdly Rodgers was a defender. I suppose it doesn't matter in the sense of coaching now, but I agree he could do with some help. That's the problem, though - if he won't welcome anyone regarded as a potential threat to his authority, and you don't want someone so insipid as to be a waste of space, there's not many options. My thought about Evans is he just might become the kind of reassuring but not uncritical insider who might convince Rodgers about things like that.
Pascoe was actually a striker, though not a particularly good one.
Yeah, but besides all that, he's definitely got a bit of Neil Warnock in him!
Ah, thanks, I don't recall him at all!
Yeh if you put him next to Rushie it's not hard to work out who's on the highest branch of the clever tree.
I was amazed when Rush got a coaching job. He couldn't even describe his own skill to himself. Back when he was playing whenever anyone asked him how he'd scored he never knew. It was always 'it just fell right and I hit it and back of the net' or 'someone crossed it right place right time back of the net' or 'it bounced off thingy and i just hit and back of the net' or 'i dunno, can't remember just hit it back of the net'.
Is that really what Suarez needs?
Is that really what Suarez needs?
Even worse, is it what FSG need?
Scales was ok
Fowler was just like that.
Evans' sides being crap at the back is pure myth. We had a good defence that was also dangerous as fuck going forward. I barely missed a game during him being manager. When he took over from Suness we were in freefall. He brought in Babb and Scales. Got that cunt Ruddock off the pies. Fucked off Dicks. Didn't help we had James in goal mind. The fucking big powder puff.
Premier League:
94-95 finished 4th, 37 goals conceded. Only Man U conceded less (finishing 2nd)
95-96 finished 3rd. 34 goals conceded. Only Arsenal conceded less (finishing 5th)
96-97 finished 4th. 37 goals conceded. Only two other teams conceded less.
97-98 finished 3rd. 42 goals conceded. Only winners Arsenal and runners up Man U conceded less.
I don't remember it being like that at all Sean, as far as organisation went, it was his Achilles heal, he bought Ince who was meant to be the illusive defensive midfielder we lacked and then gave him a free for all to play with zero discipline. We were suspect to setpieces and aerial balls in, while in David James we had a keeper who flapped at everything and had me peering through my fingers everytime the opposition had a corner.
We seemed to regularly let in alot of goals too against the big boys, particularly United and infamously Newcastle. Don't forget aswell, the league was essentially a big four with only two teams usually challenging realistically, between United, Arsenal and Newcastle.
Maybe the record tells it a bit more rosy than it actually was, but I remember the first thing that Houllier brought to the club and what we'd been lacking was organisation at the back and a spine to the side. I never once felt we had that under Evans, the only time I remember thinking he was on the right track defensively was when Kvarme had an initial spell where he was infallible, before he went tits up like the rest. Evans used to drive me insane changing the backline every few games after someone dropped a clanger.
We seemed to regularly let in alot of goals too against the big boys, particularly United and infamously Newcastle. Don't forget aswell, the league was essentially a big four with only two teams usually challenging realistically, between United, Arsenal and Newcastle.
Maybe the record tells it a bit more rosy than it actually was, but I remember the first thing that Houllier brought to the club and what we'd been lacking was organisation at the back and a spine to the side. I never once felt we had that under Evans, the only time I remember thinking he was on the right track defensively was when Kvarme had an initial spell where he was infallible, before he went tits up like the rest. Evans used to drive me insane changing the backline every few games after someone dropped a clanger.
Uncle Roy was indeed a tinkerer, with team selection and with individual players' positions (putting McAteer, a decent midfielder, at right wing-back; ruining a good centre-mid in Leonhardsen by putting him wide, where he was hopelessly lost; starting Paddy Berger on the right FFS). He was an excellent coach and clearly knew the game, but running the show was too much for him, on and off the field.
Haha, I love him but Rushie never struck me as a cerebral exponent of the game, nor an impressive communicator. He was largely rubbish when trying his hand at management too, so I'm utterly at a loss as to how he's gotten hold of FSG's ear.
I enjoyed most of our games when Evans was in charge. I'm not sure I can say the same thing for extended periods since.
I don't recall us being that poor at the back, I remember us playing good build-up football, maybe overplaying at times but so what?
Babb used to get a bit of stick at the time but most of the others mentioned as crap here never did. I thought we were a good team, maybe a bit light in midfield but not that deficient elsewhere.
I don't recall us being that poor at the back, I remember us playing good build-up football, maybe overplaying at times but so what?
Babb used to get a bit of stick at the time but most of the others mentioned as crap here never did. I thought we were a good team, maybe a bit light in midfield but not that deficient elsewhere.
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