Andy Carroll In Danger Yo !
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If he scored then fair enough, but i can't remember a thing about it. Credit to him, a europa league semi final is something to write home about.
He still didn't have the fight or desire to play for us though (even though i still hope he does now)
Rewriting...right.
You said him having a purple patch is more than Carroll has done, which is wrong.
The only purple patch big Andy Carroll has is on his arse from warming the bench most of the season.
I don't understand why you take everything to the extreme. It would have been smarter for Rodgers to keep speculation to a minimum but instead his vague comments have been interpreted in all manner of ways, which the player will no doubt see and will affect his mind
That's a completely acceptable viewpoint to take, and yet, according to you, that means Rodgers will only been given 6 weeks to turn the club around?
You sound like a WUM at times.
I think the point was that Rodgers has taken it in the neck already. It's clear we don't want Carroll and I don't think that is overspeculating, we've nipped speculation in the bud for a couple of players so far yet seemed to have gone out of our way to generate speculation surrounding Carroll. The only criticism that can rightly be made is whether it's the correct decision to sell/loan Carroll, generating speculation for a player you want rid of is part and parcel of the game, we could have said the usual bullshit about wanting to keep him while secretly trying to get rid, but what would that achieve? At least this way we might actually start a bidding war. It's not a pretty way of doing things and it might be a bit disrespectful to the player, but there's times when he himself hasn't exactly gone all out for the club either, it's six of one, half a dozen of the other on that score. Rodgers has taken flack over this, probably not to extreme that Sunny says, but I can see his point, people nit pick over everything and are always looking for a rope to hang someone with, this decision either way will probably be one that will hang over Rodgers all season and be used as a stick to beat him with. We've seen it all before with every other player, manager, people aren't happy unless they've got something to fight against and something to thrown at someone. It IS inevitable and there are retards ready and waiting to jump on anything negative.
Hahaha. A WUM ? I don't think so. What I'm saying is that even though no-one has the slightest clue of what of whats going on in the background, what conversations Rodgers is having with his players, how we will line up next season and what players we will actually sign people are already casting aspersions on the mans management techniques. This leads me to believe that, although the majority of people agreed that the new manager will need time to turn things round, that mantra is already dissipating and we'll get the usual kee jerk hysterics if things don't start going right from day one of the season. Will Rodgers be yet another manager who is allowed a single season to turn things around ? As for Andy Carroll - again the majority of people were agreed that it was an abysmal signing and he didn't fit into our style of play - that viewpoint existed for about 18 months. Yet, after a few decent performances the tail end of last season and showing very little promise or even any kind of work ethic on the pitch for the previous 18 months (seems to have been forgotten) we're now saying Carroll is being treated shabbily by the club. If you find those kind of viewpoints acceptable that's fine but I find it's exactly those kind of viewpoints that are jumping from one extreme to the other and it's completely reactionary. I'm entitled to my view point as much as the next man and I don't see in the slightest where that becomes "wind-up". In fact the only wind-up here appears to be you trying to call me out as a WUM. As I say, nice try but nah, not really. If I get on your tits, fine, but that's for you to deal with. For the record, I don't think we should loan out Carroll or sell him in fact unless we can recoup £20m on the lad, which is unlikely, and like to see him stay and truly fight for his place. As I've said though I really don't know whats going on
I think people in general are too sensitive about how players are treated. Maybe in an ideal world it'd be different, but these are highly paid pros who mostly don't think twice about shafting managers and clubs if they'll see the benefit in their wage packet. I think Rodgers has calculated that Carroll is worth less to him than the £15m or so he could have to spend and I agree. Ultimately it's just business.
End of the day, most players aren't really interested in the shirt they wear and are more interested in what they take home in their pay packet.
Well you'd hope we wouldn't have started to make these noises if we weren't already fairly confident there were interested parties out there. My hunch is he'll be sold for £15m, maybe with a few add-ons if the guy does well at his new club.
As for the criticism of Rodgers - does anyone really doubt there'll be all kinds of moaning if we start the season badly?
It's just a weird double standard that seems to be being applied as far as Henderson / Carroll goes. All the excuses for Henderson being shit can equally be given to Carroll, who improved and has managed to look the part internationally.
If Rodgers doesn't want him then that's up to him, but he should choose his words more carefully.
If Rodgers doesn't want him then that's up to him, but he should choose his words more carefully.
I don't know whether to laugh, cry, shoot myself in the face or wank on a piece of toast and eat it.
I think Rodger's best chance of success at the club is to say as little as possible. It will take a while for him to assert himself football wise and I think most will give him at least a season to see what he can do. Woy ended up becoming hated as opposed to simply frowned upon because of all the bullshit he was coming out with when we got beat. Dalglish ended up promising more than he could deliver. The new guy could learn from this.
When did henderson start to look good? Must have missed that brief 5 mins because so far he's been very ordinary and offered nothing at all.
He's Woland. He's talking about Carroll.
You could start a poll and we'll choose for you?
Henderson has taken stick for being poor, Carroll has taken stick for being poor and too often, not arsed. There's a difference. It's not a double standard, it's why Lucas got so much perseverance, because he didn't let his head drop and despite the stick, he looked like he gave a fuck. Henderson has played within himself, that's a different crime to not looking after yourself, getting a gob on and looking half arsed.
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