I know and I agree.
We're not good enough
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I know and I agree.
I said they deserve some acknowledgement for recent activity, we HAVE spent well and we HAVE been backed well.
So let me get this straight, we can't do that because we have to wait and see the outcome of a player who's spat his dummy out, something that's merely a possibility at present? "We can't say they've done well until they deal with this and show what they do with the money". Really? What then? "We can't say they've done well until replacement player X has proven himself over X amount of time"? Are people really that desperate to dumb down what we're trying to do? Every half-cocked piece of bad press is taken as gospel, but fuck me, give them a bit of credit for what they've done and what they're trying to do and it's premature bollocks that we've all heard before.
Like I said, read the post, it's not premature, it's an acknowledgement of where we're at and what we're trying to do, I didn't say we've made it, that's just a vibe you've taken from the post, like I said in my original reply, it wasn't intended as an "everything is brilliant" type of post, I said as much in my replies where I gave a few points of caution.
Sturridge and Coutinho were good buys, Borini could yet prove so, we've spent probably beyond most peoples expectations, and I like the "idea". I think that's fair enough, I haven't painted the fucking town red.,
I think its hard to say as of yet whether we are doing better in the market or not. Is being linked with a number of younger foreign players a good thing? Well yes in comparison with the Dalglish transfer debacle. Can we be optimistic? Why not, its been over twenty years already so fuck it.
There are a few troubling elephants in the room however, firstly we are pretty shit to start with and stopping outside the top four is corrosive on every level. Secondly the sheer number of players we are being linked with makes me very very suspicious about our intentions re Suarez. I think we should let Suarez know that he isn't going anywhere until we have securely re-attached the CL oxygen mask and for such a supposed hard nut he can stay and face the music for his own actions.
In short i wont be congratulating anyone at the club regardless of transfer dealings until we've got back up there.
There are a few troubling elephants in the room however, firstly we are pretty shit to start with and stopping outside the top four is corrosive on every level. Secondly the sheer number of players we are being linked with makes me very very suspicious about our intentions re Suarez. I think we should let Suarez know that he isn't going anywhere until we have securely re-attached the CL oxygen mask and for such a supposed hard nut he can stay and face the music for his own actions.
In short i wont be congratulating anyone at the club regardless of transfer dealings until we've got back up there.
All I know is that I'm no longer wondering if there's something I'm missing signing all that dross of the Summer of 2011. This new batch may be a mediocre bunch, but the price-tag so far is lower, so thanks BR. From what I can see when there's been large overhauls before, we've brought in 7-8 players and 3 have been good signings. So it feels like a 50% success thing.
Maths not your strong point?
@StevePaulMartin: Lots of people at the club saying Rodgers' credibility has increased further this week due to his no nonsense approach to transfers. #lfc
@StevePaulMartin: Rodgers is alleged to have said that LFC's previous negotiating methods were pathetic. #LFC
@StevePaulMartin: @Jay82_LFC in every sense, mate. Particularly our no longer going back on our word!
@StevePaulMartin: @Jay82_LFC interesting to hear that the Allen fee was out of his control but that's all been changed now.
@StevePaulMartin: @Jay82_LFC he didn't want him immediately if it meant paying that. Others believed we needed him sooner.
@StevePaulMartin: Rodgers is alleged to have said that LFC's previous negotiating methods were pathetic. #LFC
@StevePaulMartin: @Jay82_LFC in every sense, mate. Particularly our no longer going back on our word!
@StevePaulMartin: @Jay82_LFC interesting to hear that the Allen fee was out of his control but that's all been changed now.
@StevePaulMartin: @Jay82_LFC he didn't want him immediately if it meant paying that. Others believed we needed him sooner.
Lol, hard to argue with that.
Well apart from the fact that a) Rodgers knows nothing about how things worked before, b) Ian Ayre has been doing all the negotiations
It's great news from whoever this total nobody on twitter is.
We all know we've stopped ' backing the manager' as if they know everything - that's the big change
It's great news from whoever this total nobody on twitter is.
We all know we've stopped ' backing the manager' as if they know everything - that's the big change
I agree with the opening post. The post season period is the ideal time to build optimism to the point of being blind. We then have the following nine months to be sceptical and pessimistic, it balances out.
We have a coherent plan and recruit to a system, something we haven't done since the Paisley days. The January window was the turning point for me. I thought Coutinho was a lightweight Brazilian failure and Sturridge was just a failure. If they carry out subsequent signings like that and I like to believe they will, thats how you make up ground on the so called bigger clubs relatively cheaply. There were signs that how the team was at the end of the season closed some of the gap on the teams above us.
Right now I feel we will spring out of the traps and be a serious contender next season. Personally its the most exciting summer for years.
We have a coherent plan and recruit to a system, something we haven't done since the Paisley days. The January window was the turning point for me. I thought Coutinho was a lightweight Brazilian failure and Sturridge was just a failure. If they carry out subsequent signings like that and I like to believe they will, thats how you make up ground on the so called bigger clubs relatively cheaply. There were signs that how the team was at the end of the season closed some of the gap on the teams above us.
Right now I feel we will spring out of the traps and be a serious contender next season. Personally its the most exciting summer for years.
How could he not know how things were done before? Has no one told him we spunked £55m on Carroll and Downing?
Haha, Rossofailure.
Big money investment for average players, high wages for free transfers and average players.
Yeah, no one knows how we operated before.
Twitter is full of idiots but if you know who to follow there is some good and interesting info out there.
Big money investment for average players, high wages for free transfers and average players.
Yeah, no one knows how we operated before.
Twitter is full of idiots but if you know who to follow there is some good and interesting info out there.
None of that is to do with negotiation which is what your post specifically referred to. It's strategy.
None of that is new, interesting or anything out of the ordinary - Some of us have been saying it for fucking years at this point. And for Rodgers to be taking the piss out of our old strategy is quite funny considering his first two signings were products of a largely similar strategy.
I swear to god I'm going to set up a fucking twitter account. And direct every single tweet to you so you'll be ahead of the game in future.
Remember when people were telling you Downing was a stupid idea ? And you thought it was agood one - that's he strategy that Rodgers is allegedly taking the piss out of. One you supported at the time.
Maybe one day you'll learn how to think for yourself, instead of championing everything the club tries to do and decrying any journalist who says something you don't like as being unreliable.
Sorry but I dont know who that is??
Mark do you think this success at attracting what seems like decent talent (we'll see) is down to this
"I came to the club because of the manager," explained Alberto. "I came here because of the style of football he plays. " Luis who just signed. Then, rather than being seen as the club not in the CL we are seen as the attractive playing club for spainiards and other fans of the pressing game.
"I came to the club because of the manager," explained Alberto. "I came here because of the style of football he plays. " Luis who just signed. Then, rather than being seen as the club not in the CL we are seen as the attractive playing club for spainiards and other fans of the pressing game.
To be fair, I think things have changed since those deals. Whether that's anything to do with Rodgers or not, no one knows, especially not these 400 hundred "in the know" Liverpool fans on twitter.
Definitely. I guess word gets around too with Mourinho thinking highly of him after working with him, and as you say, the intent is obvious, I guess it's seen by some as an exciting project. I think the connections Rafa set up in terms of us having a strong Spanish link is also obviously a factor.
Why dont you just admit that you're an idiot, instead of writing all this? It would be much easier.
Tbh, I couldnt really care. Its the same old arguments with Downing from 2 years ago.
How's the we should sell Suarez because he doesnt score any goals strategy working for you?
You're obsessed with being right and that you've got knowledge about the game that no one else has and I wouldnt be surprised if you've changed Footballs Wiki to invented by Ross.
Why bother commenting on the Twitter stuff if you dont like it? Just post somewhere else.
It might surprise you but you dont half know what you're talking about on here. But lets just leave it at that.
I'd like to discuss other things on here then the same boring stuff with you.
How's the we should sell Suarez because he doesnt score any goals strategy working for you?
You're obsessed with being right and that you've got knowledge about the game that no one else has and I wouldnt be surprised if you've changed Footballs Wiki to invented by Ross.
Why bother commenting on the Twitter stuff if you dont like it? Just post somewhere else.
It might surprise you but you dont half know what you're talking about on here. But lets just leave it at that.
I'd like to discuss other things on here then the same boring stuff with you.
I'm not taking sides but that analogy is fantastic
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