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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48605.msg1478792#msg1478792 date=1328625147]
I think it was one of those incidents that looks misleading in slo-mo. His timing was right if the ball had fallen to him instead of being headed by Parker. You could certainly say it was a rash decision to go for it like that, but I don't think in real time it looked anything other than clumsy, and his reaction certainly suggested that.
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To be honest I think this is very much spot on. That is however IMO not saying he wasn't lucky not to get sent off. I think he was indeed.

You simply can't risk the health of your opponents with plays like that. The same logic appears when players are seeing straight red for flying in studs high even if they don't get any contact. And Suarez made contact alright, not anywhere near the ball.

Skrtel on two occasions also looked a tad too fired up. Played another strong game but his yellow was blatant (and far more evident than Spearing's straight red at Fulham) and he almost kicked Friedel in the head as well.
 
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48605.msg1478792#msg1478792 date=1328625147]
I think it was one of those incidents that looks misleading in slo-mo. His timing was right if the ball had fallen to him instead of being headed by Parker. You could certainly say it was a rash decision to go for it like that, but I don't think in real time it looked anything other than clumsy, and his reaction certainly suggested that.
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To be honest I think this is very much spot on. That is however IMO not saying he wasn't lucky not to get sent off. I think he was indeed.

You simply can't risk the health of your opponents with plays like that. The same logic appears when players are seeing straight red for flying in studs high even if they don't get any contact. And Suarez made contact alright, not anywhere near the ball.

Skrtel on two occasions also looked a tad too fired up. Played another strong game but his yellow was blatant (and far more evident than Spearing's straight red at Fulham) and he almost kicked Friedel in the head as well.
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There was a list of seven things sent out to all referees with regards things to look out for in tackles. I can't remember them all, but it's all about intent, speed of the tackle, chances of causing injury and things like that. I'm fairly sure contact doesn't come into it.

Suarez didn't look to me like he intended it, nor was it really that dangerous, it wasn't a high foot(would need to be close to some ones head for that), so I'm not sure why someone would think it should be a sending off. Unless they thought it was intentional.
 
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48605.msg1478792#msg1478792 date=1328625147]
I think it was one of those incidents that looks misleading in slo-mo. His timing was right if the ball had fallen to him instead of being headed by Parker. You could certainly say it was a rash decision to go for it like that, but I don't think in real time it looked anything other than clumsy, and his reaction certainly suggested that.
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To be honest I think this is very much spot on. That is however IMO not saying he wasn't lucky not to get sent off. I think he was indeed.

You simply can't risk the health of your opponents with plays like that. The same logic appears when players are seeing straight red for flying in studs high even if they don't get any contact. And Suarez made contact alright, not anywhere near the ball.

Skrtel on two occasions also looked a tad too fired up. Played another strong game but his yellow was blatant (and far more evident than Spearing's straight red at Fulham) and he almost kicked Friedel in the head as well.
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There was a list of seven things sent out to all referees with regards things to look out for in tackles. I can't remember them all, but it's all about intent, speed of the tackle, chances of causing injury and things like that. I'm fairly sure contact doesn't come into it.

Suarez didn't look to me like he intended it, nor was it really that dangerous, it wasn't a high foot(would need to be close to some ones head for that), so I'm not sure why someone would think it should be a sending off. Unless they thought it was intentional.
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Whether you are just extremely clumsy, too fired up or indeed looking to hurt your opponent, when you kick someone straight in their stomach with the ball nowhere to be seen you'll have to deem yourself lucky to stay on the pitch. Imo.
 
[quote author=Modo link=topic=48605.msg1478839#msg1478839 date=1328632223]
Have hated Parker since he fucked up Bullards knee.
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i've hated him since he started looking like a 1920's pansy
 
Credit where it's due, Kevin Bond didn't raise to the bait afterwards and said he didn't think it deserved more than a yellow.
 
I thought it looked pretty dubious at full speed, and then on the replay it looked even more damning.

Just after the nudge and before it comes down he has a little look at Parker before he boots him in the midriff.

If he'd been sent off I don't think there would have been a huge amount he could have complained about, it looks pretty bad IMO
 
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=48605.msg1478844#msg1478844 date=1328632647]
Credit where it's due, Kevin Bond didn't raise to the bait afterwards and said he didn't think it deserved more than a yellow.
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Very fair interview from Bond I thought
 
I thought it was very much (in intent) like Adebayor's challenge on Bellamy in the first half - with the same aghast reaction from the perpetrator. He was intent on going for the ball and got it wrong. Simples.
 
It was nothing. The yellow card was fair as it was dangerous play, but intent? Fuck off.
 
Watch the direction of his eyes .... he never took them off the ball. he was obviously going for the ball and in fact he kicked Parker at waist height, not even dangerous play. Had it not been in the box and Parker dropping like a dead fly (every reason to with that kick of course) then I doubt even a FK would have been given.


However the Evra episode and the abuse he will now receive at every ground around the country, will see him depart for shores where what he said is not considered racist, sooner rather than later.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=48605.msg1478882#msg1478882 date=1328638377]
He would have missed that ball by a mile with that swing
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I thought so too ! However he seemed totally intent on the ball and just pushed Parker away to make room.
 
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=48605.msg1478881#msg1478881 date=1328638270]
Watch the direction of his eyes .... he never took them off the ball. he was obviously going for the ball and in fact he kicked Parker at waist height, not even dangerous play. Had it not been in the box and Parker dropping like a dead fly (every reason to with that kick of course) then I doubt even a FK would have been given.


However the Evra episode and the abuse he will now receive at every ground around the country, will see him depart for shores where what he said is not considered racist, sooner rather than later.
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Not even a freekick?

Hahaha
 
I wish I was married to half of you.

'Can you help me get this showerhead out of my arsehole? I slipped again'.
 
It amazes me so many of you think he didn't mean it.

What did you all think he was doing with his hand on his eye socket? Had an attack of temporary blindness & was trying to see what he looked like?
 
ha ha ha ha

This is a funny thread.

Suarez could well end up missing a lot of games through suspension lads. Part of it due to his reputation but a larger part of it because he likes to eye gouge, bite, kick, elbow and stick his studs into opponents.
 
He'd been on the pitch for a few minutes after serving a 8 match ban, so taking this into account i highly doubt he meant to kick him in the gut and risk a red card.

Accidents happen.
 
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=48605.msg1478942#msg1478942 date=1328643537]
He'd been on the pitch for a few minutes after serving a 8 match ban, so taking this into account i highly doubt he meant to kick him in the gut.

Accidents happen.
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Add another to the deluded bellend list. They'll probably let it slide though due to your poor record last year as a premier league manager.
 
Maybe SCM should come with a warning now, "If your views don't match the Administrators, we will call you deluded bellends"
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=48605.msg1478954#msg1478954 date=1328643827]
*fingers in ears*


LALALALALALALALACCIDENTLALALALALALA
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I wanted to write much much worse ... so I thought I was pretty good!
 
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=48605.msg1478951#msg1478951 date=1328643784]
*shrugs*

It's only oncy i doubt he means it.
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Its not Oncy its LeTall, but scrolling back I see Oncy did too, but at least he hates Suarez because he thinks he 'dives all over the place', he has the same thoughts as Fergie!
 
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[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=48605.msg1478951#msg1478951 date=1328643784]
*shrugs*

It's only oncy i doubt he means it.
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Its not Oncy its LeTall, but scrolling back I see Oncy did too, but at least he hates Suarez because he thinks he 'dives all over the place', he has the same thoughts as Fergie!
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Wait ... You think I was being serious? LeTallecAryanNationWiz?
 
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