Can I also just say how surprised I am that no-one's put forward 'Ming the Mercenary' yet
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Shame that he has left as he's a decent player who can get goals. I agree with SR though, it looks like we had to make a couple of sales to make up for the spending and the paying off of the deadwood, and there was not really many others left who could fetch much of a fee.
Time will tell how much we will miss him I suppose.
Time will tell how much we will miss him I suppose.
I'm amazed so many people are confused by the transfer request.
If anyone truly believes that the club got a transfer request at half 10, put it on the website & did a deal with chelsea within half an hour they are complete retards.
The exact same thing happened with Torres. We got a deal we felt we couldn't turn down as it was more than the player was worth/he wasn't happy, was upsetting te team spirit, & demanded a transfer request so it sass clear to the fans the player had engineered the move. The timing of the information about the request is simply to make the player look like the instigator, which is invariably true in most cases but is highlighted more when the transfer request is handed in.
Had kenny wanted to keep raul then he'd still be here, but he feels (rightly IMO) that we should only have players here that want to be here. How do you think modric will feel at spurs? The team spirit won't exactly be great. At melwood I bet kenny will have a few things to say about morale to the players to engender some greater bond.
If anyone truly believes that the club got a transfer request at half 10, put it on the website & did a deal with chelsea within half an hour they are complete retards.
The exact same thing happened with Torres. We got a deal we felt we couldn't turn down as it was more than the player was worth/he wasn't happy, was upsetting te team spirit, & demanded a transfer request so it sass clear to the fans the player had engineered the move. The timing of the information about the request is simply to make the player look like the instigator, which is invariably true in most cases but is highlighted more when the transfer request is handed in.
Had kenny wanted to keep raul then he'd still be here, but he feels (rightly IMO) that we should only have players here that want to be here. How do you think modric will feel at spurs? The team spirit won't exactly be great. At melwood I bet kenny will have a few things to say about morale to the players to engender some greater bond.
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Yep I'm still raging. We've sold a quality player that everyone likes to a rival without making a worthwhile financial gain. What is it the equivalent of? Malouda going to united or to us or something?
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Malouda has been critical to Chelsea winning the last few years - he's one of the best talents. Meirless, whom I liked, was going to struggle to get games it seems (be it because Kenny didn't like him, he didn't want to play, the $ issue, or whatever). It doesn't matter how WE rate him, he's a squad player in Kenny's eyes ...
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Perhaps but I wouldn't sell him to a rival without being paid handsomely for it. Just hope he crashes and burns at Chelsea as i'd hate to watch him succeed in blue.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=46664.msg1392539#msg1392539 date=1314859257]
Yep I'm still raging. We've sold a quality player that everyone likes to a rival without making a worthwhile financial gain. What is it the equivalent of? Malouda going to united or to us or something?
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Malouda has been critical to Chelsea winning the last few years - he's one of the best talents. Meirless, whom I liked, was going to struggle to get games it seems (be it because Kenny didn't like him, he didn't want to play, the $ issue, or whatever). It doesn't matter how WE rate him, he's a squad player in Kenny's eyes ...
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Perhaps but I wouldn't sell him to a rival without being paid handsomely for it. Just hope he crashes and burns at Chelsea as i'd hate to watch him succeed in blue.
[quote author=singlerider link=topic=46664.msg1392536#msg1392536 date=1314857731]
I think Ming was a big element in some of the delightful football we played last year, and although he may not have had a defined position as such, nevertheless it's not to say he didn't have a role. I'm surprised Ryan didn't rate him, being as it was him that put forward the "fuck formations and defined positions, just have good creative players with good movement" theory.
Ming was, is, a good creative player with good movement. For all these people saying Kenny didn't fancy him I think this was based more on the off the pitch stuff than on - he's repeatedly made the point that if you don't wanna be here then fuck off, and the Raul rumours have been around a while.
In that sense, yes - it's good to get rid, you should want to play for the shirt.
However, if these contract rumours are true, and Raul's on 30K p/w, then we've been dicks to argue the toss over that - fuck whether it was a verbal contract or whatever, he was worth more money than that and that's all that matters. If it really was only 30K p/w we could have more than doubled it and he'd still only be getting paid what Jova was. Maybe it's the new regime saying "we don't give big contracts to old guys" but he's not that old and he's still got some life in him yet.
It's a bad move by us IMO and I'm not happy, but it is what it is
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I wouldn't get too wound up over how much he was getting paid, he signed a contract 12 months ago and was presumably happy enough with it then.
I said before he went I would not want him to go, and still stand by that.
It seems to me quite significant that he was forced to put in a signed transfer request, so we were not that keen on letting him go.
I would rather he stayed than went, but it's not the end of the world.
I still don't think we should be doing business with Chelsea under any circumstances again though, it sends out the wrong messages.
regards
regards
I think Ming was a big element in some of the delightful football we played last year, and although he may not have had a defined position as such, nevertheless it's not to say he didn't have a role. I'm surprised Ryan didn't rate him, being as it was him that put forward the "fuck formations and defined positions, just have good creative players with good movement" theory.
Ming was, is, a good creative player with good movement. For all these people saying Kenny didn't fancy him I think this was based more on the off the pitch stuff than on - he's repeatedly made the point that if you don't wanna be here then fuck off, and the Raul rumours have been around a while.
In that sense, yes - it's good to get rid, you should want to play for the shirt.
However, if these contract rumours are true, and Raul's on 30K p/w, then we've been dicks to argue the toss over that - fuck whether it was a verbal contract or whatever, he was worth more money than that and that's all that matters. If it really was only 30K p/w we could have more than doubled it and he'd still only be getting paid what Jova was. Maybe it's the new regime saying "we don't give big contracts to old guys" but he's not that old and he's still got some life in him yet.
It's a bad move by us IMO and I'm not happy, but it is what it is
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I wouldn't get too wound up over how much he was getting paid, he signed a contract 12 months ago and was presumably happy enough with it then.
I said before he went I would not want him to go, and still stand by that.
It seems to me quite significant that he was forced to put in a signed transfer request, so we were not that keen on letting him go.
I would rather he stayed than went, but it's not the end of the world.
I still don't think we should be doing business with Chelsea under any circumstances again though, it sends out the wrong messages.
regards
regards
A bit of a fucker this transfer seeing as it leaves our midfield looking a little short in numbers (quality wise) imo. I guess a lot will depend on 1. how many games we can get out of Stevie 2. How much Jonjo can come develop this season.
Overall we've done well though, seeing as our back 5/Up front both looks pretty much sorted regradless of what injuries we might pick up.
Kenny is taking a gamble but he obviously thinks we've got enough options in midfield.
Overall we've done well though, seeing as our back 5/Up front both looks pretty much sorted regradless of what injuries we might pick up.
Kenny is taking a gamble but he obviously thinks we've got enough options in midfield.
4-4-2 (if gerrard continues to be injured)
henderson---adam---lucas----downing
--------carroll---suarez
4-3-3 (if gerrard continues to be injured)
henderson---lucas---adam
kuyt----suarez----downing
so ming is down the pecking order even with no gerrard the problem is if adam has an injury then you are bringing in the likes of jonjo and he is ready for that?
henderson---adam---lucas----downing
--------carroll---suarez
4-3-3 (if gerrard continues to be injured)
henderson---lucas---adam
kuyt----suarez----downing
so ming is down the pecking order even with no gerrard the problem is if adam has an injury then you are bringing in the likes of jonjo and he is ready for that?
Look, it's fucking acedemic how good a player he is. Once you don't want to be at LFC you can fuck off.
That is the same for anyone. Carra, stevie, Suarez, anyone at all.
That is the same for anyone. Carra, stevie, Suarez, anyone at all.
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[quote author=singlerider link=topic=46664.msg1392536#msg1392536 date=1314857731]
I think Ming was a big element in some of the delightful football we played last year, and although he may not have had a defined position as such, nevertheless it's not to say he didn't have a role. I'm surprised Ryan didn't rate him, being as it was him that put forward the "fuck formations and defined positions, just have good creative players with good movement" theory.
Ming was, is, a good creative player with good movement. For all these people saying Kenny didn't fancy him I think this was based more on the off the pitch stuff than on - he's repeatedly made the point that if you don't wanna be here then fuck off, and the Raul rumours have been around a while.
In that sense, yes - it's good to get rid, you should want to play for the shirt.
However, if these contract rumours are true, and Raul's on 30K p/w, then we've been dicks to argue the toss over that - fuck whether it was a verbal contract or whatever, he was worth more money than that and that's all that matters. If it really was only 30K p/w we could have more than doubled it and he'd still only be getting paid what Jova was. Maybe it's the new regime saying "we don't give big contracts to old guys" but he's not that old and he's still got some life in him yet.
It's a bad move by us IMO and I'm not happy, but it is what it is
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I wouldn't get too wound up over how much he was getting paid, he signed a contract 12 months ago and was presumably happy enough with it then.
I said before he went I would not want him to go, and still stand by that.
It seems to me quite significant that he was forced to put in a signed transfer request, so we were not that keen on letting him go.
I would rather he stayed than went, but it's not the end of the world.
I still don't think we should be doing business with Chelsea under any circumstances again though, it sends out the wrong messages.
regards
regards
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3 players sold to chelsea in 3 transfer windows, without meaning to tempt fate hopefully there isn't a fourth
[quote author=singlerider link=topic=46664.msg1392536#msg1392536 date=1314857731]
I think Ming was a big element in some of the delightful football we played last year, and although he may not have had a defined position as such, nevertheless it's not to say he didn't have a role. I'm surprised Ryan didn't rate him, being as it was him that put forward the "fuck formations and defined positions, just have good creative players with good movement" theory.
Ming was, is, a good creative player with good movement. For all these people saying Kenny didn't fancy him I think this was based more on the off the pitch stuff than on - he's repeatedly made the point that if you don't wanna be here then fuck off, and the Raul rumours have been around a while.
In that sense, yes - it's good to get rid, you should want to play for the shirt.
However, if these contract rumours are true, and Raul's on 30K p/w, then we've been dicks to argue the toss over that - fuck whether it was a verbal contract or whatever, he was worth more money than that and that's all that matters. If it really was only 30K p/w we could have more than doubled it and he'd still only be getting paid what Jova was. Maybe it's the new regime saying "we don't give big contracts to old guys" but he's not that old and he's still got some life in him yet.
It's a bad move by us IMO and I'm not happy, but it is what it is
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I wouldn't get too wound up over how much he was getting paid, he signed a contract 12 months ago and was presumably happy enough with it then.
I said before he went I would not want him to go, and still stand by that.
It seems to me quite significant that he was forced to put in a signed transfer request, so we were not that keen on letting him go.
I would rather he stayed than went, but it's not the end of the world.
I still don't think we should be doing business with Chelsea under any circumstances again though, it sends out the wrong messages.
regards
regards
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3 players sold to chelsea in 3 transfer windows, without meaning to tempt fate hopefully there isn't a fourth
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Look, it's fucking acedemic how good a player he is. Once you don't want to be at LFC you can fuck off.
That is the same for anyone. Carra, stevie, Suarez, anyone at all.
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Did you hear any insider info about the transfer Jon? I read Kenny didn't fancy him etc but is there anything concrete? Also have we now taken it for granted that the finger gesture was in fact to the bench. That's not on if so.
Look, it's fucking acedemic how good a player he is. Once you don't want to be at LFC you can fuck off.
That is the same for anyone. Carra, stevie, Suarez, anyone at all.
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Did you hear any insider info about the transfer Jon? I read Kenny didn't fancy him etc but is there anything concrete? Also have we now taken it for granted that the finger gesture was in fact to the bench. That's not on if so.
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=46664.msg1392558#msg1392558 date=1314861954]
Look, it's fucking acedemic how good a player he is. Once you don't want to be at LFC you can fuck off.
That is the same for anyone. Carra, stevie, Suarez, anyone at all.
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Yeah I agree , it's just a pity some decent players have decided this in the last few seasons.
Look, it's fucking acedemic how good a player he is. Once you don't want to be at LFC you can fuck off.
That is the same for anyone. Carra, stevie, Suarez, anyone at all.
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Yeah I agree , it's just a pity some decent players have decided this in the last few seasons.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=46664.msg1392558#msg1392558 date=1314861954]
Look, it's fucking acedemic how good a player he is. Once you don't want to be at LFC you can fuck off.
That is the same for anyone. Carra, stevie, Suarez, anyone at all.
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I agree on that. However it is a little twosided. LFC need to be a club were good players want to be, more than a name with a strong history! To much shit has happened the last few years. Now it is time to look forward, and create a good atmosphere among the players who wants to be here. That kind of atmosphere that builds an unbeatable unit. Which of course means KK to stay on for a long term future so we dont experience a new manager with new ideas and new players shifting in a couple of years.
Look, it's fucking acedemic how good a player he is. Once you don't want to be at LFC you can fuck off.
That is the same for anyone. Carra, stevie, Suarez, anyone at all.
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I agree on that. However it is a little twosided. LFC need to be a club were good players want to be, more than a name with a strong history! To much shit has happened the last few years. Now it is time to look forward, and create a good atmosphere among the players who wants to be here. That kind of atmosphere that builds an unbeatable unit. Which of course means KK to stay on for a long term future so we dont experience a new manager with new ideas and new players shifting in a couple of years.
truth is, 30k a week for a player of mings quality is derisory but 'HE' signed the contract.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=46664.msg1392558#msg1392558 date=1314861954]
Look, it's fucking acedemic how good a player he is. Once you don't want to be at LFC you can fuck off.
That is the same for anyone. Carra, stevie, Suarez, anyone at all.
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That's fine, Jon..but it's also fair to consider why a player doesnt want to be at LFC.
Look, it's fucking acedemic how good a player he is. Once you don't want to be at LFC you can fuck off.
That is the same for anyone. Carra, stevie, Suarez, anyone at all.
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That's fine, Jon..but it's also fair to consider why a player doesnt want to be at LFC.
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Yep I'm still raging. We've sold a quality player that everyone likes to a rival without making a worthwhile financial gain. What is it the equivalent of? Malouda going to united or to us or something?
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Malouda has been critical to Chelsea winning the last few years - he's one of the best talents. Meirless, whom I liked, was going to struggle to get games it seems (be it because Kenny didn't like him, he didn't want to play, the $ issue, or whatever). It doesn't matter how WE rate him, he's a squad player in Kenny's eyes ...
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Perhaps but I wouldn't sell him to a rival without being paid handsomely for it. Just hope he crashes and burns at Chelsea as i'd hate to watch him succeed in blue.
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I have no problem with him succeeding personally - but I hope the team is as successful as it's been with Yossi & Torres ... We'll win the league before any of those 3 do.
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Yep I'm still raging. We've sold a quality player that everyone likes to a rival without making a worthwhile financial gain. What is it the equivalent of? Malouda going to united or to us or something?
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Malouda has been critical to Chelsea winning the last few years - he's one of the best talents. Meirless, whom I liked, was going to struggle to get games it seems (be it because Kenny didn't like him, he didn't want to play, the $ issue, or whatever). It doesn't matter how WE rate him, he's a squad player in Kenny's eyes ...
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Perhaps but I wouldn't sell him to a rival without being paid handsomely for it. Just hope he crashes and burns at Chelsea as i'd hate to watch him succeed in blue.
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I have no problem with him succeeding personally - but I hope the team is as successful as it's been with Yossi & Torres ... We'll win the league before any of those 3 do.
Agree with that vlad. I think we should put out a statement to that fact.
'Liverpool Football Club would like to make it clear that they will not consider any bids for players from Chelsea Football Club. This decision has been reached following their previous experiences with the club in successive transfer windows & reflects the underhand nature in which they have undertaken during the aforementioned transfers.'
'Liverpool Football Club would like to make it clear that they will not consider any bids for players from Chelsea Football Club. This decision has been reached following their previous experiences with the club in successive transfer windows & reflects the underhand nature in which they have undertaken during the aforementioned transfers.'
Not heard anything concrete at all, just whispers that he wasn't happy & kenny didn't get on with him or want him.
I always take such things with a pinch of salt though cos no matter the source theres always a danger of blueshite spreading shit against us, gerrards had about five kids with underage mums I the rumour tally is to be believed.
I always take such things with a pinch of salt though cos no matter the source theres always a danger of blueshite spreading shit against us, gerrards had about five kids with underage mums I the rumour tally is to be believed.
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=46664.msg1392572#msg1392572 date=1314862666]
Not heard anything concrete at all, just whispers that he wasn't happy & kenny didn't get on with him or want him.
I always take such things with a pinch of salt though cos no matter the source theres always a danger of blueshite spreading shit against us, gerrards had about five kids with underage mums I the rumour tally is to be believed.
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I dunno.
After getting £50M Torres I'm inclined to think we could get £80M for Bellamy in January.
Not heard anything concrete at all, just whispers that he wasn't happy & kenny didn't get on with him or want him.
I always take such things with a pinch of salt though cos no matter the source theres always a danger of blueshite spreading shit against us, gerrards had about five kids with underage mums I the rumour tally is to be believed.
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I dunno.
After getting £50M Torres I'm inclined to think we could get £80M for Bellamy in January.
I've gotten over selling to our rivals, as long as the player is over rated, won't improve them, and we have adequate replacements. Which I believe was the case the last two times we dealt with Chelsea, and likely to happen this time too, IMO.
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Chelsea have hardly ripped us off with these transfers. So far we've got £50mil for a dud and £7mil for a player who spent all season injured before being moved on.
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The fee isn't my problem. It's the tapping up.
Yossi was bought simply to get Torres there, & Torres was harassed by Chelsea daily for an entire summer & allegedly went to the cunts yacht. It's underhand, against the rules & the spirit of the game & blatant.
I find ironic that we're the only PL club to have been found guilty of tapping up in 20 years yet Stam admits in his book utd tapped him up & Chelsea advertise the fact they do it.
Chelsea have hardly ripped us off with these transfers. So far we've got £50mil for a dud and £7mil for a player who spent all season injured before being moved on.
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The fee isn't my problem. It's the tapping up.
Yossi was bought simply to get Torres there, & Torres was harassed by Chelsea daily for an entire summer & allegedly went to the cunts yacht. It's underhand, against the rules & the spirit of the game & blatant.
I find ironic that we're the only PL club to have been found guilty of tapping up in 20 years yet Stam admits in his book utd tapped him up & Chelsea advertise the fact they do it.
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He didn't want to be here, hence I didn't want him to be here.
Fuck off.
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At last. I've found the post I agree with!!!
He didn't want to be here, hence I didn't want him to be here.
Fuck off.
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At last. I've found the post I agree with!!!
I'm over this cunt already. We have enough quality to do just fine until the January window unless we have really bad luck with injuries.
In January we do have to buy a centre mid though. I was hoping for one in this window already regardless of whether Ming stayed or not.
In January we do have to buy a centre mid though. I was hoping for one in this window already regardless of whether Ming stayed or not.
Maybe i'd be a little more pissed off if the players they'd signed from us had gone on to tear things up with them Jon + I bet we've done similar in some shape or form this summer mate (as have every other club).
I can't help but think that if Kenny had wanted to keep him then maybe we'd have at least offered him an improved contract.
I can't help but think that if Kenny had wanted to keep him then maybe we'd have at least offered him an improved contract.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46664.msg1392557#msg1392557 date=1314861895]
4-4-2 (if gerrard continues to be injured)
henderson---adam---lucas----downing
--------carroll---suarez
4-3-3 (if gerrard continues to be injured)
henderson---lucas---adam
kuyt----suarez----downing
so ming is down the pecking order even with no gerrard the problem is if adam has an injury then you are bringing in the likes of jonjo and he is ready for that?
[/quote]The problem is, that that is a really average and ininspiring midfield now.
This time last year Henderson was having his first season at up and down Sunderland, Adam was huffing and puffing around at relegated Blackpool and Lucas was having the arse ripped out of him by the fans.
Only Downing inspires any confidence or dynamism in that first four. Its a mid to lower midtable midfield.
Meanwhile (and im not suggesting they had this impact here) Joe Cole is at French Champions Lille, Alberto Aquilani is at Italian champions Ac Milan, Raul Meireles has gone to a champions league club from our league, even before that Mascherano is at Spanish champions Barcelona, Alonso is at Madrid......we HAVE to stop fucking selling our better players. We are just a selling club.
Im now REALLY REALLY glad we kept Maxi and i hope he gets a bunch of game time this year.
And if Gerrard doesnt get fit and stay fit soon then we will be very lucky to have a half decent season.
I really cant believe we swapped Aquilani, Raul and Cole for Adam, Henderson and Downing.........at a cost of about 30m quid.
4-4-2 (if gerrard continues to be injured)
henderson---adam---lucas----downing
--------carroll---suarez
4-3-3 (if gerrard continues to be injured)
henderson---lucas---adam
kuyt----suarez----downing
so ming is down the pecking order even with no gerrard the problem is if adam has an injury then you are bringing in the likes of jonjo and he is ready for that?
[/quote]The problem is, that that is a really average and ininspiring midfield now.
This time last year Henderson was having his first season at up and down Sunderland, Adam was huffing and puffing around at relegated Blackpool and Lucas was having the arse ripped out of him by the fans.
Only Downing inspires any confidence or dynamism in that first four. Its a mid to lower midtable midfield.
Meanwhile (and im not suggesting they had this impact here) Joe Cole is at French Champions Lille, Alberto Aquilani is at Italian champions Ac Milan, Raul Meireles has gone to a champions league club from our league, even before that Mascherano is at Spanish champions Barcelona, Alonso is at Madrid......we HAVE to stop fucking selling our better players. We are just a selling club.
Im now REALLY REALLY glad we kept Maxi and i hope he gets a bunch of game time this year.
And if Gerrard doesnt get fit and stay fit soon then we will be very lucky to have a half decent season.
I really cant believe we swapped Aquilani, Raul and Cole for Adam, Henderson and Downing.........at a cost of about 30m quid.
I liked Miereles, always did from day one when everyone was fucking him for wimping out of tackles, I did not want him to go, but I think he is starting to be overly bigged-up now he is gone.
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To me it feels a bit like a game where you are winning 4 0 and then concede two late goals. It takes a bit of the gloss of the win, but fuck it we won and got the three points. Raul is gone for whatever the reasons are. We will probably never know until his biography comes out. He was a good player but one we will manage without.
Despite his ability he was a very poor tackler. I said earlier, and I stick by it, he was a coward when it came to 50/50 tackles. In fact his current injury was caused by that cowardice. I dont hold anything against him for leaving to be honest. Probably because I never actually got to like him enough to miss him. Possibly the lure of more money, CL and a manager that he knew was what turned his head. Im sure he has also had enough time to realise that he wouldnt be in Kenny's first eleven.
Despite his ability he was a very poor tackler. I said earlier, and I stick by it, he was a coward when it came to 50/50 tackles. In fact his current injury was caused by that cowardice. I dont hold anything against him for leaving to be honest. Probably because I never actually got to like him enough to miss him. Possibly the lure of more money, CL and a manager that he knew was what turned his head. Im sure he has also had enough time to realise that he wouldnt be in Kenny's first eleven.
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I really cant believe we swapped Aquilani, Raul and Cole for Adam, Henderson and Downing
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It's funny, I'm quite happy with the exchange of the former three for the latter. I think we've come out ahead in those deals.
In the former three we have three players that are all quite similar in that they play further forward, and try to unlock defence, and can have great games and also poor ones.
In the latter three, we have a player in Adam who is excellent at set pieces(which we've needed for ages) and plays from deeper, picking out passes from there, which we really struggle with when Gerrard isn't there.
We also have a player in Downing that gives us width, and deliveries from wide areas(which we haven't had in even longer)and the ability to attack defences with pace.
We have a player with lots of potential, obviously we can't bank on anything with Henderson but he has the potential to be the best of the lot.
We've now gained players with different skills that give us the opportunity to change our style more often and make it more difficult for oppositions to deal with us. We've for too long gone for the typical in the hole type player, which hasn't worked more often than not.
I'm not saying any of Aqua, Minge or Cole may not have done a job for us this season, they probably would have done ok, but they are not players up at the level of Suarez, Gerrards or Reinas level, who are really the only players that are irreplaceable in the squad.
I really cant believe we swapped Aquilani, Raul and Cole for Adam, Henderson and Downing
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It's funny, I'm quite happy with the exchange of the former three for the latter. I think we've come out ahead in those deals.
In the former three we have three players that are all quite similar in that they play further forward, and try to unlock defence, and can have great games and also poor ones.
In the latter three, we have a player in Adam who is excellent at set pieces(which we've needed for ages) and plays from deeper, picking out passes from there, which we really struggle with when Gerrard isn't there.
We also have a player in Downing that gives us width, and deliveries from wide areas(which we haven't had in even longer)and the ability to attack defences with pace.
We have a player with lots of potential, obviously we can't bank on anything with Henderson but he has the potential to be the best of the lot.
We've now gained players with different skills that give us the opportunity to change our style more often and make it more difficult for oppositions to deal with us. We've for too long gone for the typical in the hole type player, which hasn't worked more often than not.
I'm not saying any of Aqua, Minge or Cole may not have done a job for us this season, they probably would have done ok, but they are not players up at the level of Suarez, Gerrards or Reinas level, who are really the only players that are irreplaceable in the squad.
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