Harvey

[keniget]

Flavour of the month - and he’s not good enough to start for us, so he’d sit on the bench wasting away.

Yeah, I don't think there is any point in us signing a player in the 18-21 age bracket that needs a couple seasons in the first team to develop.

 

[StevieM]

Yeah, I don't think there is any point in us signing a player in the 18-21 age bracket that needs a couple seasons in the first team to develop.

I think we have a clear strategy of not signing players in that age group - which makes sense.

 

[MomoWASright]

I think we have a clear strategy of not signing players in that age group - which makes sense.

Agreed. They range seems to attract the same price as a fully fledged 24 year old yet you still have to put the effort in to develop them.

 

[StevieM]

Agreed. They range seems to attract the same price as a fully fledged 24 year old yet you still have to put the effort in to develop them.

Exactly - or you pick them up for peanuts before they hit 18 and develop them.

18-21 cost loads and need to play to progress but aren’t quite good enough to hold down a spot in a top team - this is Harvey’s problem - he’s too good to be loaned out and not quite good enough yet to be first choice.

All he can do is keep working away in training, improving and wait for the chance to play consistently - which unfortunately looks like only happening if we get an injury to a midfielder.

 

[moron]

It still amazes me when fans pile on a player who isn’t playing regularly and isn’t in any sort of form or rhythm because he’s not showing world class skillz every time he sets foot on the pitch.

Is the biggest change is society of late, the absolute death of patience of any sort - I can’t remember it being this bad - a couple of poor performances and all of a sudden a player’s shit and needs selling.

That’s not to say Harvey hasn’t got work to do or needs to be better.

What next - Nyoni’s shit and will never make it, so we should sell now?

@StevieM - do you think fans want to do this ? - no they don't - I have never seen a future for a lot of our players - we all (if we are honest with ourselves) realize what the level is at this club and the truth is that a player like Elliot is not going to make the grade for us, he just isn't. You know how we know ? - coz there are people on here who have seen the likes of Owen/Sterling/Gerard come through from a young age and realize the levels required for a youngster to become a first team regular.

The one thing we should have learnt a long time ago before Klopp came to us - is that there is no point having these attachments to these players - it's pointless. If they are not good enough even as a sub or to cover and convince us that they can make a difference against a team like Plymouth then I am all for letting them go, I also want to see Diaz go as well, and for that matter Jota/Nunez can leave. No one is going to start on the other youngsters coz they hardly play anyway and some physically not fully developed.

 

[moron]

But he just turns 22 in a few months.

For context / at the same age. Gravy was being criticised by Liverpool fans as a useless signing we should get rid of, Slobbers was playing for RB Salzburg, Macca was on loan to junior teams in Argentina having yet to even come to England, let alone play for Brighton.

Why are some people desperate for our younger players to not succeed?

He is not gonna improve to become whatever you imagining, he is not a great dribbler, dont have speed, dont have physicality, and is not an owen sized striker, so I have no idea what future you see him in at this club.

 

[StevieM]

He is not gonna improve to become whatever you imagining, he is not a great dribbler, dont have speed, dont have physicality, and is not an owen sized striker, so I have no idea what future you see him in at this club.

He’s a similar stature to Bernardo Silva, Mac Allister Luka Modric - those are the types of players he should be aiming to replicate - work rate, passing and technical ability on the ball are his key attributes - he’s doesn’t need to be built like a brick shithouse or run like a whippet.

We’ve one this before - at the same age, Silva was just starting to establish himself at Monaco, Macca was still in Argentina and Modric was still at Zagreb.

The problem is people like you always tend to covet other things.

Be careful - that’s the mindset that leads to the calls for Curtis to be sold next.