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The Italian stallion

What were Chiesa's stats last season? 33 match games (involvements I assume), 10 goals and 4 assists? I'd take that every day of the week for £12m. Plus it means a backup and rest for Mo., whereby the opposition doesn't think their job is done when he goes off. FAC, LC and some CL games too I assume.

This could be a fantastic buy with little to no downside even if he only matches Thiago's appearance level over the 4 years of his (Chiesa's) contract!
 
I’m keeping my expectations low - we’re signing an injury-prone Italian after all - but I think even in case he doesn’t fully settle, Chiesa brings a touch of class that Slot requires of his attackers. I think Jota has been key to our attack functioning as well as it did so far - he’s a player who can coolly execute a flawless and unorthodox action at a key moment, but beyond him and Mo we don’t have a lot of attackers with a track record of doing that with any consistency.

In Chiesa we’re adding another forward who can do some of what Jota does - a killer touch or a shot that instantly turns a regular attack into a big chance - and even if doesn’t regain his pre-injury acceleration and explosiveness, that touch of class will still be valuable.
 


When deployed on the right wing, he focuses on delivering driven crosses to feet, which are more accurate and effective than his lofted crosses - which tend to overshoot his teammates.

On the left wing, Chiesa prefers to push closer to the goal line and cut back, resulting in higher expected assists (xA) on this side.

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In Serie A last season – where Chiesa played 81% of his minutes as a second striker – he completed 36.7 high-intensity pressures per 90, a figure that saw him rank second among all of Juventus’ forwards and attacking midfielders. His high-intensity pressure map below shows he’s someone willing to work hard in all areas of the pitch.

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I suppose as backup for Salah it could be a worthwhile signing. 6 forwards does seem a bit like overkill tbh though. One of them probably won't even make the bench, will they?
 
He speaks English well it seems and not total wanker. He will do fine and a better option than I imagined, low risk and hope he does well. I assume we priced his injury into the price even with a year left.

He actually does look like a mouthy wanker.
Which ironically makes me think he isn't one.

For £10m, I just need him to be more available than Thiago or Ox. A Curtis / Jota level availability would be grand.
 
I'm so glad we've finally replaced Smicer

The club needs its mascots in order to win european trophies. Since turn of the century we've had Smicer, Origi, Gary Mac. Now its time for Freddie Church
 
It stands for Open Play chances created

So Diaz, Gakpo and Jota have identical numbers between Chances created and OP chances created, presumably because because they don’t take set pieces. Not sure what accounts for Nunez having a higher overall Chances created than only open play ones.

But then in Chisea’s case, the difference is huge! Does he take a lot of corners and free-kicks?
 
So Diaz, Gakpo and Jota have identical numbers between Chances created and OP chances created, presumably because because they don’t take set pieces. Not sure what accounts for Nunez having a higher overall Chances created than only open play ones.

But then in Chisea’s case, the difference is huge! Does he take a lot of corners and free-kicks?

Based on the map, yes, unless he likes to dribble to the corner flag and pretend.
 
It's important to note that a fully fit Chiesa is much more than just a backup for Salah. Chiesa offers direct running, the ability to beat defenders, high-level dribbling skills, and is genuinely two-footed—something even Salah, at his peak, didn't possess. While Salah remains a powerful player, he is starting to decline in some areas. There will be moments in games when Slot will rely on Chiesa's skill set more than Salah's, meaning their differing strengths add further tactical options. It's not just about bringing Chiesa on to give Salah a rest or when he's looking tired, although that of course will help things. On that point, we have to consider Ramadan 2025, when our top scorer could be running on empty during a crucial stretch of the season. Hopefully, this will go someway to reducing our reliance on Salah during this period.
 
I’m keeping my expectations low - we’re signing an injury-prone Italian after all - but I think even in case he doesn’t fully settle, Chiesa brings a touch of class that Slot requires of his attackers. I think Jota has been key to our attack functioning as well as it did so far - he’s a player who can coolly execute a flawless and unorthodox action at a key moment, but beyond him and Mo we don’t have a lot of attackers with a track record of doing that with any consistency.

In Chiesa we’re adding another forward who can do some of what Jota does - a killer touch or a shot that instantly turns a regular attack into a big chance - and even if doesn’t regain his pre-injury acceleration and explosiveness, that touch of class will still be valuable.

Is he "that" injury prone though? Bar the ACL injury he has never had any injury that has kept him out longer than 2 weeks.
 
For this price, he can bomb and it's fine. I have low expectations, impact kind of player, but glad we have a baller.

7 strikers for 5 spots per game (3 on pitch, 2 on the bench)?

Gakpo (on and off)
Darwin (on and off)
Diaz (on and off)
Jota (Game changer, injury prone)
Salah (Game changer)
Danns (Clinical for the future)
Chiesa (Game changer, injury prone)
 
So were Díaz and Nunez, and neither has been good enough, we are still hoping that both start doing things they consistently haven't so far.

I want forwards at that next level. I'm not saying they are easy to find, although I've been lucky enough to watch more than a handful, but they are harder to find the way we are looking.

We are trying to move on from a world class front three. We don't need to find all those goals but we do need some of these option players to be more than that, otherwise our attacking options will continue being strongest I've ever seen, while our best team isn't close. Maybe this will be the one, but I don't see it. I'd love if he means that we don't need to play Salah every game when he's inevitably faded for months, or, even better, to manage his minutes a tad so we don't need to see that version of him.

The counterpoint is that this is just great business. He is cheap as shit, and even if he gets through a season and just does ok with no major injury, at the very worst he, like any of the other options we have, has resale value and we can keep trying to trade up.

Everything we've done this summer reads as perfectly fine if we didn't have looming holes next year.
Ever the optimist 😀
 
For this price, he can bomb and it's fine. I have low expectations, impact kind of player, but glad we have a baller.

7 strikers for 5 spots per game (3 on pitch, 2 on the bench)?

Gakpo (on and off)
Darwin (on and off)
Diaz (on and off)
Jota (Game changer, injury prone)
Salah (Game changer)
Danns (Clinical for the future)
Chiesa (Game changer, injury prone)
Danns will probably be sent out on loan when he's fully fit.
 
Is he "that" injury prone though? Bar the ACL injury he has never had any injury that has kept him out longer than 2 weeks.

The danger is reoccurrence - seems to be 1 in 5 are prone to it.


High second ACL injury rate​

We found that 17.8% of players sustained a second ipsilateral graft or contralateral ACL rupture following ACLR and RTT within an average follow-up of 5 years. This finding extends previous literature on a general athletic population following ACLR, in particular with the pooled rate of second ACL injury (17.6%) in a systematic review including only clinical studies with a minimum follow-up of 5 years.26 Our findings are also similar to the pooled second ACL injury rate (15%) in a more recent systematic review including studies with a minimum follow-up of 1 year.9 However, second ACL injury rates in large single-centre consecutive patient series seem to be somewhat lower (9%–12% over 5 years from ACLR).27–29

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If it wasn't abundantly clear, my work has yet to realise that my current full-time job can be completed with about ~6-hours of effort a week.
 
We had Milner, we have Gomez and now we have Chiesa.

Career stats:

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Juve stat:

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He’s right-footed, but seems to do better on the right. I don’t think we can say we’ve just signed another left winger based on this.
 
I suppose as backup for Salah it could be a worthwhile signing. 6 forwards does seem a bit like overkill tbh though. One of them probably won't even make the bench, will they?

Absolutely not overkill.

One injury and you're now rotating 4 forwards with 3 games a week.

We had to play kids against Chelsea in the league cup final last year. Didn't we start with Bradley as RWF in that game (and look to rush Mo back to the team where he got injured again and ended the season poorly)?

With the new CL format and more games, we absolutely need 6 forward players.

City have Bobb, Savio, Grealish, Foden, Haaland, Doku
Arse have Saka, Nelson, Trossard, Martinelli, Jesus, Havertz
United have Rashford, Garnacho, Amad, Antony, Hojlund, Zirkzee
Chelsea have Neto, Palmer, Nkunku, Jackson, Madueke, Mudryk, Guiu, D Forfana, Sterling + more

We now have Salah, Chiesa, Diaz, Nunez, Gakpo, Jota.
 
When deployed on the right wing, he focuses on delivering driven crosses to feet, which are more accurate and effective than his lofted crosses - which tend to overshoot his teammates.

On the left wing, Chiesa prefers to push closer to the goal line and cut back, resulting in higher expected assists (xA) on this side.

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In Serie A last season – where Chiesa played 81% of his minutes as a second striker – he completed 36.7 high-intensity pressures per 90, a figure that saw him rank second among all of Juventus’ forwards and attacking midfielders. His high-intensity pressure map below shows he’s someone willing to work hard in all areas of the pitch.

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View: https://dai.ly/x94o220


I'm hungry so I initially read that third one as "Chance-creating curries".
 
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