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* PS I may need to be reminded I posted this, later on, as my knees will also jerk
I could have prefaced my "halfwit" comment by saying it was in reference to last year's mess, but didn't really feel the need.
And to Doctor-Mac and those others who've taken this ever so seriously - it's worth noting (despite your continued insistence) that I've not "abused" Dalglish, or said anything derogatory before. I've continually questioned his shite performance as our manager last year, which has got you desperately upset it seems, enough for you to stop typing on an internet forum so I can only assume you two are close. But anyway, I didn't abuse him.
And also, just so I'm up to date with these things, can someone clarify the legend-levels for me?
I'm assuming Dalglish is top of the legend tree based on the reactions to this thread. Fine, I'll remember that.
Where does Graeme Souness sit then? Is he sorta-legend? Almost legend? Cos I've seen him ridiculed plenty of times, so wasn't sure of the appropriate level.
Mark Lawrenson? This might be a complicated one I'd imagine. Maybe he can be Football-Legend, Commentator-Not-Legend? Which brings up another question - what are the KPI's they have to fail to meet in order to lose legend status? Cos I see Lawrenson's a shit commentator, therefore gets recognised as 'Mark Lawrenson shit commentator' as opposed to 'Mark Lawrenson once legendary Liverpool centre back'. This would be helpful to know in light of Dalglish's last season.
Danny Murphy? Jamie Redknapp?
And what about Michael Owen, who was once-legend?
It's all very tricky.
Thanks guys!
And to Doctor-Mac and those others who've taken this ever so seriously - it's worth noting (despite your continued insistence) that I've not "abused" Dalglish, or said anything derogatory before. I've continually questioned his shite performance as our manager last year, which has got you desperately upset it seems, enough for you to stop typing on an internet forum so I can only assume you two are close. But anyway, I didn't abuse him.
And also, just so I'm up to date with these things, can someone clarify the legend-levels for me?
I'm assuming Dalglish is top of the legend tree based on the reactions to this thread. Fine, I'll remember that.
Where does Graeme Souness sit then? Is he sorta-legend? Almost legend? Cos I've seen him ridiculed plenty of times, so wasn't sure of the appropriate level.
Mark Lawrenson? This might be a complicated one I'd imagine. Maybe he can be Football-Legend, Commentator-Not-Legend? Which brings up another question - what are the KPI's they have to fail to meet in order to lose legend status? Cos I see Lawrenson's a shit commentator, therefore gets recognised as 'Mark Lawrenson shit commentator' as opposed to 'Mark Lawrenson once legendary Liverpool centre back'. This would be helpful to know in light of Dalglish's last season.
Danny Murphy? Jamie Redknapp?
And what about Michael Owen, who was once-legend?
It's all very tricky.
Thanks guys!
Those ones are a bit tricky because they either weren't legends in the first place (Murphy, Redknapp), or spoiled their memory (Owen, Souness).
You seem to have managed with Lawrenson perfectly, as shit pundit/commentator, as well as legendary Liverpool centre back.
The Dalglish one is the easy one though, and I suspect you know that. He's as spotless as anyone at the club could possibly be while in flesh and blood and not statue. So the halfwit thing was cunty.
If only there were some way to communicate that point to you via the internet. Hrm. Quitting the forum is clearly the way forward.
You seem to have managed with Lawrenson perfectly, as shit pundit/commentator, as well as legendary Liverpool centre back.
The Dalglish one is the easy one though, and I suspect you know that. He's as spotless as anyone at the club could possibly be while in flesh and blood and not statue. So the halfwit thing was cunty.
If only there were some way to communicate that point to you via the internet. Hrm. Quitting the forum is clearly the way forward.
I don't have "consistent digs at Liverpool the city, Anfield, Merseyside, the Northwest, our players, our managers, the fans, the club"
I don't hold any of those things in the same light as others. That can be seen as criticisms if you like, but they aren't. I like Liverpool, I like the club, etc etc. I just don't happen to think Liverpool is actually the greatest city in the world. That's not really a dig, it's just my opinion. I'm not saying it's shite mate. Just like when I've spent the past 6 months questioning what Dalglish did last season, some people suggest that's "abusive". It's not.
I appreciate the point you're trying to make in this thread on my behalf, but I'm quite comfortable with my stance.
I don't see a problem with that. I loved Liverpool when I was there, but that doesn't mean it's the greatest city I've been too ...
Hmmm another thread where Ryan pisses everyone off.
You are as good at that as I am at sounded retarded.
The halfwit comment was to much but I'm sure you knew that as you had already lined up the perfect rebuttle.
So why do it? It's weird as you always campaign for the want for great higher level tactical football debate, yet you almost always ruin the chance for it by neddling the very posters you want to discuss football with. Why Ryan? Why?
As for your halfwit comment and why Daglish is more of legend than any other?
Maybe just maybe some people think Dalglish is legend above all others as he has been through it all. The great managers, the titles, the European cups, the domestic cups, the tragedy, both as a player and a player manager.
How about the fact he came back and did whatever was asked of him even after getting knocked back for the job. How about even after that he still came back and said yes 6 months later when it all went to shit. All for the good of the club. Or how about when he walked away his last act was to refuse the 4M pay off and telling the board to put it towards new players!
Yes it didn't work out for him and thank the heavens we have you to remind us of this in every second thread on SCM.
Oh and you may want to remember Kenny's handling of the media, the fans, the players and most importantly the family's effected by Hillsborough before you point out his handling of Suarez and how bad it was.
Yes he made mistakes but Jesus Christ above anyone maybe bar Shanks he deserves every fucking football fans respect, never mind LFC fans.
And the fact you had to be reminded of that in the first place should tell everyone everything they need to know about you if they didn't already.
As for Rodgers I said before the first game I expected us to be lucky to get 6 points in our first 5 games and at the moment we could easily lose our first 5 but I still think we will surge up the table after our nightmare opening set of fixtures to get into the top 4.
You are as good at that as I am at sounded retarded.
The halfwit comment was to much but I'm sure you knew that as you had already lined up the perfect rebuttle.
So why do it? It's weird as you always campaign for the want for great higher level tactical football debate, yet you almost always ruin the chance for it by neddling the very posters you want to discuss football with. Why Ryan? Why?
As for your halfwit comment and why Daglish is more of legend than any other?
Maybe just maybe some people think Dalglish is legend above all others as he has been through it all. The great managers, the titles, the European cups, the domestic cups, the tragedy, both as a player and a player manager.
How about the fact he came back and did whatever was asked of him even after getting knocked back for the job. How about even after that he still came back and said yes 6 months later when it all went to shit. All for the good of the club. Or how about when he walked away his last act was to refuse the 4M pay off and telling the board to put it towards new players!
Yes it didn't work out for him and thank the heavens we have you to remind us of this in every second thread on SCM.
Oh and you may want to remember Kenny's handling of the media, the fans, the players and most importantly the family's effected by Hillsborough before you point out his handling of Suarez and how bad it was.
Yes he made mistakes but Jesus Christ above anyone maybe bar Shanks he deserves every fucking football fans respect, never mind LFC fans.
And the fact you had to be reminded of that in the first place should tell everyone everything they need to know about you if they didn't already.
As for Rodgers I said before the first game I expected us to be lucky to get 6 points in our first 5 games and at the moment we could easily lose our first 5 but I still think we will surge up the table after our nightmare opening set of fixtures to get into the top 4.
The point where you actually compare Danny Murphy, Jamie Redknapp and Michael Owen to Kenny Dalglish really says it all.... Good luck
Shouldn't you be letting a pocket watch sway from side to side in front of our eyes as you say these words? It's the only chance you have of making them end up being taken seriously.
OhMyGodWereStillTalkingAboutRyan
Hes good.
Hes not THAT good.
There were 3 pages of debate about me that I hadn't even participated in. I notice another thread where you've brought me up too.
If it's that annoying for you, y'know...
Innit.
I do sort of agree with Ryan about Liverpool the city. There does seem to be a slightly delusional sense of pride in the place in some people - it always used to make me cringe when the club website would interview new players and beg them for an approving word about the city. People like Aquilani and Morientes who'd just arrived from great, sun-drenched, European capitals....
IMO it's an interesting place with lots of beautiful buildings and a great night life, but the weather's fucking lousy, there's not a lot of money, and large parts of it are as grim as anywhere in Britain. I don't really see the problem with calling a spade a spade.
IMO it's an interesting place with lots of beautiful buildings and a great night life, but the weather's fucking lousy, there's not a lot of money, and large parts of it are as grim as anywhere in Britain. I don't really see the problem with calling a spade a spade.
That should be the entry for Liverpool in the Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy.
Fair enough. He sounds like a proper cunt to me. it's called being a SUPPORTER. Clue's in the title.
Pretty much yeah!
There is a massively self inflated opinion of this city here, I regularly get stick for saying I prefer other places for different things. The dickheads that present & listen to radio 'aids for your ears' city are the worst offenders.
I'm from Asia and I love Liverpool the city. I got to say though, 70% - 80% of the world population isn't going to agree with me. If you don't like turn-of-the-century office architecture, abandoned buildings, capitalist monuments and a strange sense of isolation from the rest of the country, Liverpool isn't really the place for you...
...oh, and Anfield is a slum.
...oh, and Anfield is a slum.
And pretty much most cities in the country.
In fairness we were pretty good in the first half(just couldn't finish), and in the second we were down a man. So you're basing his lack of intelligence on one half with only 10 men. I'd wait at least another 45 minutes before condemning him.
I think people can allow to have a critical eye when we fell that much apart. it was clear that our game plan fell apart with a man down, and we were not able to cope. And fair enough, that can happen. But I was dissapointed that we fell that much apart, and were not able to stop WBA in any part of the field. We were quite lucky it didn't end with a worse humiliation than it did. Judgmenet can be passed out in a later stage, but either we pick ourselves up now or we can practically end the season in September!
Not first choice?
I didn't condemn him.
Localny says he seems to have game intelligence.
I said he looked dumbstruck. (which he did.)
There isn't much evidence but if you're going to judge, you can only go on what's before you.
Btw, I'd expect a manager to have a Plan B when Plan A isn't going too well. If we're gg to fall apart against WBA whenever we have 10 men that's a worry.
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