Of all the things 5 Million quid could get you...
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He'd be a long way down MY list, that's for sure. I'm pretty certain he'd keep Sunderland in the PL though. At that level, he's proved himself a competent manager.
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He'd be a long way down MY list, that's for sure. I'm pretty certain he'd keep Sunderland in the PL though. At that level, he's proved himself a competent manager.
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I agree. And it's pretty much all Sunderland will be after for now. Someone who can come in, not spend too much, consolidate and stay in the Prem.
He'd be a long way down MY list, that's for sure. I'm pretty certain he'd keep Sunderland in the PL though. At that level, he's proved himself a competent manager.
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I agree. And it's pretty much all Sunderland will be after for now. Someone who can come in, not spend too much, consolidate and stay in the Prem.
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He's done a decent job with Wigan - they were in freefall when he joined.
And with signings like Palacious, Valencia and to a point, Zaki, has shown he can do well in the market.
I'm surprised Wigan have stood aside so easily.
And with signings like Palacious, Valencia and to a point, Zaki, has shown he can do well in the market.
I'm surprised Wigan have stood aside so easily.
Ugh, why can't he go away.
Sunderland "we need a big name manager with ambition"
Steve Bruce five games in to next season after a loss "well, we can't compete with the likes of Spurs, and I think we are doing a good job. The referee cost us yet again, but we are a small club who doesn't get those calls. Just remember that nothing is ever my fault!"
Sunderland "we need a big name manager with ambition"
Steve Bruce five games in to next season after a loss "well, we can't compete with the likes of Spurs, and I think we are doing a good job. The referee cost us yet again, but we are a small club who doesn't get those calls. Just remember that nothing is ever my fault!"
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He's done a decent job with Wigan - they were in freefall when he joined.
And with signings like Palacious, Valencia and to a point, Zaki, has shown he can do well in the market.
I'm surprised Wigan have stood aside so easily.
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He did a decent enough job with Birmingham before that (didn't Wigan pay about 3.5m to them to get Bruce?)
His transfer record over the last 3 or so years has been pretty impressive to be fair.
He's done a decent job with Wigan - they were in freefall when he joined.
And with signings like Palacious, Valencia and to a point, Zaki, has shown he can do well in the market.
I'm surprised Wigan have stood aside so easily.
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He did a decent enough job with Birmingham before that (didn't Wigan pay about 3.5m to them to get Bruce?)
His transfer record over the last 3 or so years has been pretty impressive to be fair.
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33816.msg877234#msg877234 date=1243495340]
He's done a decent job with Wigan - they were in freefall when he joined.
And with signings like Palacious, Valencia and to a point, Zaki, has shown he can do well in the market.
I'm surprised Wigan have stood aside so easily.
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He did a decent enough job with Birmingham before that (didn't Wigan pay about 3.5m to them to get Bruce?)
His transfer record over the last 3 or so years has been pretty impressive to be fair.
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He got them relegated!
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33816.msg877234#msg877234 date=1243495340]
He's done a decent job with Wigan - they were in freefall when he joined.
And with signings like Palacious, Valencia and to a point, Zaki, has shown he can do well in the market.
I'm surprised Wigan have stood aside so easily.
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He did a decent enough job with Birmingham before that (didn't Wigan pay about 3.5m to them to get Bruce?)
His transfer record over the last 3 or so years has been pretty impressive to be fair.
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He got them relegated!
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[quote author=Buddha link=topic=33816.msg877247#msg877247 date=1243497030]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33816.msg877234#msg877234 date=1243495340]
He's done a decent job with Wigan - they were in freefall when he joined.
And with signings like Palacious, Valencia and to a point, Zaki, has shown he can do well in the market.
I'm surprised Wigan have stood aside so easily.
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He did a decent enough job with Birmingham before that (didn't Wigan pay about 3.5m to them to get Bruce?)
His transfer record over the last 3 or so years has been pretty impressive to be fair.
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He got them relegated!
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That was McCleish, no?
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33816.msg877234#msg877234 date=1243495340]
He's done a decent job with Wigan - they were in freefall when he joined.
And with signings like Palacious, Valencia and to a point, Zaki, has shown he can do well in the market.
I'm surprised Wigan have stood aside so easily.
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He did a decent enough job with Birmingham before that (didn't Wigan pay about 3.5m to them to get Bruce?)
His transfer record over the last 3 or so years has been pretty impressive to be fair.
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He got them relegated!
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That was McCleish, no?
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[quote author=Buddha link=topic=33816.msg877247#msg877247 date=1243497030]
He did a decent enough job with Birmingham before that (didn't Wigan pay about 3.5m to them to get Bruce?)
His transfer record over the last 3 or so years has been pretty impressive to be fair.
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He got them relegated!
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Yea, but it wasn't his fault.
GOOGLE even thinks he's a moaner:
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,220,000 for steve bruce excuses.
Results 1 - 10 of about 343,000 for ferguson excuses
Results 1 - 10 of about 74,500 for wenger excuses
Results 1 - 10 of about 47,500 for benitez excuses
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=33816.msg877247#msg877247 date=1243497030]
He did a decent enough job with Birmingham before that (didn't Wigan pay about 3.5m to them to get Bruce?)
His transfer record over the last 3 or so years has been pretty impressive to be fair.
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He got them relegated!
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Yea, but it wasn't his fault.
GOOGLE even thinks he's a moaner:
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,220,000 for steve bruce excuses.
Results 1 - 10 of about 343,000 for ferguson excuses
Results 1 - 10 of about 74,500 for wenger excuses
Results 1 - 10 of about 47,500 for benitez excuses
[quote author=foureyes link=topic=33816.msg877249#msg877249 date=1243497255]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=33816.msg877247#msg877247 date=1243497030]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33816.msg877234#msg877234 date=1243495340]
He's done a decent job with Wigan - they were in freefall when he joined.
And with signings like Palacious, Valencia and to a point, Zaki, has shown he can do well in the market.
I'm surprised Wigan have stood aside so easily.
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He did a decent enough job with Birmingham before that (didn't Wigan pay about 3.5m to them to get Bruce?)
His transfer record over the last 3 or so years has been pretty impressive to be fair.
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He got them relegated!
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He also got them promoted twice, and had PL finishes of tenth, twelfth and thirteenth.
Bruce is a horrible ex-Manc fat-headed twat, but he's also a competent mid-level PL manager and it's silly to suggest otherwise.
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33816.msg877234#msg877234 date=1243495340]
He's done a decent job with Wigan - they were in freefall when he joined.
And with signings like Palacious, Valencia and to a point, Zaki, has shown he can do well in the market.
I'm surprised Wigan have stood aside so easily.
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He did a decent enough job with Birmingham before that (didn't Wigan pay about 3.5m to them to get Bruce?)
His transfer record over the last 3 or so years has been pretty impressive to be fair.
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He got them relegated!
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He also got them promoted twice, and had PL finishes of tenth, twelfth and thirteenth.
Bruce is a horrible ex-Manc fat-headed twat, but he's also a competent mid-level PL manager and it's silly to suggest otherwise.
Still, it would be great if Sunderland got relegated next season.
And wasn't Noiyall banging on about having to get a "big name" manager in order to attract "big name" players?
Steve Bruce?
Steve Bruce?
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And wasn't Noiyall banging on about having to get a "big name" manager in order to attract "big name" players?
Steve Bruce?
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Well he's got a big head. A very big head.
And wasn't Noiyall banging on about having to get a "big name" manager in order to attract "big name" players?
Steve Bruce?
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Well he's got a big head. A very big head.
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[quote author=foureyes link=topic=33816.msg877249#msg877249 date=1243497255]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=33816.msg877247#msg877247 date=1243497030]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33816.msg877234#msg877234 date=1243495340]
He's done a decent job with Wigan - they were in freefall when he joined.
And with signings like Palacious, Valencia and to a point, Zaki, has shown he can do well in the market.
I'm surprised Wigan have stood aside so easily.
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He did a decent enough job with Birmingham before that (didn't Wigan pay about 3.5m to them to get Bruce?)
His transfer record over the last 3 or so years has been pretty impressive to be fair.
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He got them relegated!
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He also got them promoted twice, and had PL finishes of tenth, twelfth and thirteenth.
Bruce is a horrible ex-Manc fat-headed twat, but he's also a competent mid-level PL manager and it's silly to suggest otherwise.
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I agree entirely with his record overall and haven't said otherwise, but I wouldn't class getting B'ham relegated as being 'decent enough'.
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[quote author=Buddha link=topic=33816.msg877247#msg877247 date=1243497030]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=33816.msg877234#msg877234 date=1243495340]
He's done a decent job with Wigan - they were in freefall when he joined.
And with signings like Palacious, Valencia and to a point, Zaki, has shown he can do well in the market.
I'm surprised Wigan have stood aside so easily.
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He did a decent enough job with Birmingham before that (didn't Wigan pay about 3.5m to them to get Bruce?)
His transfer record over the last 3 or so years has been pretty impressive to be fair.
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He got them relegated!
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He also got them promoted twice, and had PL finishes of tenth, twelfth and thirteenth.
Bruce is a horrible ex-Manc fat-headed twat, but he's also a competent mid-level PL manager and it's silly to suggest otherwise.
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I agree entirely with his record overall and haven't said otherwise, but I wouldn't class getting B'ham relegated as being 'decent enough'.
Oh and I'm not surprised that old fat head himself has run off from another club at the mere sniff of money.
Okay so he has shown himself to be reasonably competent but he has hardly shown himself to be the most loyal of managers. He'll probably keep them up but ultimately he'll be off as soon as another club with some money show an interest, and I doubt he will leave a great situation behind when he does.
Okay so he has shown himself to be reasonably competent but he has hardly shown himself to be the most loyal of managers. He'll probably keep them up but ultimately he'll be off as soon as another club with some money show an interest, and I doubt he will leave a great situation behind when he does.
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Noticed on the BBC that Wigan are approaching Martinez... shrewd.
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Martinez seems to have the makings to become a top manager. Andy Scott at Brentford, DiMatteo at MK Dons and, unfortunately it has to be said, Darren Ferguson at Peterbro are the other bright-young-things that are showing good potential to become Premier League managers.
Noticed on the BBC that Wigan are approaching Martinez... shrewd.
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Martinez seems to have the makings to become a top manager. Andy Scott at Brentford, DiMatteo at MK Dons and, unfortunately it has to be said, Darren Ferguson at Peterbro are the other bright-young-things that are showing good potential to become Premier League managers.
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After all the ass kissing and "a big club will come knocking for him soon" by Whelan, he ends up at Sunderland with little to no fuss. Ridiculous.
Noticed on the BBC that Wigan are approaching Martinez... shrewd.
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Yes, very shrewd.
He'll be managin in the Premier League within a year or two anyway, regardless of whether Swansea make it there. I hope he brings a couple of that team with him too, jsut to see how they'd fare in the big time.
I hope he doesn't end up at Wigan though. They're a shite club, with no support, and no right to be in the PL. I'd prefer to see him get a decent club with real ambition.
After all the ass kissing and "a big club will come knocking for him soon" by Whelan, he ends up at Sunderland with little to no fuss. Ridiculous.
Noticed on the BBC that Wigan are approaching Martinez... shrewd.
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Yes, very shrewd.
He'll be managin in the Premier League within a year or two anyway, regardless of whether Swansea make it there. I hope he brings a couple of that team with him too, jsut to see how they'd fare in the big time.
I hope he doesn't end up at Wigan though. They're a shite club, with no support, and no right to be in the PL. I'd prefer to see him get a decent club with real ambition.
Despite being physically repellent, Bruce does OK at shit clubs.
And Sunderland are a shit club.
So he should do OK.
And Sunderland are a shit club.
So he should do OK.
Bruce is a brilliant signing for this kind of club.
I'd have Martinez as manger when Rafa leaves.
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I'd have Martinez as manger when Rafa leaves.
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Based on what, exactly
I'd have Martinez as manger when Rafa leaves.
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Based on what, exactly
Intuition.
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