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Trent, Salah and VVD

FourFourTwo (don't know if it's a reliable sauce) reporting that 'a breakthrough' has occurred and that 'concrete steps' have been made.
 
I don't have an issue with you thinking he's a Judas cunt, even if I disagree.

I have an issue with the double standard. You frequently defend the ownership, and I have some sympathy for the argument. They're doing a good job, they swerve short termism and immediate investment for more sensible sustainable things. They are hard nosed negotiators, getting good value, keeping keepers who want to leave, getting players for less, etc. And, if we're on top of the world, we can coast a little. You list all the good sensible profitable things they've done that aren't romantic or selfless at all, but are sound management of an asset, and you have zero issue with that, they're actually the reason you laud them.

But some cog in this machine, who is well rewarded, but by orders of magnitude less, they should act charitably. For the owners it's a business. For Trent it's more. Oddly too, the way you express that it's more and don't get betrayed is transactional. It's fucking peverse. It's like if you said Judas was alright so long as he gave the pieces of silver to the church.

So for me, the club comes first. Not the player. And if a player messes with our financial ability to sign other players, by leaving on a free, then yes, I would think poorly of them. I'm a Liverpool fan first, not a TAA fan.
 
Liverpool FC is a multi billion club owned by a foreign American Investment fund. It’s not a local club run by volunteers. I get the club loyalty but every player is going to want the best deal for himself and to be honest, in the current world so should any person.
 
So for me, the club comes first. Not the player. And if a player messes with our financial ability to sign other players, by leaving on a free, then yes, I would think poorly of them. I'm a Liverpool fan first, not a TAA fan.

Yes, the club comes first for you, you think it should for Trent, but for the owners it's fine if they run it as a business.

And if Trent wants to demonstrate he feels like you rather than like them, he can do that by paying for it.

If we had won more after we won everything, rather than standing still and rotting, do you think Trent would be as desirous of leaving?
 
you don't think he's leaving on a free to enrich himself and his entourage?
I reckon he is thinking of leaving because he believes it would be a good career move for him.
The club's inactivity around a contract offer will no doubt have contributed to that no less than delays in offering him a contract led to another club legend Stevie G thinking that hist future lay elsewhere all those years ago.
You want to believe that he is wholly responsible for the current mess.
I don't believe that the club are as blameless as that.
I am fine with them hedging their bets with Mo and Virgil up to a point but not trying to extend Trent's contract at least eighteen months ago is criminal in my view and smacks of penny pinching.
 
The owners have been excellent in making us a steady eddy business

They've been fucking awful at strengthening from a position of strength. It's like they've set a bar for how good they want us to be and that's at "occasionally successful, but always visible"
 
Yes, the club comes first for you, you think it should for Trent, but for the owners it's fine if they run it as a business.

And if Trent wants to demonstrate he feels like you rather than like them, he can do that by paying for it.

If we had won more after we won everything, rather than standing still and rotting, do you think Trent would be as desirous of leaving?

Yeah, likely I think (new challenge).
 
I reckon he is thinking of leaving because he believes it would be a good career move for him.
The club's inactivity around a contract offer will no doubt have contributed to that no less than delays in offering him a contract led to another club legend Stevie G thinking that hist future lay elsewhere all those years ago.
You want to believe that he is wholly responsible for the current mess.
I don't believe that the club are as blameless as that.

For all we know, they tried to tie him down, but he wanted to see the new manager first. He may have hedged himself.

As for Virge and Salah, they have done well. Both wanna stay, and the club is right to keep them hungry on their toes.

Club first, no?
 
The owners have been excellent in making us a steady eddy business

They've been fucking awful at strengthening from a position of strength. It's like they've set a bar for how good they want us to be and that's at "occasionally successful, but always visible"

Fair comment. This January window will be a test for sure
 
For all we know, they tried to tie him down, but he wanted to see the new manager first. He may have hedged himself.

As for Virge and Salah, they have done well. Both wanna stay, and the club is right to keep them hungry on their toes.

Club first, no?
There has been nothing about any contract talk until this season.
You are happy to believe that it is all on his head.
Fair enough, we are all entitled to our opinions

Just don't be so shocked when everyone doesn't share yours
 
Perfect time FSG to put a contract on table for Salah would have been end of last season when he was back from Afcon and horrible for 3 months post that, we may have got a decent deal and may have accepted.
 
There has been nothing about any contract talk until this season.
You are happy to believe that it is all on his head.
Fair enough, we are all entitled to our opinions

Just don't be so shocked when everyone doesn't share yours

Nah, I'm grand. I don't know if they did offer him talks on one or didn't. Or if he said he wanted to see what happened with the new manager. I'm thinking it would have been really odd if he wasn't approached at some point in 2022 or 2023. Or even early 2024. I'm thinking he wanted to see the new manager situation.

It could be all the club's fault as you say. We just don't know.

Either way, I do expect local players to not leave on a free, and yeah, I'm surprised if people are fine with it.

Especially when we are all expecting the club to splash the cash on player signings and improvements. That surely undermines the club's ability to get those signings we we may be all clamoring for.
 
The club's inactivity around a contract offer will no doubt have contributed to that no less than delays in offering him a contract led to another club legend Stevie G thinking that hist future lay elsewhere all those years ago.
You want to believe that he is wholly responsible for the current mess.
I don't believe that the club are as blameless as that.
I still don't get why people think that nothing has been happening on the renewal front (for all 3) for 18 months. There were likely stalling factors (for a month or two) when staff left/arrived but the process would have been ongoing.

The club not having come to an agreement (with their respective agents) doesn't mean nothing has happened but it does mean no contract has been offered / put in front of them for the obvious reason they wouldn't sign it.

And then Klopp announced his resignation and everything went into cryo until a new manager was announced/arrived and not only his attitude and use of said players, but also the success and future of this squad, was of major concern to those players. So who would sign a new contract until the dust settled and they could see a successful future for both themselves and the team.?

Q. If it was You (to every poster in this thread) when would you have put your eggs in the Slot basket for the foreseeable future? It would be about now for me.
 
Read a headline Salah has been offered another deal... Anyone else know anymore?
Here is the source

Mohamed Salah contract 'agreed'​

Former Egypt defender Haytham Farouk has claimed that Mohamed Salah has signed a new Liverpool contract after declaring that the club has agreed to his demands.

Farouk, who played for Egypt between 1993 and 1999, shared an old photo of himself with Salah and congratulated the winger on apparently renewing his deal at Liverpool.

In a post on X, Farouk wrote: "Congratulations on renewing your contract with the number you like and the period you want. The Egyptian king rules with his own judgments."
 
Read a headline Salah has been offered another deal... Anyone else know anymore?
Here is the source

Apparently it was a tweet in a similar tone to what we've all said.

Give him what he wants, however long he wants.

It was literally translated as he renewed his contract as he's a journalist.

But alas, it was written as a fans perspective straight after we went 3-2 up.

Original tweet here.
View: https://x.com/HaythamFarouk/status/1864418606483706134?s=19
 
To move on from Mo Salah’s output, the club first needs a striker who can stay fit and score goals consistently, as no other right-winger is ever likely to replicate the numbers he produces. The inefficiency of the Nunez deal has left the club in a position where it cannot even begin to contemplate life without Salah. The failure to make that deal work as intended has effectively tied the club’s hands, leaving us reliant on Salah for far longer than should have been necessary. Thankfully the fact Mo is so dedicated and committed to football means his brilliance is papering over some cracks from an attacking recruitment strategy that felt uncharacteristically clunky towards the end of the Klopp reign.

I wouldn't be surprised if we offer Mo another contract in a few years, but I just hope there's a proper succession plan in place by that time. In the short term it's excellent news if he signs and a timely present to Slot and the fans.
 
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