And you have to take into consideration not current tactics how the current team + Trent may fit into the team Xabi will assemble.
Trent, Salah and VVD
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They’ll wait if they want him and if they move on to someone else, good.
I wonder if Alonso is still as nailed on or even ready to take on a job as big as Real Madrid - high probability he crashes and burns there, given they seem to be disappearing up their own egotistical arse at the minute.
oh he is talking about Trent, I was talking about Alonso getting no slack. If I was Alonso, I would not take the RM job, it will be there when he is ready. I would take PSG over Real. Unlimited cash and you know you will league titles
Alonso isn't looking the real deal at all right now, although he was brilliant last year. Maybe Vincent Kompany will take over RM instead? 🤣
Anyhow, if I was Judas, I mean Trent, screwing his hometown club by leaving on a free, I would try to look and see if the grass is greener at home. Currently, it really is.
Anyhow, if I was Judas, I mean Trent, screwing his hometown club by leaving on a free, I would try to look and see if the grass is greener at home. Currently, it really is.
I can’t imagine many worse clubs to manage than PSG
By David Ornstein
Liverpool have made a contract offer to Virgil van Dijk as they attempt to end uncertainty over his future by tying the Netherlands defender to a new agreement.
Van Dijk is among three crucial players — alongside Mohamed Salah and Trent Alexander-Arnold — whose existing terms are scheduled to expire in the summer.
Their situations have become a subject of intense discussion and Salah, 32, recently said he has not yet received any proposals to prolong his Anfield career. That remained accurate as of Sunday’s 2-0 win over Manchester City, however, the anticipation is it will change soon.
By contrast, talks with Van Dijk have seen Liverpool table an opening bid to keep the 33-year-old beyond June — though it fell short of his expectations and so far there has been no breakthrough on the value or length of an extension.
The dialogue has taken place for some time and continues, amid all three men playing a central role in the side’s fine start to the season under head coach Arne Slot.
Their superb form suggests the matter is not having a negative on-field impact and the status of Van Dijk was underlined on Monday, through a nomination for the FIFPRO Men’s World11.
Conversations are also ongoing between Liverpool and Alexander-Arnold, whose age (26) and status as an academy graduate present differences to the other cases.
The right-back has generated well-documented interest from Real Madrid but, similarly to his team-mates, it remains unclear how the matter will conclude.
Liverpool have made a contract offer to Virgil van Dijk as they attempt to end uncertainty over his future by tying the Netherlands defender to a new agreement.
Van Dijk is among three crucial players — alongside Mohamed Salah and Trent Alexander-Arnold — whose existing terms are scheduled to expire in the summer.
Their situations have become a subject of intense discussion and Salah, 32, recently said he has not yet received any proposals to prolong his Anfield career. That remained accurate as of Sunday’s 2-0 win over Manchester City, however, the anticipation is it will change soon.
By contrast, talks with Van Dijk have seen Liverpool table an opening bid to keep the 33-year-old beyond June — though it fell short of his expectations and so far there has been no breakthrough on the value or length of an extension.
The dialogue has taken place for some time and continues, amid all three men playing a central role in the side’s fine start to the season under head coach Arne Slot.
Their superb form suggests the matter is not having a negative on-field impact and the status of Van Dijk was underlined on Monday, through a nomination for the FIFPRO Men’s World11.
Conversations are also ongoing between Liverpool and Alexander-Arnold, whose age (26) and status as an academy graduate present differences to the other cases.
The right-back has generated well-documented interest from Real Madrid but, similarly to his team-mates, it remains unclear how the matter will conclude.
I think the time has come for Trent to stop pissing about the club he loves so much. Sign a new contract, and leave for a fee in a year or two with a PL or two and a CL in the bag. Feck RM and their "We don't pay fees" shite.
Nothing beats winning something with the club you grew up with.
Nothing beats winning something with the club you grew up with.
He's on a free soon. Why would they pay a fee?
Because Trent wouldn't want to screw over the club he loves so much. And would require they pay a fee by arranging a deal of some kind. Old fashioned idea I know, expecting players to do the right thing.
You don't expect the owners to put themselves out in service of their asset, why would you expect the same of Trent?
Both can say they've been professional and in so doing increased the clubs value.
Why T F does the world's richest club keep getting these players on a free.
I disagree. Running your contract down, and leaving on a free is a massive judas move for me. The club should be able to get a fee, so we can reinvest. Without that principle, we'd have no Allison, No VVD and no #19.
Real Fecking Madrid should be paying for the talent our club has developed. Think of the players we could buy with a 100M fee (or even less). Yizzers going soft on him because he's local. If he was from Zanzibar, the pitchforks would be out.
He's another Mickey Owen and McManaman if he goes on a free. unacceptable.
Real Fecking Madrid should be paying for the talent our club has developed. Think of the players we could buy with a 100M fee (or even less). Yizzers going soft on him because he's local. If he was from Zanzibar, the pitchforks would be out.
He's another Mickey Owen and McManaman if he goes on a free. unacceptable.
Why do you use the phrase "running his contract down"?
He hasn't been offered a new contract until this season just like Mo and Virgil
Mate, ok, I hear you, but I don't think anyone that cares about his boyhood club, should be leaving on a free. Again, our model requires player sales for reinvestment. It's a massive betrayal.
He has been overlooked. If I was on a fixed term contract and hadn't been offered a new one I wouldn't give a shit that I'd been an apprentice at wherever it was, I'd be looking. The fact that the employer also shat on 99.7% of the other apprentices speaks to his value and their loyalty. He's just looking out for himself.
He's been treated like gold for years by the club, by the fans, and by the city. He wasn't overlooked. There was a change in management. These things happen. That might have created a disruption in the process. Who knows - he could have been offered a contract but declined for all we know because he wanted to see the new manager in action.
But yeah, he's deffo looking out for himself. Definitely not giving a hoot about the club if he leaves on a free.
But yeah, he's deffo looking out for himself. Definitely not giving a hoot about the club if he leaves on a free.
I suspect that the club thought that it could get away with letting the contract run down until the final year and he would still sign a new one because of that aforementioned loyalty.
I don't have an issue with you thinking he's a Judas cunt, even if I disagree.
I have an issue with the double standard. You frequently defend the ownership, and I have some sympathy for the argument. They're doing a good job, they swerve short termism and immediate investment for more sensible sustainable things. They are hard nosed negotiators, getting good value, keeping keepers who want to leave, getting players for less, etc. And, if we're on top of the world, we can coast a little. You list all the good sensible profitable things they've done that aren't romantic or selfless at all, but are sound management of an asset, and you have zero issue with that, they're actually the reason you laud them.
But some cog in this machine, who is well rewarded, but by orders of magnitude less, they should act charitably. For the owners it's a business. For Trent it's more. Oddly too, the way you express that it's more and don't get betrayed is transactional. It's fucking peverse. It's like if you said Judas was alright so long as he gave the pieces of silver to the church.
I have an issue with the double standard. You frequently defend the ownership, and I have some sympathy for the argument. They're doing a good job, they swerve short termism and immediate investment for more sensible sustainable things. They are hard nosed negotiators, getting good value, keeping keepers who want to leave, getting players for less, etc. And, if we're on top of the world, we can coast a little. You list all the good sensible profitable things they've done that aren't romantic or selfless at all, but are sound management of an asset, and you have zero issue with that, they're actually the reason you laud them.
But some cog in this machine, who is well rewarded, but by orders of magnitude less, they should act charitably. For the owners it's a business. For Trent it's more. Oddly too, the way you express that it's more and don't get betrayed is transactional. It's fucking peverse. It's like if you said Judas was alright so long as he gave the pieces of silver to the church.
I'll process that mate, but I'm keenly aware of how we could sign some solid players if we had a fee. And now, a player the club has treated well, beloved. and paid well is leaving without a fee. Which impacts our future success. you're good with that? Is it because he's a local lad?
I'm honestly shocked people are fine with him pulling a McMoneyman.
I'm honestly shocked people are fine with him pulling a McMoneyman.
Probably because most people don't believe that he is actually doing that
He’s too old now to have an impact anyway.
