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Mignolet worries.

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The lad is 25, still young for a keeper yet to hit his peak in his first season with us. Yes he's made mistakes but he's won us just as many points.

So zero net contribution then ??

There is no point not being behind him but at the same time....
Unimpressive distribution
Nervous handling

and hes conceding shit goals recently...

Be honest nobody in their right mind would have him over an in form Reina...

Its not Borini and its certainly not Cissokho but... ive seen better uses of cash.
 
i have no idea what some of you are on half the time , how long can you continue to bury your heads and make excuses for mingolet ? . He is what he is and it's been this way since day one , an amazing reflex shot stopper but shaky at everything else along with a worrying lack of authority . So i guess the debate comes down to whether his shot stopping outweighs all his other flaws . For the first part of the season it was , now it isn't . let's see for the rest of the season .
 
i have no idea what some of you are on half the time , how long can you continue to bury your heads and make excuses for mingolet ? . He is what he is and it's been this way since day one , an amazing reflex shot stopper but shaky at everything else along with a worrying lack of authority . So i guess the debate comes down to whether his shot stopping outweighs all his other flaws . For the first part of the season it was , now it isn't . let's see for the rest of the season .

That is a really good question, fuck knows the answer to it though.

Stopping the ball going in the net has to be first and foremost, hes failing at that now so its not outweighing his other flaws, he has a lot of work to do.
 
I find it funny that people seem more than happy to stick the boot into reina .Yeah he lost form and it may have been a good time to replace him but for a good long period he was top class . At his best he pissed all over what mingolet can do .
 
We do need some good back-up. Last week we had a very young keeper on the bench because Jones was injured. We also need a reserve keeper who is genuinely ready for matches. I know it's a different set-up these days but I still think a reserve keeper should be a regular part of the reserve squad as well as the first team squad. The reserves don't play that many matches, and there isn't an overlap in terms of fixtures, so I don't see why the number two shouldn't figure in, say, a quarter to a third of reserve games. That would at least give them a few competitive games, and it might help the younger keepers to watch and work with a senior pro (I know they already do in general training, but match day preparations would also help).

As for Mignolet, well, this is probably an irrational prejudice of mine, because I don't know what goes on in sessions at Melwood, but Achterberg doesn't seem a great goalkeeping coach. Nice bloke, but, since he arrived, Reina declined in terms of fitness and form, and Mignolet, as this thread suggests, has been struggling to cut out some bad habits. Hopefully we're looking to improve that area - Rodgers hasn't been reluctant to replace several coaches, so presumably he's open to another change there.
 
Its kind of annoying that we spent 8m on Mignolet, 17m on Sakho, 7m on Illori, brought in Cissokho and Toure and NOTHING on the front 6 and yet the defence is still shite and getting shitter and the front 6 are doing a decent job.

Mignolet 4
Enrique 2
Skrtel 3
Sakho 5
Johnson 1
Lucas 9
Gerrard 6
Henderson 10
Sterling 8
Coutinho 7
Suarez 11

Thats the order I would prioritise replacements/Improvements
 
Its kind of annoying that we spent 8m on Mignolet, 17m on Sakho, 7m on Illori, brought in Cissokho and Toure and NOTHING on the front 6 and yet the defence is still shite and getting shitter and the front 6 are doing a decent job.

Mignolet 4
Enrique 2
Skrtel 3
Sakho 5
Johnson 1
Lucas 9
Gerrard 6
Henderson 10
Sterling 8
Coutinho 7
Suarez 11

Thats the order I would prioritise replacements/Improvements
I'd change the order of maybe Gerrard, other than that... Fair enough
 
I think people are being unfair blaming Johnson for that second goal. That was all Mignolet, and Johnson was clearly distracted. It was right on his head until he flapped at it. I wasn't worried before, but I'm starting to now. His shot stopping his brilliant, but everything else is pretty poor.
 
This is his sticky patch, most keepers have them. Joe Hart a recent example. A settled back four would certainly help, a couple of clean sheets, confidence restored and he'll be fine.
 
He's bang average. Said it when he signed, not seen owt to persuade me otherwise. The back four being a constantly revolving bunch of wank hasn't helped, but he's not doing himself any favours either. If it's just a sticky patch then he needs to man the fuck up right now, or even fourth will drift away from us in a couple of weeks.
 
Don't know if any of you have noticed this, but recently it has occurred to me that Mignolet has the fear.
You can just see it and sense it in him when he's waiting in the tunnel to come on to the pitch, and when he is facing a corner kick. I've seen the look and the body language in people when they are about to get into a fight that they really, really want to avoid. He needs confidence back fast. And he needs it back in the form of a solid defense.
 
From Michel Vorm's column

[article=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2539380/The-Footballers-Football-Column-Michel-Vorm-David-De-Gea-best-goalkeeper-Premier-League.html#ixzz2qzYC06r3 ]At the moment I also rate Simon Mignolet very highly. He was with Sunderland and moved to a big club. Look at the way he performs. He made a mistake against Man City, and that is normal, but I would say he is the best this season. For me, the hardest part for him was Liverpool have a totally different way of playing.

I know what football is like under Brendan Rodgers and he wants the goalkeeper to be another defender. He has adapted so well to playing with his feet, making decisions. He is not the best goalkeeper with his feet but the things he has had to do he has done well. As a goalkeeper, he is very brave, he is not afraid.

His reactions in one-on-ones are so strong. One-on-one he is one of the best. And he is young.

In terms of raw talent, I would say David De Gea is best. He is improving all the time. Such a good shot stopper. The best shot stopper is probably Hart and maybe Asmir Begovic just behind him. On crosses, I would say Cech is best and in terms of distribution I'd say De Gea.

Psychology is so important for a goalkeeper. Sometimes you have nothing to do and then you have to be spot on. I think it is the hardest part. I would say Mignolet is best at that. He is very consistent. Sometimes Liverpool play well, have a lot of possession and then you see out of nothing he has to make saves.[/article]
 
I'm certainly not shouting "bring reina back" but i still think we had bigger priorities in the summer than replacing him . Ok obviously if he was waiting to jump ship to barca we couldn't hang around and wait .

Anyway i'm still a little frustrated at how the last window went , we haven't really got much for the money we spent (again). We've had a good season but imagine how good it could have been if we'd have got more . Anyway we're not allowed criticise Rodgers so i'll leave it there .
 
He is a great shot stopper and is rubbish with the ball at his feet, so he is right there.

You lot make it out like he's completely incompetent at distributing. At worst he's average I would say, and realistically I think it's a very underrated part of his game, he's improved by leaps and bounds since his debut for us. As far as retaining possession goes, I think he's more than worked out the growing pains, he's kicking rather accurately I would say, and he's created a couple of attacks for us by way of distribution. Can't ask a whole lot more.

I think it's easy to forget that despite there being loads of quality keepers out there, every side concedes goals, and typically someone's at fault. We should be doing better in defending absolutely, but there's a distinct improvement from the Reina years. Definitely felt over the last couple seasons that we would concede on every attack with Reina in goal, but with Mignolet we actually get bailed out every so often, and that's all you can ask with how limited our options are.
 
I'm certainly not shouting "bring reina back" but i still think we had bigger priorities in the summer than replacing him . Ok obviously if he was waiting to jump ship to barca we couldn't hang around and wait .

Anyway i'm still a little frustrated at how the last window went , we haven't really got much for the money we spent (again). We've had a good season but imagine how good it could have been if we'd have got more . Anyway we're not allowed criticise Rodgers so i'll leave it there .

Thats the thing though, he took the right piss there, add that on to his below par performances for at least 2 seasons and he had to go.
 
Thats the thing though, he took the right piss there, add that on to his below par performances for at least 2 seasons and he had to go.

But were his below par performances that bad ? It's true i can't remember a big save from him in a long time but i don't think there were too many howlers like some of mignolet's .

But anyway yeah it may have been a good time to replace him (could we not have sold him fully?) , time will tell if mignolet was the right person to do so with .
 
I remember seeing a stat where Reina let in about 40% (I'm exaggerating, but not as much as you'd think) of the shots he faced over the last couple of seasons. Not to mention he constantly got beat at his near post.

I think Mignolet is an improvement on the modern day Reina, but he needs to get his confidence back. Quickly.
 
Thats the thing though, he took the right piss there, add that on to his below par performances for at least 2 seasons and he had to go.

I'm still of the opinion that Reina is a far superior GK than Mignolet. I hope I'm proved wrong, but right now Mignolet is wank.
 
I think Reina WAS a far superior keeper, nowadays I think it's not as clear cut. Reina isn't as good a shot stopper now as he was whereas Mignolet is excellent at reaction saves.

Reina has better distribution, mignolet is the bangest of average at best.

Both have positives, both have negatives. Difference being Mignolet didn't FUCK US ABOUT FOR YEARS. OH I WANT TO GO ARSENAL, WELL UNITED ISNT OUT THE QUESTION, OH I WANT TO GO TO BARCA


FUCK THAT GUY
 
And Reina is crocked at the mo.

Mignolets young in keeper terms anyway, he just needs to stop coming for things that aren't gonna work out. Anticipation or whatever.

He's better than a lot of keepers in the prem, especially ones like Lloris
 
His distribution is actually improving. He's much quicker now in looking for an early throw or kick to start a new attack, so he's clearly listening and responding to coaching.
 
His distribution is actually improving. He's much quicker now in looking for an early throw or kick to start a new attack, so he's clearly listening and responding to coaching.

Glad you said so, I've mentioned it a couple of times but people still say it's dreadful.

Considering it was a massive problem when he first arrived I think the improvement is a dramatic one in a relatively short period of time.

If he can work similarly on commanding his area he'll be a fantastic keeper.

I do find it bizarre that we've gone for our first non 'sweeper keeper' in what feels like decades when we're actually now playing a system that suits one perfectly though!
 
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