Mignolet worries - part deux

[the count]

He could and should have claimed the big loopy cross in the six yard area that led to the second goal.
Obviously Skrtel fucked up for the goal too.
He is an excellent shot stopper but to be a top top keeper he needs a bit more.
I am unsure whether his reluctance to come out off his line is contributing to a shaky defense or the defense is the cause of of his hesitancy.

 

[Aidan O' Neill]

Bit of both, but he still has huge question marks over him.

 

[juniormember]

Reina's finished for us, of course, but I do miss his distribution and his willingness/eagerness to fight to get to a cross (which granted made him look like a clown on the odd occasion but most times helped us out when teams were punting long balls and crosses in the area).
Used to love seeing him catch a ball, sprinting to the edge of the area with powerful throws that would set us off on counter attacks.

I don't remember ever seeing Mignolet doing that, and the fact that he can only kick up to around the half way line is also doing my head in. These are things that he should be able to train and improve on.


I will say that some of his shot stopping has been brilliant this season and saved us many, many points earlier on. He's lost us points with more errors than you'd expect from a top goalie but on balance I think he's saved us more points.

 

[Leo]

I thought the goal was one million percent Skrtel's fault.
He should have booted the ball clear instead of playing a pointless stray pass up the line.
Agree that Mignolet needs to be more vocal and dominant.
He's a brilliant shot stopper which gives him the edge over Reina.
Who's struggled to get his fat arse down to save anything for the last four years.

 

[juniormember]

I thought the goal was one million percent Skrtel's fault.
He should have booted the ball clear instead of playing a pointless stray pass up the line.
Agree that Mignolet needs to be more vocal and dominant.
He's a brilliant shot stopper which gives him the edge over Reina.
Who's struggled to get his fat arse down to save anything for the last four years.

For his first three seasons Reina was one of the best in the world. Didn't he also win the golden glove those three years?
He was phenomenal. Great shot stopper, great positioning, great distribution, great athleticism.

 

[Leo]

For his first three seasons Reina was one of the best in the world. Didn't he also win the golden glove those three years?
He was phenomenal. Great shot stopper, great positioning, great distribution, great athleticism.

For the last 4 years I said.
He's probably my favorite Liverpool keeper ever but he was awful for us the last few seasons he was here.
He was getting beat on his near post on a weekly basis.
He needed a fresh challenge I reckon.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

His reluctance to come off his line is frustrating.

 

[juniormember]

For the last 4 years I said.
He's probably my favorite Liverpool keeper ever but he was awful for us the last few seasons he was here.
He was getting beat on his near post on a weekly basis.
He needed a fresh challenge I reckon.

Ah, right.
I think the Reina stagnation is the first and only footballing related thing that Rosco's ever gotten right.

 

[gene hughes]

I'm not convinced and he doesn't seem to be getting better.

 

[dee]

He's probably my favorite Liverpool keeper ever

Clemence

 

[Piedro]

He definately should have come and got that 2nd, huge blame on his part for me

 

[Gary25]

He definately should have come and got that 2nd, huge blame on his part for me

Exactly. He should have cleared all.

I was 100% convinced by Mignolet up until about 2 months ago. Now, he worries me.

 

[Piedro]

I'm really worried, his distribution is fucking shit and he never comes for anything.

And I can't spell definately

 

[dmishra]

Yeah, he's been very meh for about 2 months now. Worrying.

 

[Spaghetti Legs]

Mentioned it the other day but the club surely has to be looking at the goalkeeping coach situation, Achterberg came in in 2011, our goalkeeping during that time has been below par for the most part, that shouldn't be acceptable.

His kicking is a real joke, he rarely puts his laces through it when the option is just to get rid asap, seeing him side foot it up the middle of the pitch barely making the half way line is embarassing, he will need to improve a lot if he wants to be here long term, don't see why he can't.

 

[Halmeister]

I've always wondered about the decision of employing John Achterberg - a retired shit goalkeeper who did fuck all in his career - to coach our keepers. Recipe for disaster, surely?

 

[Spaghetti Legs]

I've always wondered about the decision of employing John Achterberg - a retired shit goalkeeper who did fuck all in his career - to coach our keepers. Recipe for disaster, surely?

Hard to argue with any of that.

Look at the very good job the manc coach (whoever he was?) has done to De Gea, did Moyes get rid of him aswell? still he done a very good job with him, sorted out his short comings pretty quick, this is the sort of job we should be expecting from our goalie coach, especially when our goalie has such obvious flaws.

 

[ILD]

He should command his box more. Flanagan should have roared and cleared the ball then. He was facing it. Skrtel didn't do himself any favours either.

 

[Ryan]

I thought the goal was one million percent Skrtel's fault.

What shit is this?

 

[Leo]

What shit is this?

The goal came from a throw in.
Skrtel played an awful pass up the line instead of clearing his lines which caused the throw in.
Could have been prevented quite easily.

 

[Halmeister]

You can't put the fact that we can't defend a simple throw in down to the reason we conceded the goal. I initially thought he could have done better with the clearance from the cross, but I've only seen it once. Many people have put that down to Mignolet so I'd have to see it again.

 

[ILD]

In the final phase of play, keeper should be claiming it or Flan should be blowing Skrtel out of it and clearing the danger as Flanagan is attacking the ball from a better angle to clear it.

 

[DHSC]

We should have stopped the cross from coming in too. Thought Coutinho and someone else on the touchline switched off momentarily.

 

[hamstrung_pigeon]

I think the fact that we're so poor aerially could also be attributed to the sparring partners our keepers and defenders get to work with during training. Mignolet mentioned that he gets plenty of shot stopping practice facing the likes of Sturridge and Suarez, but when it comes to high balls into the box, we really have a dearth of proper ball crossers. If we're using some machines to punt crosses during training, then they must need servicing, or they've been set to easymode and someone misplaced the manuals.

 

[Ryan]

The goal came from a throw in.
Skrtel played an awful pass up the line instead of clearing his lines which caused the throw in.
Could have been prevented quite easily.

Give it a rest Leo.

 

[Leo]

Give it a rest Leo.

Eh?
Yeah it's Flanagans fault or maybe Kenny's?
Is that better for you?

 

[RedZeppelin III]

Amazing shot stopper but very average at the rest and worryingly is very hesitant and looks like he's shitting it all the time .

He's exactly how my sunderland support mate said he'd be and why they weren't shattered to lose him for that money .

Question now is , are his good shot stopping reflex saves winning us more points than his mistakes are losing ? .

 

[Molbystwin]

I would take Reina back tbh...

either way our goalkeeping needs improving, goalies should stop shots they should also organise the defense and distribute well, Mignolet only does one of these 3 things well. At his best Reina did all 3 and IMHO even in his disinterested mode is a better keeper.

 

[Halmeister]

I would take Reina back tbh...

either way our goalkeeping needs improving, goalies should stop shots they should also organise the defense and distribute well, Mignolet only does one of these 3 things well. At his best Reina did all 3 and IMHO even in his disinterested mode is a better keeper.

Mignolet is a better keeper now than Reina is at the minute, and is probably likely to be in the future. Have you forgotten how he routinely got beat at his near post nearly every week? In any case, Mignolet has won us points this season. Reina has actively cost us them in the last 2 years, and there's no reason why that should change. He's hardly set the world alight at Napoli.

 

[Whirly]

I'd rather have a keeper with excellent shot stopping and average distribution than the other way around. Last couple weeks I feel Mignolet's kicking has been much better, as can be said for our entire back line.

Lets not forget what these guys we have starting in the back line were considered at the start of the season. Flanagan was an overpaid reserve who had no future at the club, Cissokho and Toure were both bench options in case we needed extra depth, and Skrtel was surplus to requirements with the additions of Ilori and Sakho. It's a bit absurd.