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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46664.msg1392242#msg1392242 date=1314830085]
I said at the beginning of these rumours that keeping / selling Meireles wouldn't make or break our season and I have to say my opinion hasn't changed one bit. He had one good spell at the turn of the year, won some bullshit award and people started proclaiming as some sort of legend. He doesn't really fit easily into our team, too soft for the middle of the park and too slow to play effectively out wide.

He's a good player and he'll do fine with Chelsea but I don't think we've lost much.
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Agreed. He's worth about what we got for him, would have preferred he went abroad too, but maybe his injury is something we're worried about too.

I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea fans begin to hate dealing with us...
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46664.msg1392242#msg1392242 date=1314830085]
I said at the beginning of these rumours that keeping / selling Meireles wouldn't make or break our season and I have to say my opinion hasn't changed one bit. He had one good spell at the turn of the year, won some bullshit award and people started proclaiming as some sort of legend. He doesn't really fit easily into our team, too soft for the middle of the park and too slow to play effectively out wide.

He's a good player and he'll do fine with Chelsea but I don't think we've lost much.
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good post, ross.
 
I have 3 memories of Raul

Chelsea goal

Wolves goal

Shitting out of a tackle at Old Trafford for the kings return and then Gerrard getting sent off.
 
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=46664.msg1392252#msg1392252 date=1314830323]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46664.msg1392242#msg1392242 date=1314830085]
I said at the beginning of these rumours that keeping / selling Meireles wouldn't make or break our season and I have to say my opinion hasn't changed one bit. He had one good spell at the turn of the year, won some bullshit award and people started proclaiming as some sort of legend. He doesn't really fit easily into our team, too soft for the middle of the park and too slow to play effectively out wide.

He's a good player and he'll do fine with Chelsea but I don't think we've lost much.
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Agreed. He's worth about what we got for him, would have preferred he went abroad too, but maybe his injury is something we're worried about too.

I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea fans begin to hate dealing with us...
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To be honest I thought we could have bent them over again. With Harry talking about 40m for Modric I thought we might gotten them to the 18-20m mark for Meireles.

Clearly we weren't that bothered about seeing him go.
 
I dont understand the ease of acceptance of this lads.
In two weeks we have gone from having
Spearing
Shelvey
Lucas
Adam
Henderson
Gerrard
Meireles
Cole
Aquilani

to

Spearing
Shelvey
Adam
Lucas
Gerrard

and we see that Henderson is a RM.

For 12m cash. Not a 12m player. 12m CASH.
Thats our midfield lads. Look at it. Its MEH.
 
TonyEvansTimes Tony Evans
Lot of people didn't want to see RM leave. But Dalglish did not fancy him. Didn't fit the system. Goes missing when gets tough. Good dealing
12 minutes ag
 
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=46664.msg1392212#msg1392212 date=1314829472]
I hope we got the rumoured £15M
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It needs to be at least £15m, we were not up for selling him by the fact he put in a written request, and he had a good first season in the prem.

regards
 
[quote author=the count link=topic=46664.msg1392264#msg1392264 date=1314830637]
TonyEvansTimes Tony Evans
Lot of people didn't want to see RM leave. But Dalglish did not fancy him. Didn't fit the system. Goes missing when gets tough. Good dealing
12 minutes ag
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can't argue with that, it's the absolute truth
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46664.msg1392260#msg1392260 date=1314830524]
I dont understand the ease of acceptance of this lads.
In two weeks we have gone from having
Spearing
Shelvey
Lucas
Adam
Henderson
Gerrard
Meireles
Cole
Aquilani

to

Spearing
Shelvey
Adam
Lucas
Gerrard

and we see that Henderson is a RM.

For 12m cash. Not a 12m player. 12m CASH.
Thats our midfield lads. Look at it. Its MEH.
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Aquilani hasn't been here in ages, Cole never worked out. The only real difference is Meireles.

In reality we've brought in Adam and Henderson, and let go Meireles and Cole this summer.
 
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=46664.msg1392228#msg1392228 date=1314829770]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46664.msg1392221#msg1392221 date=1314829670]
there is no way I wanted meireles on the wings
there is no way I wanted meireles as the support striker
you then have lucas and gerrard/adam
so where exactly was meireles going to play?
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The same place he will at Chelsea. The bench.
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Yep. He ain't gonna take Lampard or Mata's place.

From our point of view, We badly need Gerrard to come back fit and firing. I'm surprised we've let Aquilani and Meireles go in the same transfer window.
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Yes. And Joe Cole. Essentially, this summer we got rid of all possible Gerrard replacements except Jonjo Shelvey (and Henderson - but then who would play on the right?). Unless Gerrard comes back and stay healthy (a big, big question mark for me), we'll have a big void in attacking CM.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46664.msg1392260#msg1392260 date=1314830524]
I dont understand the ease of acceptance of this lads.
In two weeks we have gone from having
Spearing
Shelvey
Lucas
Adam
Henderson
Gerrard
Meireles
Cole
Aquilani

to

Spearing
Shelvey
Adam
Lucas
Gerrard

and we see that Henderson is a RM.

For 12m cash. Not a 12m player. 12m CASH.
Thats our midfield lads. Look at it. Its MEH.
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Very good point.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46664.msg1392268#msg1392268 date=1314830719]
[quote author=the count link=topic=46664.msg1392264#msg1392264 date=1314830637]
TonyEvansTimes Tony Evans
Lot of people didn't want to see RM leave. But Dalglish did not fancy him. Didn't fit the system. Goes missing when gets tough. Good dealing
12 minutes ag
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can't argue with that, it's the absolute truth
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Rubbish, fitted the system when he came on against Arsenal.
If that was true KD, what next for Carrol, Kenny didn't fancy him which is probably true.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46664.msg1392268#msg1392268 date=1314830719]
[quote author=the count link=topic=46664.msg1392264#msg1392264 date=1314830637]
TonyEvansTimes Tony Evans
Lot of people didn't want to see RM leave. But Dalglish did not fancy him. Didn't fit the system. Goes missing when gets tough. Good dealing
12 minutes ag
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can't argue with that, it's the absolute truth
[/quote]Its not TRUE is it? If it was TRUE he wouldnt have had to hand in a transfer request to get his wish to leave.
Did Joe cole or Aquilani or any other player who Kenny ACTUALLY didnt fancy have to hand in a transfer request?
 
[quote author=Shelvey link=topic=46664.msg1392254#msg1392254 date=1314830339]
Truth is Maxi can do everything that Meireles could do.
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I think you have hit the nail on the head there, except that Maxi is a more skillful goalscorer.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46664.msg1392268#msg1392268 date=1314830719]
[quote author=the count link=topic=46664.msg1392264#msg1392264 date=1314830637]
TonyEvansTimes Tony Evans
Lot of people didn't want to see RM leave. But Dalglish did not fancy him. Didn't fit the system. Goes missing when gets tough. Good dealing
12 minutes ag
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can't argue with that, it's the absolute truth
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Have to agree, good player that he is, he only really works in a midfield three and its clear where going with a 442 this year. He isn't good enough defensively to play as one of the two in the middle which means he has to play on the wing where he hasn't the pace.

Good payer but I can see why Kenny didn't think he fit. Maybe Bellamy is his direct replacement for the wing positions?
 
On point Oncy, totally agree. I was excited about the quality we had in depth that's what was so exciting about our squad, but that's no longer the case.

I'm massively gutted, I hate the dirty way Chelsea done it too, exactly the same as what they done with Torres, tap the player up, get in to submit an 11th hour transfer request and push the move through. Hate them
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46664.msg1392278#msg1392278 date=1314830943]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46664.msg1392268#msg1392268 date=1314830719]
[quote author=the count link=topic=46664.msg1392264#msg1392264 date=1314830637]
TonyEvansTimes Tony Evans
Lot of people didn't want to see RM leave. But Dalglish did not fancy him. Didn't fit the system. Goes missing when gets tough. Good dealing
12 minutes ag
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can't argue with that, it's the absolute truth
[/quote]Its not TRUE is it? If it was TRUE he wouldnt have had to hand in a transfer request to get his wish to leave.
Did Joe cole or Aquilani or any other player who Kenny ACTUALLY didnt fancy have to hand in a transfer request?
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As I suggested earlier, it could have just been PR to appease the fans. Nobody cared about the others.
 
So what happens when Chelsea decide they want Suarez? I'm sick of them unsettling our players ad poaching them.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=46664.msg1392260#msg1392260 date=1314830524]
I dont understand the ease of acceptance of this lads.
In two weeks we have gone from having
Spearing
Shelvey
Lucas
Adam
Henderson
Gerrard
Meireles
Cole
Aquilani

to

Spearing
Shelvey
Adam
Lucas
Gerrard

and we see that Henderson is a RM.

For 12m cash. Not a 12m player. 12m CASH.
Thats our midfield lads. Look at it. Its MEH.
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Glass quarter full there mate, Henderson is a CM, so we have 6 players to fit into 2 positions. Aqua and Cole were never going to make it, and would sit in the reserves on aboyu £150-180k per week.

Would have loved Meireles (dropped the ming quickly there) to have stayed, but 6 into 2 doesn't go, and 7 certainly doesn't. Really grew to love him, despite his lack of a true position and bottling out of tackles but overall I'm more gutted about the cunts having him playing for them, rather than him going abroad.
 
If chelseawant suarez he can hand in a transfer request and be sold for 50m+ like we did for torres.

Ming is a beast when off the ball, but on the ball sometimes he left a lot to be desired.

Plus he was a shithouse
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=46664.msg1392285#msg1392285 date=1314831148]
On point Oncy, totally agree. I was excited about the quality we had in depth that's what was so exciting about our squad, but that's no longer the case.

I'm massively gutted, I hate the dirty way Chelsea done it too, exactly the same as what they done with Torres, tap the player up, get in to submit an 11th hour transfer request and push the move through. Hate them
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if we are going 4-4-2 then we have more than enough depth in CM
 
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=46664.msg1392287#msg1392287 date=1314831231]
So what happens when Chelsea decide they want Suarez? I'm sick of them unsettling our players ad poaching them.
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We give Suarez the Modric treatment handed out by Spurs - 'NO' you can't have him. But if we don't make CL next year I have a feeling he will be let go coz other CL teams will coming knocking on our door.
 
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[quote author=Home and A Gay link=topic=46664.msg1392217#msg1392217 date=1314829555]
Maybe that finger he gave to Lucas at the Emrates had more meaning than first appeared.
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whats this? missed the arse match on holiday
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The celebration of the 2nd goal Raul gave Lucas the middle finger.
It was apparently a joke but makes me wonder now.
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he seemed to get on well with the others, ah well its not that big a deal losing him

thanks for the info
 
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