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[quote author=rage link=topic=36269.msg958577#msg958577 date=1254835800]
it is factually correct though.
you can't judge a manager for failing to win a european tournament we were banned from playing in.
souness record of 1 FA Cup is identical to rafa's record.
oh and i never wanted souness in charge of us.
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Liverpool's European ban ended in 1991, the year Souness became manager of Liverpool. Despite that fact you make a good point, Rage. How can Souness be blamed for not winning the European Cup when those bastards at FIFA wouldn't even let him have a try because his team finished 6th with 64 and 59 points respectively in his two full seasons in charge.
it is factually correct though.
you can't judge a manager for failing to win a european tournament we were banned from playing in.
souness record of 1 FA Cup is identical to rafa's record.
oh and i never wanted souness in charge of us.
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Liverpool's European ban ended in 1991, the year Souness became manager of Liverpool. Despite that fact you make a good point, Rage. How can Souness be blamed for not winning the European Cup when those bastards at FIFA wouldn't even let him have a try because his team finished 6th with 64 and 59 points respectively in his two full seasons in charge.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=36269.msg958646#msg958646 date=1254841745]
Err... weren't we banned until the 91/92 season? Souey was in charge until 94. I know he had the unfortunate issue of replacing an ageing team and missing out on Europe initially but anyway.
Factual and all that though, of course Rage is a 'proper' fan, goes the game and knows his history don't yer know!?
Only a brainless cunt would put Rafa on a par with Souness, given we've won the CL, the FA Cup, finished 2nd twice (in a far more competitive league), finished runner up in a CL final and a League Cup Final, and won the (not so worthy) Community Shield and Super Cup.
Rage is a bellend.
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To be precise, we finished 2nd once Mark.
Err... weren't we banned until the 91/92 season? Souey was in charge until 94. I know he had the unfortunate issue of replacing an ageing team and missing out on Europe initially but anyway.
Factual and all that though, of course Rage is a 'proper' fan, goes the game and knows his history don't yer know!?
Only a brainless cunt would put Rafa on a par with Souness, given we've won the CL, the FA Cup, finished 2nd twice (in a far more competitive league), finished runner up in a CL final and a League Cup Final, and won the (not so worthy) Community Shield and Super Cup.
Rage is a bellend.
[/quote]
To be precise, we finished 2nd once Mark.
[quote author=rage link=topic=36269.msg958657#msg958657 date=1254842282]
souness was shit, i'm not disputing that. my point really is even such a shit liverpool manager (the worst in my living memory) has to date as successful a domestic trophy room as rafa.
did souness manage us in europe? i really can't remember
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Wow, Traore has more Champions League Winners Medals than fat Ronaldo.
Go figure.
souness was shit, i'm not disputing that. my point really is even such a shit liverpool manager (the worst in my living memory) has to date as successful a domestic trophy room as rafa.
did souness manage us in europe? i really can't remember
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Wow, Traore has more Champions League Winners Medals than fat Ronaldo.
Go figure.
1991-1992
18.09.1991 6 - 1 Kuusysi Lahti Anfield UEFA Cup 1st round 1L
02.10.1991 0 - 1 Kuusysi Lahti Lahden Stadion UEFA Cup 1st round 2L
23.10.1991 0 - 2 Auxerre St. l'Abbé Desch. UEFA Cup 2nd round 1L
06.11.1991 3 - 0 Auxerre Anfield UEFA Cup 2nd round 2L
27.11.1991 2 - 0 Swarowski Tirol Tivoli UEFA Cup 3rd round 1L
11.12.1991 4 - 0 Swarowski Tirol Anfield UEFA Cup 3rd round 2L
04.03.1992 0 - 2 Genoa Stadio Luigi Fer. UEFA Cup 4th round 1L
18.03.1992 1 - 2 Genoa Anfield UEFA Cup 4th round 2L
1992-1993
16.09.1992 6 - 1 Apollon Limassol Anfield ECW Cup 1st round 1L
29.09.1992 2 - 1 Apollon Limassol Nikos Goumas St. ECW Cup 1st round 2L
22.10.1992 2 - 4 Spartak Moscow Central Lenin St. ECW Cup 2nd round 1L
04.11.1992 0 - 2 Spartak Moscow Anfield ECW Cup 2nd round 2L
18.09.1991 6 - 1 Kuusysi Lahti Anfield UEFA Cup 1st round 1L
02.10.1991 0 - 1 Kuusysi Lahti Lahden Stadion UEFA Cup 1st round 2L
23.10.1991 0 - 2 Auxerre St. l'Abbé Desch. UEFA Cup 2nd round 1L
06.11.1991 3 - 0 Auxerre Anfield UEFA Cup 2nd round 2L
27.11.1991 2 - 0 Swarowski Tirol Tivoli UEFA Cup 3rd round 1L
11.12.1991 4 - 0 Swarowski Tirol Anfield UEFA Cup 3rd round 2L
04.03.1992 0 - 2 Genoa Stadio Luigi Fer. UEFA Cup 4th round 1L
18.03.1992 1 - 2 Genoa Anfield UEFA Cup 4th round 2L
1992-1993
16.09.1992 6 - 1 Apollon Limassol Anfield ECW Cup 1st round 1L
29.09.1992 2 - 1 Apollon Limassol Nikos Goumas St. ECW Cup 1st round 2L
22.10.1992 2 - 4 Spartak Moscow Central Lenin St. ECW Cup 2nd round 1L
04.11.1992 0 - 2 Spartak Moscow Anfield ECW Cup 2nd round 2L
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=36269.msg958660#msg958660 date=1254842494]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=36269.msg958646#msg958646 date=1254841745]
Err... weren't we banned until the 91/92 season? Souey was in charge until 94. I know he had the unfortunate issue of replacing an ageing team and missing out on Europe initially but anyway.
Factual and all that though, of course Rage is a 'proper' fan, goes the game and knows his history don't yer know!?
Only a brainless cunt would put Rafa on a par with Souness, given we've won the CL, the FA Cup, finished 2nd twice (in a far more competitive league), finished runner up in a CL final and a League Cup Final, and won the (not so worthy) Community Shield and Super Cup.
Rage is a bellend.
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To be precise, we finished 2nd once Mark.
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To be even more precise, that was 1991 when Dalglish left in February with the team top of the league with three months to go.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=36269.msg958646#msg958646 date=1254841745]
Err... weren't we banned until the 91/92 season? Souey was in charge until 94. I know he had the unfortunate issue of replacing an ageing team and missing out on Europe initially but anyway.
Factual and all that though, of course Rage is a 'proper' fan, goes the game and knows his history don't yer know!?
Only a brainless cunt would put Rafa on a par with Souness, given we've won the CL, the FA Cup, finished 2nd twice (in a far more competitive league), finished runner up in a CL final and a League Cup Final, and won the (not so worthy) Community Shield and Super Cup.
Rage is a bellend.
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To be precise, we finished 2nd once Mark.
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To be even more precise, that was 1991 when Dalglish left in February with the team top of the league with three months to go.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36269.msg958606#msg958606 date=1254839574]
Larry 'Voltaire' Hagman thinks highly of him. 😉
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Nice one, that seems to mean a lot to you.
Larry 'Voltaire' Hagman thinks highly of him. 😉
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Nice one, that seems to mean a lot to you.
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=36269.msg958660#msg958660 date=1254842494]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=36269.msg958646#msg958646 date=1254841745]
Err... weren't we banned until the 91/92 season? Souey was in charge until 94. I know he had the unfortunate issue of replacing an ageing team and missing out on Europe initially but anyway.
Factual and all that though, of course Rage is a 'proper' fan, goes the game and knows his history don't yer know!?
Only a brainless cunt would put Rafa on a par with Souness, given we've won the CL, the FA Cup, finished 2nd twice (in a far more competitive league), finished runner up in a CL final and a League Cup Final, and won the (not so worthy) Community Shield and Super Cup.
Rage is a bellend.
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To be precise, we finished 2nd once Mark.
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phew! I was wondering when rafa managed a 2 top two finished in 5 years.
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=36269.msg958646#msg958646 date=1254841745]
Err... weren't we banned until the 91/92 season? Souey was in charge until 94. I know he had the unfortunate issue of replacing an ageing team and missing out on Europe initially but anyway.
Factual and all that though, of course Rage is a 'proper' fan, goes the game and knows his history don't yer know!?
Only a brainless cunt would put Rafa on a par with Souness, given we've won the CL, the FA Cup, finished 2nd twice (in a far more competitive league), finished runner up in a CL final and a League Cup Final, and won the (not so worthy) Community Shield and Super Cup.
Rage is a bellend.
[/quote]
To be precise, we finished 2nd once Mark.
[/quote]
phew! I was wondering when rafa managed a 2 top two finished in 5 years.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36269.msg958670#msg958670 date=1254842950]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=36269.msg958660#msg958660 date=1254842494]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=36269.msg958646#msg958646 date=1254841745]
Err... weren't we banned until the 91/92 season? Souey was in charge until 94. I know he had the unfortunate issue of replacing an ageing team and missing out on Europe initially but anyway.
Factual and all that though, of course Rage is a 'proper' fan, goes the game and knows his history don't yer know!?
Only a brainless cunt would put Rafa on a par with Souness, given we've won the CL, the FA Cup, finished 2nd twice (in a far more competitive league), finished runner up in a CL final and a League Cup Final, and won the (not so worthy) Community Shield and Super Cup.
Rage is a bellend.
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To be precise, we finished 2nd once Mark.
[/quote]
phew! I was wondering when rafa managed a 2 top two finished in 5 years.
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Ha, I was thinking of the season before last, apologies.
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=36269.msg958660#msg958660 date=1254842494]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=36269.msg958646#msg958646 date=1254841745]
Err... weren't we banned until the 91/92 season? Souey was in charge until 94. I know he had the unfortunate issue of replacing an ageing team and missing out on Europe initially but anyway.
Factual and all that though, of course Rage is a 'proper' fan, goes the game and knows his history don't yer know!?
Only a brainless cunt would put Rafa on a par with Souness, given we've won the CL, the FA Cup, finished 2nd twice (in a far more competitive league), finished runner up in a CL final and a League Cup Final, and won the (not so worthy) Community Shield and Super Cup.
Rage is a bellend.
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To be precise, we finished 2nd once Mark.
[/quote]
phew! I was wondering when rafa managed a 2 top two finished in 5 years.
[/quote]
Ha, I was thinking of the season before last, apologies.
one match would have turned a 'good' return into a 'fantastic' return for rafa.
I've obviously talking about the 2007 CL final. had we won that rafa's record would have read;
two CL titles and an FAC in 5 years. small margins...
I've obviously talking about the 2007 CL final. had we won that rafa's record would have read;
two CL titles and an FAC in 5 years. small margins...
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36269.msg958677#msg958677 date=1254843180]
one match would have turned a 'good' return into a 'fantastic' return for rafa.
I've obviously talking about the 2007 CL final. had we won that rafa's record would have read;
two CL titles and an FAC in 5 years. small margins...
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that's what happens when we start with zenden, play pennant, leave crouch off for most of the game and whilst i was no bellamy fan i thought he would have destroyed that geriatric defence with his pace.
in europe i really rate rafa but i think he got it wrong big time that night
one match would have turned a 'good' return into a 'fantastic' return for rafa.
I've obviously talking about the 2007 CL final. had we won that rafa's record would have read;
two CL titles and an FAC in 5 years. small margins...
[/quote]
that's what happens when we start with zenden, play pennant, leave crouch off for most of the game and whilst i was no bellamy fan i thought he would have destroyed that geriatric defence with his pace.
in europe i really rate rafa but i think he got it wrong big time that night
He can't remember - or even look up - the fact that Souness managed us for two seasons in Europe. he can't remember - or look up - the British quota system Souness had to cope with. Yet he claims to be able to judge all Liverpool managers in his 'living memory'. So I guess he's about 15. That would explain the inability to write - and think - like a grown-up (and all of the 'cock' references).
Rage is a big massive fuck off Whopper. Factual.
With extra cheese.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36269.msg958725#msg958725 date=1254846509]
With extra cheese.
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fries?
With extra cheese.
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fries?
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36269.msg958664#msg958664 date=1254842748] 06.11.1991 3 - 0 Auxerre Anfield UEFA Cup 2nd round 2L [/quote]
Forget your Milan 3-3's and Newcastle 4-3's, this was the greatest of them all.
Auxerre 91. My very own St. Etienne 77 or Inter 65.
Forget your Milan 3-3's and Newcastle 4-3's, this was the greatest of them all.
Auxerre 91. My very own St. Etienne 77 or Inter 65.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36269.msg958664#msg958664 date=1254842748]
1991-1992
18.09.1991 6 - 1 Kuusysi Lahti Anfield UEFA Cup 1st round 1L
02.10.1991 0 - 1 Kuusysi Lahti Lahden Stadion UEFA Cup 1st round 2L
23.10.1991 0 - 2 Auxerre St. l'Abbé Desch. UEFA Cup 2nd round 1L
06.11.1991 3 - 0 Auxerre Anfield UEFA Cup 2nd round 2L
27.11.1991 2 - 0 Swarowski Tirol Tivoli UEFA Cup 3rd round 1L
11.12.1991 4 - 0 Swarowski Tirol Anfield UEFA Cup 3rd round 2L
04.03.1992 0 - 2 Genoa Stadio Luigi Fer. UEFA Cup 4th round 1L
18.03.1992 1 - 2 Genoa Anfield UEFA Cup 4th round 2L
1992-1993
16.09.1992 6 - 1 Apollon Limassol Anfield ECW Cup 1st round 1L
29.09.1992 2 - 1 Apollon Limassol Nikos Goumas St. ECW Cup 1st round 2L
22.10.1992 2 - 4 Spartak Moscow Central Lenin St. ECW Cup 2nd round 1L
04.11.1992 0 - 2 Spartak Moscow Anfield ECW Cup 2nd round 2L
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I went to all of those home games and the away game in Auxerre. Do I get an endurance medal?
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=36269.msg958739#msg958739 date=1254847958]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36269.msg958664#msg958664 date=1254842748] 06.11.1991 3 - 0 Auxerre Anfield UEFA Cup 2nd round 2L [/quote]
Forget your Milan 3-3's and Newcastle 4-3's, this was the greatest of them all.
Auxerre 91. My very own St. Etienne 77 or Inter 65.
[/quote]
It was a great night and the noise from the 23,000 odd that was there was immense.
1991-1992
18.09.1991 6 - 1 Kuusysi Lahti Anfield UEFA Cup 1st round 1L
02.10.1991 0 - 1 Kuusysi Lahti Lahden Stadion UEFA Cup 1st round 2L
23.10.1991 0 - 2 Auxerre St. l'Abbé Desch. UEFA Cup 2nd round 1L
06.11.1991 3 - 0 Auxerre Anfield UEFA Cup 2nd round 2L
27.11.1991 2 - 0 Swarowski Tirol Tivoli UEFA Cup 3rd round 1L
11.12.1991 4 - 0 Swarowski Tirol Anfield UEFA Cup 3rd round 2L
04.03.1992 0 - 2 Genoa Stadio Luigi Fer. UEFA Cup 4th round 1L
18.03.1992 1 - 2 Genoa Anfield UEFA Cup 4th round 2L
1992-1993
16.09.1992 6 - 1 Apollon Limassol Anfield ECW Cup 1st round 1L
29.09.1992 2 - 1 Apollon Limassol Nikos Goumas St. ECW Cup 1st round 2L
22.10.1992 2 - 4 Spartak Moscow Central Lenin St. ECW Cup 2nd round 1L
04.11.1992 0 - 2 Spartak Moscow Anfield ECW Cup 2nd round 2L
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I went to all of those home games and the away game in Auxerre. Do I get an endurance medal?
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=36269.msg958739#msg958739 date=1254847958]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36269.msg958664#msg958664 date=1254842748] 06.11.1991 3 - 0 Auxerre Anfield UEFA Cup 2nd round 2L [/quote]
Forget your Milan 3-3's and Newcastle 4-3's, this was the greatest of them all.
Auxerre 91. My very own St. Etienne 77 or Inter 65.
[/quote]
It was a great night and the noise from the 23,000 odd that was there was immense.
[quote author=rage link=topic=36269.msg958685#msg958685 date=1254843474]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36269.msg958677#msg958677 date=1254843180]
one match would have turned a 'good' return into a 'fantastic' return for rafa.
I've obviously talking about the 2007 CL final. had we won that rafa's record would have read;
two CL titles and an FAC in 5 years. small margins...
[/quote]
that's what happens when we start with zenden, play pennant, leave crouch off for most of the game and whilst i was no bellamy fan i thought he would have destroyed that geriatric defence with his pace.
in europe i really rate rafa but i think he got it wrong big time that night
[/quote]
And yet people who really know about football have that game down as Pennant's best in a red shirt. Albeit there's not a lot of competition.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36269.msg958677#msg958677 date=1254843180]
one match would have turned a 'good' return into a 'fantastic' return for rafa.
I've obviously talking about the 2007 CL final. had we won that rafa's record would have read;
two CL titles and an FAC in 5 years. small margins...
[/quote]
that's what happens when we start with zenden, play pennant, leave crouch off for most of the game and whilst i was no bellamy fan i thought he would have destroyed that geriatric defence with his pace.
in europe i really rate rafa but i think he got it wrong big time that night
[/quote]
And yet people who really know about football have that game down as Pennant's best in a red shirt. Albeit there's not a lot of competition.
That night vs Auxerre was my first night on the Kop without my Dad. It was exhilarating. And I spent 3 hours in the players lounge afterwards courtesy of a pass in to meet my Dad and his pal George Sephton.
Best. Night. Ever.
Best. Night. Ever.
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=36269.msg958783#msg958783 date=1254856002]
That night vs Auxerre was my first night on the Kop without my Dad. It was exhilarating. And I spent 3 hours in the players lounge afterwards courtesy of a pass in to meet my Dad and his pal George Sephton.
Best. Night. Ever.
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I love George even though I've never met him. His voice is synonymous with Anfield for me.
That night vs Auxerre was my first night on the Kop without my Dad. It was exhilarating. And I spent 3 hours in the players lounge afterwards courtesy of a pass in to meet my Dad and his pal George Sephton.
Best. Night. Ever.
[/quote]
I love George even though I've never met him. His voice is synonymous with Anfield for me.
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=36269.msg958789#msg958789 date=1254857132]
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=36269.msg958783#msg958783 date=1254856002]
That night vs Auxerre was my first night on the Kop without my Dad. It was exhilarating. And I spent 3 hours in the players lounge afterwards courtesy of a pass in to meet my Dad and his pal George Sephton.
Best. Night. Ever.
[/quote]
I love George even though I've never met him. His voice is synonymous with Anfield for me.
[/quote]
Here's a MOTD 2 feature on him, if, like me, anyone missed it the other day (shout out to RAWK).
http://www.multiupload.com/6ZL9BQ3R6F
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=36269.msg958783#msg958783 date=1254856002]
That night vs Auxerre was my first night on the Kop without my Dad. It was exhilarating. And I spent 3 hours in the players lounge afterwards courtesy of a pass in to meet my Dad and his pal George Sephton.
Best. Night. Ever.
[/quote]
I love George even though I've never met him. His voice is synonymous with Anfield for me.
[/quote]
Here's a MOTD 2 feature on him, if, like me, anyone missed it the other day (shout out to RAWK).
http://www.multiupload.com/6ZL9BQ3R6F
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=36269.msg958762#msg958762 date=1254853389]
[quote author=rage link=topic=36269.msg958685#msg958685 date=1254843474]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36269.msg958677#msg958677 date=1254843180]
one match would have turned a 'good' return into a 'fantastic' return for rafa.
I've obviously talking about the 2007 CL final. had we won that rafa's record would have read;
two CL titles and an FAC in 5 years. small margins...
[/quote]
that's what happens when we start with zenden, play pennant, leave crouch off for most of the game and whilst i was no bellamy fan i thought he would have destroyed that geriatric defence with his pace.
in europe i really rate rafa but i think he got it wrong big time that night
[/quote]
And yet people who really know about football have that game down as Pennant's best in a red shirt. Albeit there's not a lot of competition.
[/quote]
really? no one i know considers that to have been pennant's best in a red shirt. from what i saw they let pennant have the ball as all he was capable of was that chipped float cross of his. the pennant mom that night is a myth
pennant's best game for us was against chelsea in the league where he took the piss out of cashly
[quote author=rage link=topic=36269.msg958685#msg958685 date=1254843474]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36269.msg958677#msg958677 date=1254843180]
one match would have turned a 'good' return into a 'fantastic' return for rafa.
I've obviously talking about the 2007 CL final. had we won that rafa's record would have read;
two CL titles and an FAC in 5 years. small margins...
[/quote]
that's what happens when we start with zenden, play pennant, leave crouch off for most of the game and whilst i was no bellamy fan i thought he would have destroyed that geriatric defence with his pace.
in europe i really rate rafa but i think he got it wrong big time that night
[/quote]
And yet people who really know about football have that game down as Pennant's best in a red shirt. Albeit there's not a lot of competition.
[/quote]
really? no one i know considers that to have been pennant's best in a red shirt. from what i saw they let pennant have the ball as all he was capable of was that chipped float cross of his. the pennant mom that night is a myth
pennant's best game for us was against chelsea in the league where he took the piss out of cashly
I actually agree.
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