Liverpool vs Spurs Match thread

[Kay Age El]

To be honest Kris, prior to this season I thought we dodged a bullet. I thought his attitude was poor at times and he didn't work hard enough, he seemed like a bit of a luxury who's main source of a return was from setpieces. This season though he seems to have found consistency and gets involved more in the overall play. He sums up Spurs this season, everything is coming together for them at the same time.

PS, I don't think he's in a different league to Lallana either, he's got a great touch and more of a direct return, but he's got plenty of flaws too and it's taken a while for him to get to this level. Sustaining it is another thing. He reminds me alot of the type of players Arsenal usually buy, the ones who are great for a few months of the season when the whole team is playing well, but usually goes missing when things aren't going so well, cf the likes of Nasri, Rosicky, etc.

Without knowing exactly what measures of success you are using as benchmark here I do find it slightly 6CM-opinionated and a little weird too and I really have to counter it with facts, so here goes:

Eriksen was voted Spurs Player of the Year 2014/2015, in his first full Season there.

Only Boyd from Burnley ran more miles than Eriksen in all of the Premiership the same Season. Eriksen pipped Henderson (4th) and everyone else running their socks off week in week out. That's actually the opposite of lazy if you ask me.

The poor attitude thing is something I've never heard before from anyone and it's way off the mark, so you must've him confused with Bender?

A little comparison between our creative outlet and Spurs' (without knowing how much you rate Coutinho I think this is quite relevant to prove my point)

Season 13/14

Eriksen / APP 9 / GOALS 4 /CHANCES CREATED 34
Coutinho / APP 14 / GOALS 2 / CHANCES CREATED 38

Season 14/15

Eriksen / APP 38 / GOALS 10 /CHANCES CREATED 83
Coutinho / APP 35 / GOALS 5 / CHANCES CREATED 58

Season 15/16

Eriksen / APP 29 / GOALS 6 /CHANCES CREATED 97
Coutinho / APP 21 / GOALS 7 / CHANCES CREATED 37
*All stats pulled from Squawka

For the record no-one in the Spurs squad come even close to his creative numbers why he is also mentioned as one of their their key players by many pundits - alongside Kane and Lloris in particular. These pundits are all British btw.

Btw, Lallana's stats are slightly worse than Coutinho's for Liverpool but not by that much actually which honestly surprised me a bit.

To sum up: Eriksen is a marathon-man, a fans favorite and by far the most creative outlet for Spurs more or less from day one at arrival - and he's also one of the best set piece takers in the world. Well, at least, that's what the stats tell us. And me.

 

[Mystic]

It's more that he's a bit of a shithouse who goes missing during the more physical games, he's easily bullied out of games. He's a very talented player, but you act like he's Gareth Bale Mark II.

 

[Kay Age El]

It's more that he's a bit of a shithouse who goes missing during the more physical games, he's easily bullied out of games. He's a very talented player, but you act like he's Gareth Bale Mark II.

He's nothing like Bale who's all about power and strength and taking players on. Eriksen almost never does that (and that is probably his biggest weakness).


And he has struggled in the most physical games and also in particular erratic games like the adrenaline-rush in the weekend.

That said I am not sure what point you are trying to make honestly, he's a flair player not a defensive midfielder and I was replying to some very specific claims about him. Read Mark's post then mine if that'll make more sense for you.

 

[cloggypop]

At Ajax, Eriksen had the highest stats for distance covered in Champions League.

https://www.quora.com/Which-player-has-the-largest-average-running-distance-per-match

There were no attitude problems. I'm not Danish and I've got no idea why we didn't buy him. We watched him loads, the price was extremely reasonable.

Our scouts seemed to decide he wasn't good enough. They did the same with Alderweireld. Not sure they were right really.

 

[Kay Age El]

At Ajax, Eriksen had the highest stats for distance covered in Champions League.

https://www.quora.com/Which-player-has-the-largest-average-running-distance-per-match

There were no attitude problems. I'm not Danish and I've got no idea why we didn't buy him. We watched him loads, the price was extremely reasonable.

Our scouts seemed to decide he wasn't good enough. They did the same with Alderweireld. Not sure they were right really.

I am still blaming Rodgers for that one, but I honestly don't know if that's fair or not. We were in the running and we backed out choosing Aspas and Alberto over him (it seemed) and the rest, as they say, is history.

 

[Judge Jules]

Rodgers made his share of mistakes in the market, but to me those have the look of stats-dictated transfer committee decisions about them.

 

[Kay Age El]

Rodgers made his share of mistakes in the market, but to me those have the look of stats-dictated transfer committee decisions about them.

Yeah, that's likely as well. Anyways we got Coutinho now and he is such a marvelous player that will only improve too.

 

[Hansern]

At Ajax, Eriksen had the highest stats for distance covered in Champions League.

https://www.quora.com/Which-player-has-the-largest-average-running-distance-per-match

There were no attitude problems. I'm not Danish and I've got no idea why we didn't buy him. We watched him loads, the price was extremely reasonable.

Our scouts seemed to decide he wasn't good enough. They did the same with Alderweireld. Not sure they were right really.

Not signing Eriksen for that fee was a poor decision. I'm not to fussed about Alderweireld.
We apparently did the same with Mane and decided he wasnt good enough.
Signed Markovic for twice the money and then sent him out on loan this season.
We've made some awful decisions in the transfer market.

 

[Modo]

Please don't go down the Eriksen route again. You were right just drop it.

 

[Buddha]

Not signing Eriksen for that fee was a poor decision. I'm not to fussed about Alderweireld.
We apparently did the same with Mane and decided he wasnt good enough.
Signed Markovic for twice the money and then sent him out on loan this season.
We've made some awful decisions in the transfer market.

I'd be fussed re Alderweireld. For the money he's been exceptional, an absolute rock in defence.

 

[keniget]

If we'd have signed Alderweireld he'd be another 7/10 (best case scenario) player that everyone would be happy enough to replace given the opportunity.

What we're seeing at Spurs (like Leicester) is a team that is greater than the sum of it's parts.

We like spending vast sums of money to put together teams that are worse than the sum of their parts.

 

[ILD]

Who, Macklemore? I knew it! Who could argue with lyrics like these:

I'm an Irishman
Leather weathered Irish skin
Beard orange as the sunset over the flag
In the night sky we fly it in
Pride for the life we fight to live
History, I write with it
Spit it with the dialect
And this is a celebration of course
The green, white, orange
And when they pulled up on that shore
First generation born
Toast to those that made it on a boat to New York
And when the English came the colonizer came
They filled up bottles of gasoline, turned 'em into balls of flame
And hurled 'em to protect what's ours
Don't touch these lucky charms
Whole bunch of Irish screaming "Fuck the London Guard"
I'm kidding not dissin' London, this bloody war
But go against the Irish and get a bloody jaw

Makes House of Pain's "Top Of The Mornin To Ya" look like "Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos"

I was on about Graham Norton being sound not Mack-le-more.

 

[Holle]

The Irish can't hate everyone Irish. I've not met anyone who doesn't like the fella who played Father Ted, for example. Or Macklemore.

Or Jedward.

 

[Kay Age El]

Or Jedward.

Which one?

 

[manwithnoname]

I think I'm more Irish than Macklemore. My parents are Irish. I'm from Liverpool. He's deffo American. Or "Irish American" as I believe they say now.

What the fuck is that? How Irish is that bellend really?

 

[Portly]

I've never heard of this Macklemore chap, and I really, really don't want to learn anything.

 

[manwithnoname]

I've never heard of this Macklemore chap, and I really, really don't want to learn anything.

Sorry Portly. I shall desist immediately. I don't know why I even started talking about him. Something about blind patriotism.

 

[Judge Jules]

Or Jedward.

You've not met anyone who doesn't like Jedward? I find that hard to believe, even in Austria.

 

[Judge Jules]

I spent six decades thinking my only connection with Ireland was having been born in Liverpool, but a cousin (in New Zealand) has just recently discovered a trickle of Irish blood on my dad's side of the family generations ago. Ah sure God love ya!

 

[Portly]

There was a 90-minute documentary on BBC TV the other night about William Butler Yeats, presented by Bob Geldof and featuring a wide range of celebs reading from the great man's poetry (including Bono and Liam Gallagher of course).

W.B. Yeats was the better type of Irishman although he did have some strange ideas.

 

[manwithnoname]

I spent six decades thinking my only connection with Ireland was having been born in Liverpool, but a cousin (in New Zealand) has just recently discovered a trickle of Irish blood on my dad's side of the family generations ago. Ah sure God love ya!

Given that Irishness is genetically hereditary and you can actually contract it as a kind of disease - a bit like AIDS or the zombie virus in The Walking Dead - a trickle is all that is required.

You are Irish.

 

[Athens]

I hate Geldof and Bono.

 

[Portly]

I've got Irish blood on my mother's side of the family. I guess the majority of English people do.

 

[ILD]

I think I'm more Irish than Macklemore. My parents are Irish. I'm from Liverpool. He's deffo American. Or "Irish American" as I believe they say now.

What the fuck is that? How Irish is that bellend really?

It's says on his wiki that his ethnicity is primarily Irish what ever that constitutes.

It surfaced a while back that George Clooney's ancestors were from a farm 20 mins from my family home.

http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/a...e-Clooneys-troubled-Irish-family-history.html

 

[Rosco]

I've never heard of this Macklemore chap, and I really, really don't want to learn anything.

He's the male Lady Gaga

 

[jexykrodic]

Many 'Irish' people have English ancestry. Migration throughout the centuries has seen to that. Although what this has to do with Liverpool vs Spurs match thread I'm unsure of.

 

[Holle]

You've not met anyone who doesn't like Jedward? I find that hard to believe, even in Austria.

We've got Conchita Wurst. Enough said.

 

[ILD]

Many 'Irish' people have English ancestry. Migration throughout the centuries has seen to that. Although what this has to do with Liverpool vs Spurs match thread I'm unsure of.

Harry Kane's father was from Galway.

EAT MY FACTS. ™ Gene Hughes.

 

[mark1975]

Sakho:

The French centre-back did not make a single tackle and won just 40 per cent of his duels according to Opta

 

[manwithnoname]

Sakho:

The French centre-back did not make a single tackle and won just 40 per cent of his duels according to Opta

When Spurs were talking about being disappointed with a draw, and dropping points etc, it wasn't really about the true reflection of the game - we had plenty of chances - or indeed how well they played - they didn't - it was more about the context of the title race, and also about Sakho.

They must be totally dismayed that such a titanically shit performance, riddled with errors, dreadful passing, comedy mistakes and all-round ineptitide wasn't more severely punished.

They'll never have 45 minutes of defending like that again before the end of the season.