Injuries have ruined the poor kids career haven't they? Gutted for him really.
Probably ruined Bajcetic's and Doak's too. Bradley thankfully came back stronger after it threatened to ruin his in all.
LFC Loan Watch 2023-24
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Injuries have ruined the poor kids career haven't they? Gutted for him really.
Probably ruined Bajcetic's and Doak's too. Bradley thankfully came back stronger after it threatened to ruin his in all.
Young loanee Owen Beck will return to Liverpool for rehabilitation after a big injury.
The Wales under-21 star will be out for at least one month during his loan spell at Dundee.
As a result, he will be going back to the club's Melwood training facility for treatment.
Dundee boss Tony Docherty revealed, “Owen is looking at a minimum of four to six weeks on the sidelines.
“We have been monitoring and managing the situation with his groin and he'll now go for a scan on it. With Liverpool being his parent club they have a big input into that and, of course, he'll get the best of treatment.
“He will go down there for that, certainly for this period because he's their player and they want to look at it themselves."
The Wales under-21 star will be out for at least one month during his loan spell at Dundee.
As a result, he will be going back to the club's Melwood training facility for treatment.
Dundee boss Tony Docherty revealed, “Owen is looking at a minimum of four to six weeks on the sidelines.
“We have been monitoring and managing the situation with his groin and he'll now go for a scan on it. With Liverpool being his parent club they have a big input into that and, of course, he'll get the best of treatment.
“He will go down there for that, certainly for this period because he's their player and they want to look at it themselves."
Liverpool loanee Marcelo Pitaluga is not enjoying his current loan spell away from the club.
The Brazilian is at St Patrick's Athletic, where he has been dropped from a starting spot.
Athletic manager Jon Daly has not been too impressed by the performances put in by Pitaluga.
He stated this weekend: “You've to understand you play on merit, and if you're not performing or not playing well, you don't play regardless of where you've come from."
Morton ran and dribbled. WOW! The lad might have a future after all
Why loan him? Sell or keep
2 very nice finishes from Fabio today. Outside chance still of making the play offs, 2 places still up for grabs but it’ll be very difficult given how many teams can still make it.
SVDB another very solid performance it would seem, another clean sheet and they’ve now made it an interesting relegation battle.
SVDB another very solid performance it would seem, another clean sheet and they’ve now made it an interesting relegation battle.
Another solid display from him tonight, winning 10 of his 14 duels. We talk about Quansah saving the club millions, Sepp could yet save us a few more. Mainz in the form side in the bottom half and now out of the relegation/relegation play off position on GD.
What's crazy as well is they have the best defensive record outside the top 6 clubs in the Bundesliga.
What's crazy as well is they have the best defensive record outside the top 6 clubs in the Bundesliga.
Another solid display from him tonight, winning 10 of his 14 duels. We talk about Quansah saving the club millions, Sepp could yet save us a few more. Mainz in the form side in the bottom half and now out of the relegation/relegation play off position on GD.
What's crazy as well is they have the best defensive record outside the top 6 clubs in the Bundesliga.
I don't know if he'll save us millions in terms of playing for us next season. But he's definitely a saleable asset.
Probably depends a lot on who manages us. Don't Mainz play with a back 3? He could be in with a shout then.
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On the day Liverpool imploded at home to Atalanta, losing 3-0 at Anfield to begin their exit from the Europa League, Fabio Carvalho was helping to make news of a different kind 100 or so miles away.
The 21-year-old was among hundreds of drivers caught in gridlocked traffic in Hull and, with a BBC TV reporter unaware of who he was asking for comment, a smiling Carvalho wound down his window and offered his take on the bumper-to-bumper chaos.
“It’s a mess, that’s all I have to say,” he said (48 seconds into the clip below).
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A loan with Hull City, though, is proving anything but. Carvalho — dubbed “the lad from Look North” by Hull’s social media channels on the back of his unexpected TV appearance — has found himself a happy temporary home with the Championship club and is flourishing away from the Liverpool spotlight.
Carvalho has seven goals in his last 11 games and the only frustration — for club and player — is that this season is running out of road. Saturday’s 0-0 draw at Watford left them six points adrift of the Championship play-offs before facing Coventry City in their game in hand tomorrow.
Carvalho, nevertheless, has salvaged his own season in East Yorkshire. Its first half had been close to a write-off when he was largely overlooked during an unhappy spell at RB Leipzig in Germany, but the termination of one loan has allowed another, far more productive one to flower.
The form shown with Hull in the past two months has been close to the level that earned him a £5million ($6.2m) move from Fulham to Liverpool as a teenager two years ago.
There were few, if any, more talented players than Carvalho in the Championship back then, the precocious star of a Fulham team that cantered to the title. “You know how I love the boy,” said his Fulham manager and fellow Portuguese Marco Silva. “He has a brilliant career in front of him.”
That has not always looked a certainty at Anfield, but time spent with Hull has brought reminders of his talent before a summer when he will celebrate his 22nd birthday. The big question is: what comes next?
Should Carvalho require a character reference to place in front of his next manager, either when returning to Liverpool or moving elsewhere, Liam Rosenior will gladly head up the queue. Hull City’s head coach pushed hard for the January move and has not been disappointed.
Rosenior found Carvalho cleaning his own boots in a sink at the club’s training ground one afternoon last month, saving the club’s kit man a job.
“He’s just so humble and he’s going to have a great career because he’s got the right mentality,” Rosenior said. “He wants to work. I have to drag him off the training pitch every day.”
Carvalho has also been popular with team-mates. He is said to have been engaged, likeable and polite around a dressing room still holding promotion hopes. Motivations have never been questioned. He has never come across as a loanee going through the motions at a level most would consider beneath his ability.
There was a sense that Carvalho did not do himself justice in his first few weeks at Hull when his match fitness levels were lacking after only three starts in five months with Leipzig, but the improvements have been noticeable.
Carvalho was excellent in a 2-1 win away to Southampton in mid-February and followed that up with more goals against promotion rivals West Bromwich Albion, Leicester City and Leeds United.
There were two more goals in a 3-1 win away to Cardiff City and another in a comfortable home victory over Queens Park Rangers 10 days ago. There have been clever, cute finishes and rasping drives, adding the gloss to increasingly influential performances. Only five players (Josh Sargent, Ellis Simms, Che Adams, Sammie Szmodics and Jamie Vardy) have scored more Championship goals since Carvalho made his Hull debut against Norwich on January 12.
Most Championship goals since Jan 12
Josh Sargent 11
Ellis Simms 10
Che Adams 10
Sammie Szmodics 9
Jamie Vardy 9
Fabio Carvalho 8
Saturday’s goalless draw away at Watford showcased Carvalho’s quick feet again, but the early penalty he won could not be converted by Turkey international Ozan Tufan.
Carvalho has been given a licence to express himself by Rosenior, typically playing as a central No 10 with the freedom to roam. Hull have tended to play without a recognised centre-forward in the absence of Manchester City loanee Liam Delap, another player borrowed from the Premier League, with Carvalho and Tufan filling the void in fluid roles.
It was part of a vision sold to Carvalho by Hull in early January. Owner Acun Ilicali and vice chairman Tan Kesler both held Zoom calls in a bid to convince the player to join, as did Rosenior, who mapped out where Carvalho would operate and how he could develop. The pair have both said they “clicked” since their first meeting.
Calls also came from Jean Michael Seri, a former team-mate of Carvalho at Fulham, and Tyler Morton, another youngster loaned from Liverpool. “He’s fantastic, I love Fab,” Morton told The Athletic in January. “Not only as a player but as a person.”
Ilicali suggested Carvalho eventually opted for Hull ahead of offers from Premier League clubs and rivals at the top of the Championship. A social media post from Hull, depicting Carvalho as a contestant on Blind Date, suggested both Leeds United and Southampton were among the clubs eager to secure his services.
Carvalho did not come cheap and the deal, including a loan fee and wages, will exceed £500,000. Hull have already suggested they would be interested in turning the loan into a permanent transfer this summer, but committing to a Championship project is unlikely to appeal to the player. Hull’s only chance of keeping Carvalho, you suspect, would be an improbable promotion.
There will be no rush to decide on the next step for a youngster with time on his side. The summer exit from Liverpool of Jurgen Klopp brings the promise of fresh starts across the Anfield squad and the likelihood is that Carvalho will be given opportunities during pre-season under a new head coach. Clean slates all round, a stage to press claims to build on the 21 appearances he made last season.
There are three more years remaining on a contract signed in 2022, but the competition for places back at Anfield remains fierce. Another loan, perhaps to the continent or a Premier League club, might be considered the most logical next step.
Carvalho’s stock, though, is back on the rise.
Currently trailing 1-0 in the Austria Cup final
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Jaros on course for a league and cup double
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Dutch manager....kid is gonna get a chance
I thought there were a few stadiums in there that looked odd and were definitely not in the Championship and then remembered he had 6 months at Leipzig.
Still question over a 90min game how often he finds himself involved and how often he goes into hiding but no doubt he has talent.
You sure?
I saw one report that suggested his weaknesses are ball progressing and passing. Additionally he has a habit of hitting a lot of long passes - that would suggest he isn’t a good fit for Slotball.
We’re going back to the good old days of looking for “ball playing centre backs”.
I’m all for giving the kid a chance - that’s doesn’t mean he’s going to make it.
Yeah, the Dutch are famous for never being harsh toward their own 😉
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With Matip leaving there's a spot open.
And they're also famous for bringing many of their own...
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If that’s so, we’ll soon turn into a club version of the Dutch national team. I think Klopp bought more Dutch players than players from any other country, so he started it…
It happened to Barca with Van Gaal.
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