Did you see the U19 Euro's last summer? If not you probably haven't seen him play in the middle.
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AHAHAHAHA!!
Let's just kill this thread now. It's an embarrassment. I started it about 3 months ago on a wind up with my evertonian mate! Fucking die die die!
Or his first year, when he largely played through the middle. There's a few good youtube compilations showing his skillz in the middle with the youth team.
I think he has unlocked defences on quite a few occasions with nice passing. He's not been dribbling past people like Sterling and gets less attention, and I agree, he hasn't always stamped his presence on matches, but he is showing signs of the player he will be; ie. a brilliant one.
He needs to work on his shooting though.
He needs to work on his shooting though.
Suso is the real deal. He's not only got all that Doc mentions but that rare ability to "glide" past players in tight spaces. He's a bone fide creative fulcrum somewhat dependent on the movement of others around him - if it's good he has the intuitive skills to thread a pass others wouldn't see.
Problem is, he's largely stuck out on the wing with only Suarez (marked by 2/3 players and often pulling to the other flank) and the other winger level with him (but miles away). We've been playing a deep midfield with no-one (or two) making it regularly into the final third and either making a clever run or some space for Suso to work in.
Stick Suso into the central attacking midfield role (instead of Allen/Henderson/Shelvey) and encourage Suarez/Sturridge/Sterling to act as a fluid 3 and I guarantee you'll see the best of the lad. Encourage one of the 2 sitting midfielders to break forward every once in a while, even better. I'm convinced that given a run of games there (which he hasn't ever had in the senior side), he'll come into his own at a very young age.
There's no doubt Suso's plenty of improvement to make (shooting, stamina) but it amazes me that Shelvey gets a chance in the attacking central midfield position in front of this lad, despite a string of woeful performances and missed chances. Perhaps, despite all I've said Suso is still more versatile (given his touch/skill on the ball) than Shelvey to play the wide role (could you imagine Shelvey out there?) and suffers for it.
I've no doubt that this lad will make it given the chance here and prove a world-beater, else he'll be off to Barcelona at some point in his career.
Problem is, he's largely stuck out on the wing with only Suarez (marked by 2/3 players and often pulling to the other flank) and the other winger level with him (but miles away). We've been playing a deep midfield with no-one (or two) making it regularly into the final third and either making a clever run or some space for Suso to work in.
Stick Suso into the central attacking midfield role (instead of Allen/Henderson/Shelvey) and encourage Suarez/Sturridge/Sterling to act as a fluid 3 and I guarantee you'll see the best of the lad. Encourage one of the 2 sitting midfielders to break forward every once in a while, even better. I'm convinced that given a run of games there (which he hasn't ever had in the senior side), he'll come into his own at a very young age.
There's no doubt Suso's plenty of improvement to make (shooting, stamina) but it amazes me that Shelvey gets a chance in the attacking central midfield position in front of this lad, despite a string of woeful performances and missed chances. Perhaps, despite all I've said Suso is still more versatile (given his touch/skill on the ball) than Shelvey to play the wide role (could you imagine Shelvey out there?) and suffers for it.
I've no doubt that this lad will make it given the chance here and prove a world-beater, else he'll be off to Barcelona at some point in his career.
He did create the 2nd goal against West Brom in the league cup this season.
He didn't provide the final ball but he semi-assisted the goal.
Oh, and he was playing in the middle in that game.
Great post.
I'll never understand why people want to bury decent posts on page 17 of a thread their post has nothing to do with.
It's as bad ad Irishred doing an excellent bit if research an plopping a good post on the end of Luis Suarez thread where it gets one reply because nobody bothers checking older threads.
People want to read and discuss interesting stuff, lets make it easier to find it by starting new threads - with proper titles rather than bunging everything into old threads.
It's as bad ad Irishred doing an excellent bit if research an plopping a good post on the end of Luis Suarez thread where it gets one reply because nobody bothers checking older threads.
People want to read and discuss interesting stuff, lets make it easier to find it by starting new threads - with proper titles rather than bunging everything into old threads.
He also has a semi assist for his corner against Chelsea.
Actually I agree.
I don't. Threads have a habit of developing their own "thread" which sometimes takes it somewhat off topic (though one can still trace back to the topic at hand).
If in talking about Allen we go onto discussing his position in the side and other options for that role (contra to Allen) I've no problem. It's kind of like real conversation and dialogue, gaps have to be left to allow new things in with the hope that it will connect with the topic at hand. If you can tolerate the not-knowing of where a conversation/thread is going it can surprise you. Granted it's more risky than insisting that everything said/posted is related directly to the agreed topic (giving a predictable pattern), but it makes for a more spacious and interesting (frayed, multi-coloured) thread in my eyes.
Agree with Buddha. Do we want a debating society or do we want a lively pub conversation lubricated by the odd pint of the foaming ale? The latter's what I come here for.
He/she could always search under the term "Suso"
There is no lively conversation when people keep putting off topic things at the end of threads, or when the keep adding new topics onto old threads.
See for example the one reply generated by Irishreds good post on Luis, compared to the 70 odd my lazy 'Louis moves out wide thread. See Buddhad one reply in this thread, to the handful the new thread already had.
The level if discussions has dropped massively since people stopped starting new threads for topics.
Nobody should need the search function
Suso is fucking great.
He'll turn into a wonderful player, I'm sure of it.
He's just got to get a little stronger on the ball, regardless of whether he can glide past players or not (even Sterling's stronger when shielding the ball at the moment) and get even more used to the idea of working with less time on the ball than in reserves or u19 football on the continent.
He really has the talent to make it. Hope Rodgers gets the best out of him. He's the potential creative midfielder we're crying out for.
He'll turn into a wonderful player, I'm sure of it.
He's just got to get a little stronger on the ball, regardless of whether he can glide past players or not (even Sterling's stronger when shielding the ball at the moment) and get even more used to the idea of working with less time on the ball than in reserves or u19 football on the continent.
He really has the talent to make it. Hope Rodgers gets the best out of him. He's the potential creative midfielder we're crying out for.
Ross, what's your opinion on Benitez?
Ross, were we really in trouble with our interest payments in the G&H era?
Mike, I know the Chinese will eat anything but that's going a bit far.
FYI, beef steaks are not Chinese cuisines but we adapt...
I'll take your word for it, Mike, but our local Chinese takeaway includes fillet steak among the various meats on the menu!
Incidentally I gather human flesh is more like pork. Not that I've (knowingly) had any, you understand.
Incidentally I gather human flesh is more like pork. Not that I've (knowingly) had any, you understand.
He really hasn't. The odd flash of quality isn't exactly 'influencing games'
And you'd be incorrect. He's whipped in great crosses and threaded through nice passes. More than Allen had shown in his 3 month stint of being average.
Lucas and Allen together doesn't work
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