from that alone i don't see what the problem is. if there was more said than fair enough, if not then whats the big deal its hardly damaging.
Andy Carroll In Danger Yo !
- Thread starter themn
- Start date
- Latest activity Latest activity:
- Status
Lol, fucking exactly.
So what if Sami does or doesnt like Carroll? Sami is a Liverpool legend but his opinions on current Liverpool players has little or no relevance.
Haha you guys are like the fucking daily mirror. Talk about taking what Sami said, and completely twisting it out of context.
For a start, Carroll and Suarez are two different types of player. Carroll is a poacher (well, at least when things are going right for him) and Suarez is a complete livewire that scares defenders shitless. Any defender would say the same thing as Sami said. It doesn't necessarily mean he was belittling Carroll, and it certainly doesn't mean that he thinks Carroll is shite.
For a start, Carroll and Suarez are two different types of player. Carroll is a poacher (well, at least when things are going right for him) and Suarez is a complete livewire that scares defenders shitless. Any defender would say the same thing as Sami said. It doesn't necessarily mean he was belittling Carroll, and it certainly doesn't mean that he thinks Carroll is shite.
An ex-player has an opinion on a current player. If this could dent Carroll's confidence, he'd never have played for one of the best clubs and his country.
R
RedZeppelin III
Guest
I mentioned similar to what Sami is saying before , that i reckon most centre backs are more than happy going up against Carroll . Most can handle the physical side , it's forwards with movement and pace who drag them all over the shop that worry them .
come on andy , you know you're up for some jellied eels and mash .
come on andy , you know you're up for some jellied eels and mash .
David Sullivan says West Ham United had agreed a deal with Liverpool for Andy Carroll, but the striker turned down the chance to be the focal point of Sam Allardyce's side.
Carroll's future at Liverpool has been uncertain following the appointment of Brendan Rodgers as manager and he has been linked with several rival Premier League clubs.
West Ham were among those to show an interest and a season-long loan deal with a view to a permanent £17million transfer had been lined up by the promoted club.
Sullivan says the proposed deal was 'terribly expensive' for the Hammers, but he was prepared to back Allardyce, who wanted Wolves winger Matt Jarvis to supply the crosses for Carroll.
Perfect
"I can only talk about this because it has been put in the public domain already," co-owner Sullivan told theDaily Mirror. "My manager wanted Andy Carroll, so we backed him.
"Andy was the perfect player for him and the style of football we play.
"We play a lot of high balls, a lot of crosses - quite exciting football, not just humping it but clever crossing - and Sam wanted Jarvis to supply the crosses because he is a fantastic crosser.
"We had a deal in place with Liverpool to borrow the player which automatically became a purchase if we stayed up.
"We hoped, as he had the same agent as our manager - a man we had done a lot of business with - and he was very friendly with Kevin Nolan, our captain, that Andy would want to come.
"It was a terribly expensive deal with the loan fee and with his wages, which were enormous - too much for a club like ours. But, as the manager really wanted him, we were prepared to pay it.
"But he really wants to stay at Liverpool. He believes that he will get back into the side by his performances - coming off the bench or for the reserves. He believes the manager will have to put him back in the side. But it's wrong to discuss what is in his mind. Only he knows that."
The England international is reported to favour a return to former club Newcastle United, but Sullivan doubts Carroll will head back to St James' Park.
He added: "We were paying all of his wages and a huge loan fee. Newcastle didn't even want to pay all of his wages.
"This is what we are led to believe. So Liverpool were not prepared to let him go to Newcastle. But it may all change. Who knows?"
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11685/7990335?
Carroll's future at Liverpool has been uncertain following the appointment of Brendan Rodgers as manager and he has been linked with several rival Premier League clubs.
West Ham were among those to show an interest and a season-long loan deal with a view to a permanent £17million transfer had been lined up by the promoted club.
Sullivan says the proposed deal was 'terribly expensive' for the Hammers, but he was prepared to back Allardyce, who wanted Wolves winger Matt Jarvis to supply the crosses for Carroll.
Perfect
"I can only talk about this because it has been put in the public domain already," co-owner Sullivan told theDaily Mirror. "My manager wanted Andy Carroll, so we backed him.
"Andy was the perfect player for him and the style of football we play.
"We play a lot of high balls, a lot of crosses - quite exciting football, not just humping it but clever crossing - and Sam wanted Jarvis to supply the crosses because he is a fantastic crosser.
"We had a deal in place with Liverpool to borrow the player which automatically became a purchase if we stayed up.
"We hoped, as he had the same agent as our manager - a man we had done a lot of business with - and he was very friendly with Kevin Nolan, our captain, that Andy would want to come.
"It was a terribly expensive deal with the loan fee and with his wages, which were enormous - too much for a club like ours. But, as the manager really wanted him, we were prepared to pay it.
"But he really wants to stay at Liverpool. He believes that he will get back into the side by his performances - coming off the bench or for the reserves. He believes the manager will have to put him back in the side. But it's wrong to discuss what is in his mind. Only he knows that."
The England international is reported to favour a return to former club Newcastle United, but Sullivan doubts Carroll will head back to St James' Park.
He added: "We were paying all of his wages and a huge loan fee. Newcastle didn't even want to pay all of his wages.
"This is what we are led to believe. So Liverpool were not prepared to let him go to Newcastle. But it may all change. Who knows?"
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11685/7990335?
I fucking hate both sullivan & gold.
If foreign owners did the shit they did they'd have been destroyed by the press.
If foreign owners did the shit they did they'd have been destroyed by the press.
I think David Sullivan's obviously just speculating on some slightly ambiguous comments Brendan Rodgers made about Carroll there. It's clear from the agreement we had in place to sell him that there's no way we're actually looking to sell him.
It's emotional times for me Mark, to see our dear lil club growing up in front of our very own eyes ... **wipes a tear from his eye**
I still think there's a few dickheads at the top making the wrong noises but yeah, hopefully this is where we get our shit together and start to think of the future in terms of playing staff and working 'well' within our means.
The real shit starts on Saturday though.
The real shit starts on Saturday though.
So true Fox. Id throw Dave Whelan in there as well, Chairmen have no business yapping off to sky sports news every week but the englisg lads take the piss sometimes.
'we play exciting football, not just humping it but clever crossing'
Beat me to it Skully. Priceless.
'West Ham have played 76 expertly placed long clever crosses to their forward so far this game, & finally managed to keep it in play on the 76th attempt to score, making it 4-1 to Liverpool. Great tactics from Big Sam there'
Brendan Rodgers insists Daniel Agger will stay at Liverpool, but can't give the same assurances over Andy Carroll. Premier League champions Manchester City have been linked with a move for Agger but the Reds boss believes the defender's future lies at Anfield. "For me there has been no big change," Rodgers said. "The first point is we don't want to sell him. "Secondly, I believe he will be a player who will thrive in this way of working and thirdly he doesn't want to leave - which is a great help as well. "He is a top player and I want to keep him here. Over the last couple of months we have been able to sell the project and vision to a number of senior players. "They are very happy to move forward with it and I would expect Daniel to be the same" On Carroll, who has been linked with Newcastle and West Ham, Rodgers added: "He knows where he stands. He is an important part of our group and that is how I see it at the moment. "If you are a team that puts crosses in and are firing them in from all angles he is a great player in the box, but if you play a different style it is that much more difficult. "Most managers have a way of playing and a Plan A in terms of the way they want to play. I will always try to make Plan A better before I go to Plan B."
i thought you said it was unfair for people to say he can't play this system, brendan?
From Sky.
West Ham United manager Sam Allardyce appears to have given up the pursuit of signing Andy Carroll after claiming a deal was never agreed with Liverpool for the striker.
The Upton Park club's co-chairman, David Sullivan,had on Wednesday announced England international Carroll had snubbed a move to London.
But ahead of Saturday's Premier League season-opener against Aston Villa,Allardyce insists no £17million fee had ever been agreed with Liverpool.
Anfield boss Brendan Rodgers is thought to be prepared to sell Carroll, who was signed by Kenny Dalglishfor £35m in January 2011, but the club want as much money as possible.
And Allardyce seems to think West Ham's interest is dead in the water, as he said: "We never agreed with Liverpool any deal to be able to speak to Andy Carroll to see if he would join us.
"Whatever deal we put forward to Liverpool was not agreed to by Liverpool.
"He would have been a massive signing for us and, like everything else, when you see an opportunity you try to go for it.
"Then you get onto negotiations and once that is exhausted you move on, which was a lot sooner than people actually talked about in the media.
"The negotiations were over in a couple of weeks or so regarding whether Andy was or wasn't going to come to West Ham."
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
