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Weekend Games Aug 30th

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At reasonable fees too for the most part. Fabregas, Costa, and Filipe Luis all signed at really reasonable numbers.


yeah i guess we're still a bit behind them in the quality of player we can attract plus then we can't compete with the wages or the london factor .
 
hopefully everton defend like this against us whenever we play . ridiculous .
 
yeah i guess we're still a bit behind them in the quality of player we can attract plus then we can't compete with the wages or the london factor .

Whirly keeps banging the same drum, that we could have got these players. So could City, Spurs, United and Arsenal.
 
Everton defense is poor - (then again, so is ours!)
Chelsea defense seems a wee bit overrated ...

I fucking hate Diego Costa. He's a cunt.
 
Everton defense is poor - (then again, so is ours!)
Chelsea defense seems a wee bit overrated ...

I fucking hate Diego Costa. He's a cunt.

If he had come to us last season we would be defending our title by now.
 
I really like Naismith, he runs non-stop and always makes right decisions with the ball.

Eto'o looked fit and dangerous. Not bad for a 45-year-old.

Fabregas can play perfectly weighted through-balls in his sleep. But he also gave the ball away much more often than a world-class playmaker should. His face also looks surprisingly old. Might be on the decline already.

Besic's debut touch is an instant cult classic. You can't possibly top that.

Unfortunately Mourinho and Diego Costa look like they are made for each other.

Everton will be a fun team to watch this year.
 
OK - we had a flop thread last season and I went with Ozil. This season I'm going to say .... Costa. He just looks so over-rated, got lucky with both his goals but faffed around, doesn't look fast and doesn't look to have a great touch either. So, he's got a 4 goals start on my prediction. Let's see.
 
Whirly keeps banging the same drum, that we could have got these players. So could City, Spurs, United and Arsenal.


Yes.

We could have and should have. Like I keep saying, which nobody seems to be disagreeing with, this is the one transfer window where we've had the financial resources available to compete and beat just about any offer on the market.

The fact we didn't at least drive the price on Sanchez, Costa, and Fabregas up is the most telling point. Each could've easily gone for another 10M and nobody would've been surprised by the fee. Considering how reasonable the fees were that our rivals paid for these players, I think that's the biggest tell that we simply weren't interested for whatever reason.

Also, are you guys talking about Liverpool, or Dagestan? You make it sound like a god forsaken nuclear wasteland or something that only fools would want to live in. Good players will go anywhere for money, don't kid yourself by this stupid hyperbolic pull that a city just a few hours away supposedly has on the heartstrings of players around the world.

My theory remains that at the start of the window, we identified Lallana as a top target, and focused all our resources on him, but still ended up paying a lot of money. And by focusing on Lallana as being the addition to our attack, we decided against pursuing Fabregas and Sanchez, even in the early stages. In the long run, I don't know if we'll be better or worse for it, but I feel that it was a short sighted approach by the people in charge of our transfers to not at the least drive the price up for our rivals, especially considering FFP is actually watching the numbers now.
 
Don't discount the fact that we are not prepared to pay salaries of 200-300k for just anyone. Suarez was the only exception - and he's one of the Top 3 players in the world.
 
Don't discount the fact that we are not prepared to pay salaries of 200-300k for just anyone. Suarez was the only exception - and he's one of the Top 3 players in the world.
At some point we're going to have to start paying those sorts of wages if we want to sign players. Perpetually signing boom or bust bargains isn't what we should be doing once we have an established quality first team.

Like I said, this is the window where we have the greatest financial resources available, ever. It's also the most crucial transfer window in recent memory where we're striving to replace Suarez and finish top 4 again.

We're going to have to start spending that sort of money as soon as next summer when the inflated UCL money starts flowing, so we might as well start now.
 
As soon as you bring one in on 200-300k they'll all want rises (look at United now). We are practising Good Housekeeping and doing well, now isn't the time, IMHO, to start going in the other direction.
 
didn't rodgers say that this would be our biggest transfer window for some time ? so we have to hope it works out . actually , i'm not having a go but rodgers has spent fuck loads now so it really has to work .
 
Yes.

We could have and should have. Like I keep saying, which nobody seems to be disagreeing with, this is the one transfer window where we've had the financial resources available to compete and beat just about any offer on the market.

The fact we didn't at least drive the price on Sanchez, Costa, and Fabregas up is the most telling point. Each could've easily gone for another 10M and nobody would've been surprised by the fee. Considering how reasonable the fees were that our rivals paid for these players, I think that's the biggest tell that we simply weren't interested for whatever reason.

Also, are you guys talking about Liverpool, or Dagestan? You make it sound like a god forsaken nuclear wasteland or something that only fools would want to live in. Good players will go anywhere for money, don't kid yourself by this stupid hyperbolic pull that a city just a few hours away supposedly has on the heartstrings of players around the world.

My theory remains that at the start of the window, we identified Lallana as a top target, and focused all our resources on him, but still ended up paying a lot of money. And by focusing on Lallana as being the addition to our attack, we decided against pursuing Fabregas and Sanchez, even in the early stages. In the long run, I don't know if we'll be better or worse for it, but I feel that it was a short sighted approach by the people in charge of our transfers to not at the least drive the price up for our rivals, especially considering FFP is actually watching the numbers now.


You make it sound like we had those players begging us to sign them and that we chose not to... You also make it sound like Liverpool is a dream city to live in for anybody, anywhere in the world, like a London or a Paris. But, even as you pretend these aren't factors, you know that they are... You know that Sanchez told Barca that he would not come to Liverpool, but rather to London. We WERE in for Sanchez - He wouldn't come. Costa has been going to Chelsea since this time last year, apparently and we don't need Fabergas... We spent money this summer, on talented players. Players who the boss thinks will suit our system better than those you mentioned. I understand that you'd have prefered the players you mention above, but don't make out like the factors / circumstances that you know to be true didn't play a part in some of the signings that we did / didn't make...
 
You make it sound like we had those players begging us to sign them and that we chose not to... You also make it sound like Liverpool is a dream city to live in for anybody, anywhere in the world, like a London or a Paris. But, even as you pretend these aren't factors, you know that they are... You know that Sanchez told Barca that he would not come to Liverpool, but rather to London. We WERE in for Sanchez - He wouldn't come. Costa has been going to Chelsea since this time last year, apparently and we don't need Fabergas... We spent money this summer, on talented players. Players who the boss thinks will suit our system better than those you mentioned. I understand that you'd have prefered the players you mention above, but don't make out like the factors / circumstances that you know to be true didn't play a part in some of the signings that we did / didn't make...

I'm not saying those players had any intention of going here initially, but I highly doubt they ruled us out as a viable option from the start. No agent would allow their players to do that. And I do agree that the big city life is a draw, but it's nowhere near the magnitude being expressed on here. Again, it's Liverpool, not Dagestan. Club location is an intangible, not a deciding factor for any aspiring star.

I've seen nothing that convinces me that we were remotely in for Sanchez apart from a few distant links, which admittedly sounded like writers were just shoehorning our name into the article to draw clicks.

As far as Costa goes, remember Mohamed Salah? He was going to us since last October/November in the January window. These things change all the time, and there's nothing to suggest that a superior offer wouldn't have worked. Again, at the very least, you make him cost Chelsea 40M and 250k/wk so they lose another 10M from their FFP allocation.

Fabregas walks into just about every first team in the world, I have no idea how we don't need him.

I'm not too upset at the players we've brought in, but we certainly could've done better looking at some of the moves our competitors have made. Rodgers is terrific at developing talent, but his transfer policy has yet to be proven as more than average. And no doubt we've been incredibly lucky so far in having our young players take a step up, which cannot be a guarantee going forward. At some point we will need to start buying top class finished products to fill our holes, and the precedent has to start somewhere.
 
Not sure about that one, mo chara... Goal scoring wasn't the problem last season.

No it wasn't.
But in my opinion we lost against Man City away and Chelsea twice because we didn't have a second major goal threat outside of Suarez with Sturridge injured or in the case of the Chelsea home game carrying an injury.
A change in any of those results would have seen us crowned champions.
Of course an alternatively valid argument could be made for better defending in other games having a similar outcome.
 
OK - we had a flop thread last season and I went with Ozil. This season I'm going to say .... Costa. He just looks so over-rated, got lucky with both his goals but faffed around, doesn't look fast and doesn't look to have a great touch either. So, he's got a 4 goals start on my prediction. Let's see.

4 goals in 3 games, after playing badly? And that's your prediction? Ballsy
 
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