A measured amount of criticism, like "he gives the ball away at times". that I can understand.
However, comparing him to world class players in order to say that he isn't scoring enough or isn't good enough that is something I have an issue with.
How can someone say something like "shit happens when Lallana is on the pitch" and then complain about Coutinho?
How can someone be dick riding Borini, pardon my french, and criticise Coutinho?
I thought that criticism was from pre December, whereas the "all he does is turn people on half way line" was pre West ham.When? The criticism and the comment Modo quoted wasn't from months ago, it was from a month ago, or more accurately, a couple of days before Coutinho set up two against West Ham. Lallana is great, I really am a big fan, but he wasn't our "most creative player", he's got three assists to his name this season. If anything, our most creative player this season has been Henderson, in terms of chances created and assists, he well outweighs both Lallana and Coutinho.
It's a daft debate, he's playing well, we all know he has the ability to be top drawer, he's not far off it, some of the criticisms have been well over board, which is why people have reacted the way they have. People don't have a problem with posters saying he can improve on this and that, that's fair game. The frustration stems from the initial comments made and the fact he's been inaccurately compared to other top players, when he actually compares favorably to many of them statistically anyway (a point ignored), and the notion that Lallana is the more creative player, who scores and creates goals. Coutinho out does him on both counts this season. Statistically over the last three years they have a similar record - Coutinho wins on assists and Lallana wins on goals, it's much of a muchness with not alot in it, but as said (and ignored/ridiculed), Coutinho is 22, Lallana is so-called "peak age".
That's very unfair. Even when playing badly, he rarely hides.
I hope as fans, we will learn never to be quick to criticize and be quick to encourage and show patience instead.
A measured amount of criticism, like "he gives the ball away at times". that I can understand.
However, comparing him to world class players in order to say that he isn't scoring enough or isn't good enough that is something I have an issue with.
How can someone say something like "shit happens when Lallana is on the pitch" and then complain about Coutinho?
How can someone be dick riding Borini, pardon my french, and criticise Coutinho?
How can someone be dick riding Borini, pardon my french, and criticise Coutinho?
Just ignore him, he's Modo who's a crinWhich suggests he did sometimes hide. I never did say he hid, but there several perfectly justified criticisms of his past form that were made, and he's now learnt from them. I think this weird WUM - 'Sherman' (who's already tanked) - needs swerving before it becomes a bit of a bore.
That's just beautiful.And don't be starting this fucking cunt you bellend when you fucking rimmed that bog eyed spacker aquilani
Which suggests he did sometimes hide. I never did say he hid, but there several perfectly justified criticisms of his past form that were made, and he's now learnt from them. I think this weird WUM - 'Sherman' (who's already tanked) - needs swerving before it becomes a bit of a bore.
I prefer it when you praise Cuteinho without slagging off Lallana.
(Bagsy Cuteinho )
Yeah It's daft.We just beat Man City and here we are arguing about something someone may have said or did not say ?
Just ignore him, he's Modo who's a crin
Yeah It's daft.
Let's get drunk.
Sherman is Cockney rhyming slang for wank.
What's a crin?
OK, I'll call your Aqua and raise you a Stewie. That's 2-1 Modo, I mean Sherman...
Lest we forget n'zogbiaYou were recommending we sign Scott Sinclair and Taraabt at various times and thought Henderson was shit that's -3 on your score
Lallana and Coutinho were both brilliant today, as was Joe Allen. I loved the comfort in possession those 3 show.
Bagsy Rodgerlings.At times his understanding with Sterling borders on telepathy.
It's beautiful to watch them Rodgerlings flourishing into world class players.
You were recommending we sign Scott Sinclair and Taraabt at various times and thought Henderson was shit that's -3 on your score
And the ability to turn a full 360 away from players with ease, the three of them were indeed brilliant today. Ably supported by Hendo's tireless running and closing, great performance. The only blot for me was Markovic again.
I can't be arsed to go through the whole thread so apologies if I'm quiffing but has Coutinho learnt English yet? I'm not sure if I've seen a post match interview with the little magician (as was the case today even though he was motm) Just wondering. Cheers.