Suarez Wow
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Not my effort but good enough for now.
I eagerly await Dreamy's next thread title after 'So pace' and Suarez wow'.
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I can't agree.
Someone who hits 20 goals in half a season can't be equated with someone who needed 12/13 shots to score a goal during one season.
Suarez is both those players.
Was it obvious he was an unorthodox and unusual talent ? Absolutely, but he was so wasteful to say he was out of this world is just ignorant.
I'm actually more interested in why he's not scoring as much in the second half in the season
And I think Sturridge is a more important player for us
Do you ever watch our games, watch our players play on the field? Or do you just look at goals scored, shooting accuracy, yada yada yada stats and make your mind up about a player?
Why are you going on about half a season and only goals scored?
Watch the player. Look at what he does. Look at what the other teams do because of that player. Look at how we get to play because of that player.
Can't agree with you Ross - moving Suarez wider to accommodate Sturridge through the centre has clearly impacted his scoring opportunities.
The fact that he's creating a lot of opportunities for other players should not be underestimated when judging his importance.
I think he's great, and I think amongst the most talented players to ever wear the red shirt (I think Kenny, Digger etc would say the same thing). Amongst the greatest ever? Let's wait and see ... it would be like calling Torres the same thing based on his few years here - and he won nothing either.
He's absolutely key to our team -
He's absolutely key to our team -
And one shot created the goal, and he had an assist. So he created 2 goals. I'm ok if he does that every game.
Suarez isn't both players, Suarez is a player who's improved from one of the best in the league, to the best in the league and one of the best in the world, simple.
In this season where he couldn't finish, as you put it, he scored 21 goals in 43 games.
The next season he got 29 goals in 39 games.
This season, 23 goals in 25 games.
This is clearly evidence of him improving as he gets more used to the league, the team improves and he improves, not that he's having a purple streak as you seem to be implying, or that he's two players, he's just got better, simple. Mind boggling how far you'll try and push your Suarez agenda really, can't you just be happy we have one of the best strikers in the world and appreciate that?
He's not the only striker to miss chances either. The attacking prowess he possesses affords him more chances per game, and as many have pointed out to Ross, he creates many of those chances himself. That's different to being a poacher, where the touch and finish is basically your game. He'll pick it up deep, play it and run onto it, or take a few players on and have a crack, or score a freekick, or be on the end of a tap in, or bury a header. He scores all sorts of goals, and inevitably from his starting positions, he'll occasionally run out of steam when he gets in on goal. There's a whole, wide range to his game that you have to consider, which makes it impossible to say that he needs "X amount of chances" to score, because his game is all about energy and intensity, so of course he's going to fluff a few. The fact he's involved in more chances per game than anyone else speaks volumes.
Ross made this assertion when he was suspended, that Sturridge is more important. Suarez came back and was banging them in.
6 shots actually, 4 of which were from at least 30 yards out and one from an acute angle that the keeper saved. Not one of them a clear cut chance apart from the one on one saved from an acute angle. Hardly great goal scoring chances missed really.
You mean the shot that set up Henderson's goal was a bad shot? Ok.
I am happy with a low percentage shot if it creates the game winning goal. Are you?
so a striker should never shoot from outside the box?
I love it when strikers shoot from outside the box..... Really..... Love it!...
Christ Ross, don't know how and why you do it. Why bother positioning yourself in a camp so extreme that you find yourself niggling at Suarez, scouring the net for stats to try create an angle for yourself to put him down. I wouldn't have the energy for it.
Suarez is a marvellous player. I love watching him. I've no desire at all to needlessly bash him.
Suarez is a marvellous player. I love watching him. I've no desire at all to needlessly bash him.
I don't think it's that simple. Ideally yes, you'd want to always only shoot from the best positions, but if you're playing a game and are unlikely to get into a position where you will have a high percentage shot, you're better off trying a lot of low percentage shots. Especially if you've got someone as good at them as Suarez is.
Thanks Cloggypop.
Really really low percentage shot that - he should NEVER have had a pop from there (nor the one from the halfway line also vs Norwich) we seriously don't need those memories.
I like this crap video for the family's reactions 🙂
http://uk.video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=Suarez goal from halfway line&vid=073faa7848bef90a66459d299c77ce81&l=1:05&turl=http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=VN.608033215868964338&pid=15.1&rurl=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkVYp-o7V-U&tit=Liverpool Suarez 3rd goal half way line&c=2&sigr=11ahnmf6o&sigt=117vkpc0r&back=http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&p=Suarez+goal+from+halfway+line&fr=crmas&sigb=12j2kgrsq&ct=p&age=0&&tt=b
Really really low percentage shot that - he should NEVER have had a pop from there (nor the one from the halfway line also vs Norwich) we seriously don't need those memories.
I like this crap video for the family's reactions 🙂
http://uk.video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=Suarez goal from halfway line&vid=073faa7848bef90a66459d299c77ce81&l=1:05&turl=http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=VN.608033215868964338&pid=15.1&rurl=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkVYp-o7V-U&tit=Liverpool Suarez 3rd goal half way line&c=2&sigr=11ahnmf6o&sigt=117vkpc0r&back=http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&p=Suarez+goal+from+halfway+line&fr=crmas&sigb=12j2kgrsq&ct=p&age=0&&tt=b
The only purpose this thread serves is to show how pointless stats can be in football, and how easily they can be manipulated to show just about anything. Sure, the table doesn't lie, and some stats are important, but my god sometimes they lead people to not be able to see the wood for the trees.
Like the ones against Norwich that came off? He gets alot of low percentage shots right, which equals an awesome goal that very few players can actually pull off. It's what separates him from the rest.
"Proving his early season form us unsustainable". Did you watch Gerrard throughout his career in all the intermittent games where his 30 yard shots didn't always come off? It's human nature. It's a fantasy to think there are any players out there who are infallible, even Messi and Ronaldo (and the fact they're regularly mentioned in the same breath as Suarez speaks volumes).
So let me get this straight, a spell of indifferent form proves his best form isn't the norm? Even though the majority of the time he's potent and a threat? Are you having a FUCKING LAUGH?
ahhh.. that would be one of those "low percentage" ones he shouldn't try. The mark of a player who isn't quite as good as everyone reckons.
Statistically the average person has less than 2 legs.
So Rudd was the perfect striker?
Only 1 goal from outside the 18 yard box.
Only 1 goal from outside the 18 yard box.
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