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Sell 3 Players!!

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If you could only sell 3 players this Jan window, who would they be:

Mine:
1. Dossena
2. Babel
3. Skrtel

I reckon we won't miss any of the above, while still generating pretty good sum to fund for purchase.
 
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=37547.msg1002481#msg1002481 date=1259588270]
Voronin and Dossena has got to go.
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We have a poster called Voronin?
 
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002479#msg1002479 date=1259588201]
You would sell Skrtel and keep Lucas!!
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Lucas is an average cm. Skrtel is a woeful defender. So naturally..
 
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37547.msg1002483#msg1002483 date=1259588327]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002479#msg1002479 date=1259588201]
You would sell Skrtel and keep Lucas!!
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Lucas is an average cm. Skrtel is a woeful defender. So naturally..

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Skrtel is a good defender and Lucas is beyond woeful, apart from that you are correct.
 
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002484#msg1002484 date=1259588488]
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37547.msg1002483#msg1002483 date=1259588327]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002479#msg1002479 date=1259588201]
You would sell Skrtel and keep Lucas!!
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Lucas is an average cm. Skrtel is a woeful defender. So naturally..

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Skrtel is a good defender and Lucas is beyond woeful, apart from that you are correct.
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Lol @ ^^^

Skrtel is useless. He's rash, stupid, all over the place, can't play with our best defender (cos he's too similar *pukes*), cost us points..

Lucas is no where near as offensive as Skrtel. He's a nothing special central midfielder who don't make too many errors. He'd make a very useful cover.
 
What a strange thread. You make it sound like everyone wants to have a massive clearout in January and only having to pick 3 to go is a problem.

Obviously it rather depends on why we would be selling doesn't it? If we are trying to fund a new striker then it makes sense getting rid of the players who will raise the most and also wouldn't be needed, so Babel and Voronin might as well both join Dossena, who is a given.

If we are not buying anyone, and selling just to trim the wage bill or something then I'd probably keep Babel and get rid of Degen

Choosing to get rid of Skrtel is just stupid really.
 
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37547.msg1002495#msg1002495 date=1259589025]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002484#msg1002484 date=1259588488]
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37547.msg1002483#msg1002483 date=1259588327]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002479#msg1002479 date=1259588201]
You would sell Skrtel and keep Lucas!!
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Lucas is an average cm. Skrtel is a woeful defender. So naturally..

[/quote]

Skrtel is a good defender and Lucas is beyond woeful, apart from that you are correct.
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Lol @ ^^^

Skrtel is useless. He's rash, stupid, all over the place, can't play with our best defender (cos he's too similar *pukes*), cost us points..

Lucas is no where near as offensive as Skrtel. He's a nothing special central midfielder who don't make too many errors. He'd make a very useful cover.
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Skrtel played with our best defender last season and did exceptionally well, we almost won the league remember? The defence itself, regardless of personnel, has looked a shambles all season, we were lucky not to concede a couple yesterday through slack marking.
 
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37547.msg1002495#msg1002495 date=1259589025]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002484#msg1002484 date=1259588488]
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37547.msg1002483#msg1002483 date=1259588327]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002479#msg1002479 date=1259588201]
You would sell Skrtel and keep Lucas!!
[/quote]
Lucas is an average cm. Skrtel is a woeful defender. So naturally..

[/quote]

Skrtel is a good defender and Lucas is beyond woeful, apart from that you are correct.
[/quote]
Lol @ ^^^

Skrtel is useless. He's rash, stupid, all over the place, can't play with our best defender (cos he's too similar *pukes*), cost us points..

Lucas is no where near as offensive as Skrtel. He's a nothing special central midfielder who don't make too many errors. He'd make a very useful cover.
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The only valid point you make is that Carra and Skrtel are similar in style and should not play together as first choice. The fact that he played an integral role for the Slovaks as they topped a tough World Cup group ahead of Poland and Czech Republic belies your theory that he's useless.

Lucas is shite, total shite, beyond shite even and if you can't see it then there is little point taking this debate further because IMO your evaluation of players is shite.
 
Don't agree about Insua but I'd sell whichever three from Dosser, Voronin, Lucas and Babel we can make most money from.

As for Skrtel, we'd only have to wait until the next time Agger gets crocked to find out just how lunatic the idea of selling Skrtel really is.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=37547.msg1002508#msg1002508 date=1259589652]
I forgot Drossena, for obvious reasons

Lucas, Insua, Dross, sell all three useless twats
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The only issue there would be leaving Aurelio and his brittle legs and an untested Martin Kelly as our only players capable of playing there. Lucas and Dossena leaving in Jan would make me delighted.
 
I''d sooner see Voronin go than Insua. At least the Argentine has youth on his side or as an excuse, depends how you see it.

Voronin dislikes the club, the city and the fans. Plus he really is fucking shit.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37547.msg1002512#msg1002512 date=1259590011]
I''d sooner see Voronin go than Insua. At least the Argentine has youth on his side or as an excuse, depends how you see it.

Voronin dislikes the club, the city and the fans. Plus he really is fucking shit.


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I left Voronin out due to the fact he'd raise no funds.
 
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=37547.msg1002514#msg1002514 date=1259590140]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37547.msg1002512#msg1002512 date=1259590011]
I''d sooner see Voronin go than Insua. At least the Argentine has youth on his side or as an excuse, depends how you see it.

Voronin dislikes the club, the city and the fans. Plus he really is fucking shit.


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I left Voronin out due to the fact he'd raise no funds.
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You never know. He managed to do well in Germany so we might get something from him from someone over there, especially if the club concerned has a number of injuries to cope with.
 
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[quote author=dossena link=topic=37547.msg1002495#msg1002495 date=1259589025]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002484#msg1002484 date=1259588488]
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37547.msg1002483#msg1002483 date=1259588327]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002479#msg1002479 date=1259588201]
You would sell Skrtel and keep Lucas!!
[/quote]
Lucas is an average cm. Skrtel is a woeful defender. So naturally..

[/quote]

Skrtel is a good defender and Lucas is beyond woeful, apart from that you are correct.
[/quote]
Lol @ ^^^

Skrtel is useless. He's rash, stupid, all over the place, can't play with our best defender (cos he's too similar *pukes*), cost us points..

Lucas is no where near as offensive as Skrtel. He's a nothing special central midfielder who don't make too many errors. He'd make a very useful cover.
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The only valid point you make is that Carra and Skrtel are similar in style and should not play together as first choice. The fact that he played an integral role for the Slovaks as they topped a tough World Cup group ahead of Poland and Czech Republic belies your theory that he's useless.

Lucas is shite, total shite, beyond shite even and if you can't see it then there is little point taking this debate further because IMO your evaluation of players is shite.
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Who cares? Diomede won the world cup, remember?

Lucas is a lot less useless for our team than Skrtel is. Skrtel makes at least one mistake a game. His positioning is woeful, he was the reason that we conceded both goals against Man City. It's no coincidence that Carra looks much happier playing next to Agger.
 
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=37547.msg1002514#msg1002514 date=1259590140]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37547.msg1002512#msg1002512 date=1259590011]
I''d sooner see Voronin go than Insua. At least the Argentine has youth on his side or as an excuse, depends how you see it.

Voronin dislikes the club, the city and the fans. Plus he really is fucking shit.


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I left Voronin out due to the fact he'd raise no funds.
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Same.

I'd release him instead.
 
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37547.msg1002524#msg1002524 date=1259590340]
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[quote author=dossena link=topic=37547.msg1002495#msg1002495 date=1259589025]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002484#msg1002484 date=1259588488]
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37547.msg1002483#msg1002483 date=1259588327]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002479#msg1002479 date=1259588201]
You would sell Skrtel and keep Lucas!!
[/quote]
Lucas is an average cm. Skrtel is a woeful defender. So naturally..

[/quote]

Skrtel is a good defender and Lucas is beyond woeful, apart from that you are correct.
[/quote]
Lol @ ^^^

Skrtel is useless. He's rash, stupid, all over the place, can't play with our best defender (cos he's too similar *pukes*), cost us points..

Lucas is no where near as offensive as Skrtel. He's a nothing special central midfielder who don't make too many errors. He'd make a very useful cover.
[/quote]

The only valid point you make is that Carra and Skrtel are similar in style and should not play together as first choice. The fact that he played an integral role for the Slovaks as they topped a tough World Cup group ahead of Poland and Czech Republic belies your theory that he's useless.

Lucas is shite, total shite, beyond shite even and if you can't see it then there is little point taking this debate further because IMO your evaluation of players is shite.
[/quote]
Who cares? Diomede won the world cup, remember?

Lucas is a lot less useless for our team than Skrtel is. Skrtel makes at least one mistake a game. His positioning is woeful, he was the reason that we conceded both goals against Man City. It's no coincidence that Carra looks much happier playing next to Agger.
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What a load of crap you just posted. Firstly, I said Skrtel played an integral role for the Slovaks and you respond with Diomede? Please tell me how many game Diomede played during France's world cup success.

Skrtel was poor against City but Gerrard was poor yesterday and that doesn't make him shit.

Everyone who has posted on this thread bar you has suggested Lucas and nobody else has mentioned Skrtel, does that not tell you anything?
 
[quote author=Momo link=topic=37547.msg1002515#msg1002515 date=1259590185]
Gerrard
Torres
Reina
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Dossena's real list.
 
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[quote author=dossena link=topic=37547.msg1002495#msg1002495 date=1259589025]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002484#msg1002484 date=1259588488]
[quote author=dossena link=topic=37547.msg1002483#msg1002483 date=1259588327]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=37547.msg1002479#msg1002479 date=1259588201]
You would sell Skrtel and keep Lucas!!
[/quote]
Lucas is an average cm. Skrtel is a woeful defender. So naturally..

[/quote]

Skrtel is a good defender and Lucas is beyond woeful, apart from that you are correct.
[/quote]
Lol @ ^^^

Skrtel is useless. He's rash, stupid, all over the place, can't play with our best defender (cos he's too similar *pukes*), cost us points..

Lucas is no where near as offensive as Skrtel. He's a nothing special central midfielder who don't make too many errors. He'd make a very useful cover.
[/quote]

The only valid point you make is that Carra and Skrtel are similar in style and should not play together as first choice. The fact that he played an integral role for the Slovaks as they topped a tough World Cup group ahead of Poland and Czech Republic belies your theory that he's useless.

Lucas is shite, total shite, beyond shite even and if you can't see it then there is little point taking this debate further because IMO your evaluation of players is shite.
[/quote]
Who cares? Diomede won the world cup, remember?

Lucas is a lot less useless for our team than Skrtel is. Skrtel makes at least one mistake a game. His positioning is woeful, he was the reason that we conceded both goals against Man City. It's no coincidence that Carra looks much happier playing next to Agger.
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Our defence with Skrtel in it was a whisker away from last season's title, and no-one becomes a bad player over the course of a summer. It would be equally easy to point to mistakes from other players in other games this season - they've all made them, Agger included. I forget who it was who said that the man who doesn't make a mistake can't make anything, but that's essentially Lucas' problem. It takes all he's got to avoid mistakes, and even then he doesn't always manage it.
 
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[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=37547.msg1002514#msg1002514 date=1259590140]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37547.msg1002512#msg1002512 date=1259590011]
I''d sooner see Voronin go than Insua. At least the Argentine has youth on his side or as an excuse, depends how you see it.

Voronin dislikes the club, the city and the fans. Plus he really is fucking shit.


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I left Voronin out due to the fact he'd raise no funds.
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You never know. He managed to do well in Germany so we might get something from him from someone over there, especially if the club concerned has a number of injuries to cope with.
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I reckon we could get around the £2M mark for Voro-neen. It would be a real bargain.

For us.

The only way I could be tempted to let Skrtel fly was if we were to snap up someone having a few more of the attributes Sami brought to the table. We really need a powerful defender capable of winning headers against the best (and strongest) opponents.
 
Personally I don't see the point in selling Lucas to be honest (unless someone would actually pay more than just a few pounds for him which I doubt).

He's going to be a useful back-up I reckon.
 
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